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Posted: 16 August 2012 at 3:59pm | IP Logged
Anu, lol. I'm rewatching ep 3 now too, if it helps LOL

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Posted: 16 August 2012 at 4:05pm | IP Logged
lol Sherlock was awesome but the episodes were SUPER LONG. But i loved that series.
I saw a couple of episodes of The Newsroom when it premiered but haven't had the time to catch up on the rest. I might finish that after I'm done with Suits and before Merlin season 5 starts.
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Posted: 16 August 2012 at 4:05pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by psawyer

@bold - very true. In fact, I never thought of it that way. I always thought that Jessica knew all about Harvey. In some ways, she does - she knew about his attachment to his father; knew about Donna, and about the DA. But these are things that I think Harvey was willing to share with her, and vice versa for him. 

It's like how most people have a work 'family' - a 'husband', a 'mother' etc. You know SO much about these people in the working sphere, and bits and pieces of their personal lives. You have a kind of history together, where you've come up through the trenches. But ultimately, when it comes down to it, you know very little about them outside of work.

With someone like Harvey, whose life is work, it's even more interesting that he stays so closed up and maintains such a facade. Nobody knows him, really. Donna probably knows him better than anyone (but then that's because she listens in on his convos LOL), but even with her there are areas that she cannot cross. 

As for where Jessica & Harvey met - yes, I want to know too. If she found him worthy enough not only to mentor him but to put him through law school and basically foster him...where did they meet and what on earth did she see in him? Maybe he was part of one of her pro bono cases? She seems so strict about doing pro bono...

P.S. I really loved how they scripted that mock trial - on one level it was about saving Harvey and asking all the hard questions that Tanner would undoubtedly ask. On another level, each character had a hidden agenda, a thread in their questions and answers that ran deeper than the surface. Each history was picked at, each incident was remembered and coloured the trial. 

Word @ bold! That's exactly it, isn't it...history, and working up the trenches...you know, I think Jessica and Harvey bond as well on another level because they recognize how hard it is/was for both of them to get where they are now...Jessica being the 'black woman' with her name on the door in Manhattan...and Harvey a screw up...maybe that's where they come to mutually care so much about each other, watch out for each other, have that loyalty, and underlying it all, have a very basic respect...unsaid (sometimes said LOL) appreciation for each other too. 

@blue: Harvey must have shown her some of his bravado LOL Pulled off some 'playing the man' shtick while she was watching LOL Talking of pro bono and Jessica...it's an interesting contrast...there's two possibilities, the more surface level one being of course that she cares about the 'image' of the firm, their reputation, and we know this is a woman who'll do anything for it, so she's strict in seeing a follow through on pro bono cases. The other of course harking back to the point about roots...Jessica's roots and where she's made it too...maybe she feels doing something like this is a tie back to the community, to doing something for people so that they may have a chance at something good in life too. 

And the mock trial...couldn't agree more with you on that. It was my favourite episode of the entire show besides the last two episodes of Season 1. Perfectly done.

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Posted: 16 August 2012 at 4:19pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by kabeeraspeaking


@blue: Harvey must have shown her some of his bravado LOL Pulled off some 'playing the man' shtick while she was watching LOL Talking of pro bono and Jessica...it's an interesting contrast...there's two possibilities, the more surface level one being of course that she cares about the 'image' of the firm, their reputation, and we know this is a woman who'll do anything for it, so she's strict in seeing a follow through on pro bono cases. The other of course harking back to the point about roots...Jessica's roots and where she's made it too...maybe she feels doing something like this is a tie back to the community, to doing something for people so that they may have a chance at something good in life too. 


You're right about that roots thing. Remember that ep with that lady who was building houses for the poor? She was one of Jessica's friends, and a proper example of 'the little guy' being downtrodden by the corporates. Jessica's concern for her was genuine, and it wasn't just about winning. 

What Jessica said about being 'the black woman' with her name on the door...it was definitely a struggle for her. She came up from the bottom, sometimes being given a helping hand (Daniel), sometimes pushing people out of the way (the woman she was at college with who was going for the same job). 

All of this means that while she has to toe the line in many ways - keeping money coming into the firm - she shows her softness elsewhere. She keeps Harvey on because of their past, whatever it may be - despite the fact that at times he's done things that would have him fired anywhere else. She appreciates & respects Donna (even though she fired her) because of her loyalty to Harvey, and, consequently, to the firm. In fact, that's it - Jessica values loyalty. Harvey's to Mike, Donna's to Harvey, Harvey's to her, and her own to Daniel. When loyalty wavers, it hurts her. But when you are loyal to her, she will fight for you until the end. 

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Posted: 16 August 2012 at 4:32pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by psawyer

You're right about that roots thing. Remember that ep with that lady who was building houses for the poor? She was one of Jessica's friends, and a proper example of 'the little guy' being downtrodden by the corporates. Jessica's concern for her was genuine, and it wasn't just about winning.

Oh yeah! Remember that other friend of Jessica's too...the one who was embezzling from the firm by making shell companies...I liked seeing Ella Follman too...Jessica's interaction with her acquaintances, colleagues, it's all very interesting...especially more so because of the same idea that we don't know much about these characters personally...and the more you see them interact with different people, the more of them comes out into the open. 

So Vas, while we wait for the next episode to air...tell, what is your favourite characters line up LOL Me:

Harvey
Louis/Jessica
Mike/Donna
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That creepy lady with the dolls and tea parties that Mike goes to meet in S1 LOL

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Posted: 16 August 2012 at 4:33pm | IP Logged
I finally figured out who Louis reminds me of...The Grinch!LOL...those giant teeth of his each time he grins...TOTALLY grinch-like! haha

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Posted: 16 August 2012 at 4:39pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by AreYaar

I finally figured out who Louis reminds me of...The Grinch!LOL...those giant teeth of his each time he grins...TOTALLY grinch-like! haha

He's very Grinch-like in his ability and efforts to suck away any joy from Pearson Hardman and it's employees too LOL I realized only recently that Rick Hoffman has gained weight this season...now that I look back, he seems meaner in the pilot of S1 than I remember LOL

Sharing something cute with everyone...this is back around the earlier part of S2...you can see PJA there, and then Sarah and Gina with their kids (aw!)...Gabriel's daughter is on the stairs too. Sweet cast they are, hm!



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Posted: 16 August 2012 at 4:41pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by kabeeraspeaking

Originally posted by psawyer

You're right about that roots thing. Remember that ep with that lady who was building houses for the poor? She was one of Jessica's friends, and a proper example of 'the little guy' being downtrodden by the corporates. Jessica's concern for her was genuine, and it wasn't just about winning.

Oh yeah! Remember that other friend of Jessica's too...the one who was embezzling from the firm by making shell companies...I liked seeing Ella Follman too...Jessica's interaction with her acquaintances, colleagues, it's all very interesting...especially more so because of the same idea that we don't know much about these characters personally...and the more you see them interact with different people, the more of them comes out into the open. 

So Vas, while we wait for the next episode to air...tell, what is your favourite characters line up LOL Me:

Harvey
Louis/Jessica
Mike/Donna
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.
.
.
.
.
.
.
.
That creepy lady with the dolls and tea parties that Mike goes to meet in S1 LOL

@bold - so true! Like every time Harvey/Donna talk, they say something that makes us go whaaa??? LOL a snippet of history that we know nothing about, but are desperate for. I love shows like that  - where not everything is out in the open and obvious. 


Lol, who comes in between Mike/Donna and that creepy doll lady? LOL

My faves:

- Harvey
- Donna/Jessica
- Mike/Louis
- Rachel
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-Zoe
- Scotty (that lawyer friend of Harvey's LOL)
 

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