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ok sabeeha ...i did not go through all the posts but here is what goes by my understanding

i think...the doctors in Mumbai did a special chemotherapy called the Intrathecal Chemotherapy where they send the chemotherapy drug into the spinal canal  (not sure though as the show never had any details about cancer)

here is the link to it...
http://www.webmd.com/cancer/tc/leukemia-treatment-overview

A different way of giving chemotherapy, called intrathecal chemotherapy, treats these areas by injecting the drugs directly into your spinal canal to attack any leukemia cells there.

now whatever happened in Mumbai is a type of treatment which Maanvi's body could not endure...
which is entirely different from bone-marrow transplantation...(so the subtitles are wrong )




and what they mean by Maanvii's cancer spreading is that the cancer cells are attacking or infecting other organs in the body .,..

for that they need to administer a very high dose chemotherapy which can kill all cancer cells..along with cancer cells it also kills all the stem cells which help in blood formation..

in order for the patient to get the stem cells back in the body so that the body can produce the new blood.. bone marrow transplantation used to be done in the past .. now the marrow tissue is not transplanted.. instead the stem cells available in the regular blood are filtered and given to the patient, while the remaining blood (RBCs, WBCs and platelets) are given back to the donor.. meaning only stem cells are taken from the donor ..not the whole blood ..


these stem cells make their way through an undiscovered route (even the scientists are not sure of the route taken by stem cells to the marrow tissue) and go and plant themselves in the marrow tissue..there by permanently producing new stem cells which form new blood

now these stem cells which are collected from the peripheral blood of another person (whose HLA in the stem cell has to match the HLA of the patient) are called the peripheral blood stem cells (PBSC)

this transplantation has to be immediately done following a high dose chemotherapy ..and within 4-6 weeks the person will be able to get new blood which is free of any cancer cell...

so these days they are not doing any actual marrow tissue transplantation .,. which needs a surgery in the pelvic bone..It is simple as blood transmission ..



Edited by munnihyderabad - 11 years ago

Originally posted by: zunairawaseem

😊😊Bone marrow treatment means stem cell transplant, you can take stem cell from bone marrow, peripheral blood or umblical cord and in case if taken from bone marrow it is called as bone marrow transplant... there r many pre tests for bone marrow transplant including bone marrow biopsy to evaluate the status of disease and if bonemarrow transplant could be carried out in the patient or not without much complications...

I think in the serial they have shown the bone marrow biopsy and after that doctor said that her body is not fit for bone marrow transplant (which means bone marrow transplant can lead to fatal complications in manvi's case)

Bone marrow transplant was used more than chemotherapy in the past but nowadays chemotherapy is preferred due to high mortality rate of bone marrow transplant.. BMT is used nowadays for those who r unresponsive to chemotherapy.

But as this a serial and ofcourse cv's have to raise their trp so thats why they showed that manvi's body is not fit for BMT...(moreover history proves that more the emotional drama, more will be the TRP😳) Yes its a little bit awkward that sometime they r showing manvi dancing in the rain and sometimes she cant even walk, but atleast they have tried to mention that there come a point in the life of a cancer patient where he thought he is becoming better but in reality its an indication of disease progressing even more(and it happens really)

At least they are not showing crap like other serials in which patient's cancer is always in last stage, one or two months to survive only and then all of a sudden by miracle patient gets cured😉

atleast they are showing cancer increasing progressively and reaching to its height...

maybe in the future track there could be a call from dr.bhradwaj (mumbai doctor) claiming about the new research or something related to it🥱 but watever it would be we have to remember one thing that its a serial, not a cancer documentary film,  look at the positive aspects that they have shown much reality about cancer such as manvi going bald due to chemotherapy, lumber puncture, body pain etc,etc

and one thing more they havent used the word bone marrow treatment, dont know that consciously or not but yes they havent used the tern BMT😊

Originally posted by: rainbow_251

i didnt get it either it was so forced and fake😆 plus had such an abrupt end too; breaks up with her in one episode realizes his real love is manvi in the next😆 i hate it when CVs adapt their jet speed pace for VirMan👎🏼 ruins the show for me at times👎🏼

🤣🤣 @ bold😛 even i dont get why they hell they're in such a hurry😕 the roka was on friday and the got engaged on wednesday with engagement starting on tuesday WTH😕 would it kill them to slow down a bit😕

🤣🤣yeah now i can also safely say they'll be VirMan only and not other people's clones after marriage😃 first duo ive seen dancing so enthusiastically that too so closely on their engagement with every else watching🤣🤣 found it endearingly cute for some reason❤️😆

regarding rain scene; i wanted one too; never requested for it on MP but did want it; yet  i seriously though CVs would have the sense to add one in after she gets better not when she has cancer😆 i couldnt digest it at all. Though the scene was great; the whole W*F is she doing in the rain she'll get ill was always there at the back of my mind😆 was even more disappointed when nothing happened to her. Get real please CVs Nia got a cold while shooting that scene and and Manvi a cancer patient was completely fit and fine😕🤣🤣

Originally posted by: munnihyderabad

ok i did not go through all the posts but here is what goes by my understanding

i think...the doctors in Mumbai did a special chemotherapy called the Intrathecal Chemotherapy where they send the chemotherapy drug into the spinal canal  (not sure though as the show never had any details about cancer)

here is the link to it...
http://www.webmd.com/cancer/tc/leukemia-treatment-overview

A different way of giving chemotherapy, called intrathecal chemotherapy, treats these areas by injecting the drugs directly into your spinal canal to attack any leukemia cells there.

now whatever happened in Mumbai is a type of treatment which Maanvi's body could not endure...
which is entirely different from bone-marrow transplantation...(so the subtitles are wrong )




and what they mean by Maanvii's cancer spreading is that the cancer cells are attacking or infecting other organs in the body .,..

for that they need to administer a very high dose chemotherapy which can kill all cancer cells..along with cancer cells it also kills all the stem cells which help in blood formation..

in order for the patient to get the stem cells back in the body so that the body can produce the new blood.. bone marrow transplantation used to be done in the past .. now the marrow tissue is not transplanted.. instead the stem cells available in the regular blood are filtered and given to the patient, while the remaining blood (RBCs, WBCs and platelets) are given back to the donor.. meaning only stem cells are taken from the donor ..not the whole blood ..


these stem cells make their way through an undiscovered route (even the scientists are not sure of the route taken by stem cells to the marrow tissue) and go and plant themselves in the marrow tissue..there by permanently producing new stem cells which form new blood

now these stem cells which are collected from the peripheral blood of another person (whose HLA in the stem cell has to match the HLA of the patient) are called the peripheral blood stem cells (PBSC)

this transplantation has to be immediately done following a high dose chemotherapy ..and within 4-6 weeks the person will be able to get new blood which is free of any cancer cell...

so these days they are not doing any actual marrow tissue transplantation .,. which needs a surgery in the pelvic bone..It is simple as blood transmission ..

Originally posted by: zunairawaseem

😊😊Bone marrow treatment means stem cell transplant, you can take stem cell from bone marrow, peripheral blood or umblical cord and in case if taken from bone marrow it is called as bone marrow transplant... there r many pre tests for bone marrow transplant including bone marrow biopsy to evaluate the status of disease and if bonemarrow transplant could be carried out in the patient or not without much complications...

I think in the serial they have shown the bone marrow biopsy and after that doctor said that her body is not fit for bone marrow transplant (which means bone marrow transplant can lead to fatal complications in manvi's case)

Bone marrow transplant was used more than chemotherapy in the past but nowadays chemotherapy is preferred due to high mortality rate of bone marrow transplant.. BMT is used nowadays for those who r unresponsive to chemotherapy.

                         But as this a serial and ofcourse cv's have to raise their trp so thats why they showed that manvi's body is not fit for BMT...(moreover history proves that more the emotional drama, more will be the TRP😳) Yes its a little bit awkward that sometime they r showing manvi dancing in the rain and sometimes she cant even walk, but atleast they have tried to mention that there come a point in the life of a cancer patient where he thought he is becoming better but in reality its an indication of disease progressing even more(and it happens really)

At least they are not showing crap like other serials in which patient's cancer is always in last stage, one or two months to survive only and then all of a sudden by miracle patient gets cured😉

atleast they are showing cancer increasing progressively and reaching to its height...

maybe in the future track there could be a call from dr.bhradwaj (mumbai doctor) claiming about the new research or something related to it🥱 but watever it would be we have to remember one thing that its a serial, not a cancer documentary film,  look at the positive aspects that they have shown much reality about cancer such as manvi going bald due to chemotherapy, lumber puncture, body pain etc,etc

        and one thing more they havent used the word bone marrow treatment, dont know that consciously or not but yes they havent used the tern BMT😊

Edited by Nivluvsvirman - 11 years ago

yeah intrathecal chemotherapy is given through spinal cord but its for acute leukemias, in manvi's case they have mentioned that she is suffering from chronic myeloid leukemia, in which two mostly used treatments are chemotherapy and BMT...

oh yes again a confusion, i think they havent done lumber puncture, i think it was bone marrow biopsy, as lumber puncture is different, there you have to remove the csf to check any abnormality in it... and they have used the term "reerh ki haddi", so thats a vertibral column so its a little bit confusing... and the posture in lumbure puncture is little bit different from that shown in the serial, so i think it was bone marrow biopsy😉 Edited by zunairawaseem - 11 years ago

Edited by zunairawaseem - 11 years ago

Originally posted by: Nivluvsvirman

First a big Thank you Zunaira for replying here for me🤗Oh and you explained it very well😊 and yes they didn't mention BMT till nw in the serial but one doubt lumbar puncture is done for what? To see whether cancer has spread to CNS or to check that particular treatment (in which Mumbai hospital is specialized in) is suitable for Maanvi's cancer or both? i am not able to grasp it😕 As u said yes there are scenes which CVs took efforts to show in this soap but u noe what when they show scenes which are realistic and also potrayed very well by actors (Nia in lumbar puncture scenes) we audience tend to expect more from CVs. Hence more disappointment felt when they neglected Cancer after bald track😒 Well the Cancer is coming back so no complains nw...😊

@ bold : yes i was very much in doubt abt this scene but as a viewer Virat's explanation was convincing and after that epi I heard fans saying that it happens in reality so good for CVs 😊 Dunno whether they decided this first only or used it as escape reason since they neglected for 2-3 weeks (in serial world) Maanvi's cancer😉😆

I again read my comment above and came to noe that i am again asking u more qts 😆

Originally posted by: zunairawaseem

oh yes again a confusion, i think they havent done lumber puncture, i think it was bone marrow biopsy, as lumber puncture is different, there you have to remove the csf to check any abnormality in it... and they have used the term "reerh ki haddi", so thats a vertibral column so its a little bit confusing... and the posture in lumbure puncture is little bit different from that shown in the serial, so i think it was bone marrow biopsy😉

@ Bold but spinal cord is protected by vertebral column and CSF is present in spinal cord so why not lumbar puncture?!😕 U may be rite 😊