Originally posted by: renukha871
i'm sorry for the intervention as this post is meant for someone else...but since this is aditya-sugni post i can't refrain myself from commenting...
My POV is that if a man does not have the right values to treat you with respect on first meeting, no matter how you may one day feel you have discovered love, one day that same disrespectful person will come out again, maybe in the worse way. How many times have you heard "I saw the signs in the beginning?"
The "man" you mentioned could be in general but i'm sure it includes Aditya as well.....
Aditya is actually a nice guy...It's just that the whole bediya issue in the past brings out the ugliness in him and he turns him into a jerk a most of the time with sugni...no one is perfect and there's definetly no such thing as perfect relationship...that's what aditya is...he's just imperfect and to me that's what makes the character so human...so, if somehow later aditya and sugni develop feelings for each other I'm sure aditya will change...because people change and maybe sugni is the who one changes and heals him...and even if they caught in an arguement,,,,well like i said no relationship is perfect...those mistakes and arguments will teach them more about each other and they could grow together...
Well obviously I was speaking generally, and Aditya was included, that is what the post is about.
So, because the Cvs showed some sort of prospect in Aditya playing with words about how Bednis should be respected, you really feel that Aditya's original behaviour is that of a decent guy? So, with excuses of his past, you justify cursing out a girl on more than one occasion, and pushing her out of your Uncle's house acceptable? So, because of what a Bedni did to his family, he must disrespect women? In case you do not remember he is not respectful to Amrita either.
Adi and Sugni had no small argument, their arguments were huge.
Yes and he had concrete reasons to behave that way...and their arguments to me wasn't just petty ones...to me I saw it as a potential hate love track ...(i might be a little sadistic)
It is very sadistic and if you were my daughter and found that behaviour normal and justifiable I would be very concerned to let you out of my sight. No offense.
Aditya spoke to Sugni like she was nothing on first meeting, even Sugni who is fearless, was scared after. Dragging a girl, no matter who she is, to throw her out of your house, is the worse kind of insult for a man to do to a woman. I was brought up in a society where that is considered Physical Abuse. Also, the way in which he used to curse her, is considered Verbal Abuse. Any sort of abuse is wrong whether man to a woman or woman to man.
Vikram and Sugni showed a different appeal to romance that is actually very common around the world.
Another reason why i ship aditya and sugni over TVS and sugni...they were just plain boring to me...zero chemistry too.
Well seeing chemistry with either Jodis or not seeing any chemistry is very subjective, so let us not go there. I am happy you see this, I don't.
It is not deeming or weak for a woman, to have a man have that impact on your life. It is very liberating contrary to belief. it is called Partnership. I bring out the best in you, you bring out the best in me.
Yes indeed TVS has helped her and supported her and he does have huge impact on her...
but somehow it's just a one way street relationship since he's the one who's giving and she's just receiving...what does she give in return? other than love...he doesn't need to be her life partner to give all those support and encouragement..it could even be as an uncle or from a father image...
yes he brought out the best in sugni but sugni brought out the worst in him...he cheated her, so obsessed with her that he wanted to commit suicide just because she's breaking up with him...to me she makes him weak...
There is no where in my statement that I said someone needs to be your life partner to provide all that support, I said nothing is wrong if the person who happen to support and encourage you is your life partner. Completely different statements.
I said this because and I used the word liberating (for the women who feel liberation can only come from self), because many persons, feel that Sugni does not need a man to help her move forward in life, so I am saying in my POV, that she may not need it, but nothing is wrong if that is the way she will get that extra push to move forward in life, from being a Bedni.
I don't know if you know the famous Canadian singer Celine Dion(not to stray from the point), but her husband is older than her, and he was her Manager before they got together and now they are married for many years. She was 12 when they met, and he was 38, you do the Math. Of course they got married when she was older. He plays a big impact in her career. Some women's lib would say, why such relationship, why get married to your career manager, the man who groomed you into fame, but I would say so what if your Manager who plays a big responsibility in your success, turns out to be your husband in the long run. No big deal.
I don't know where you saw Vikram wanting to commit suicide. I only know of Sugni saying she would commit suicide if he turned out to be negative. Also, Sugni does not make Vikram weak. If I am to agree with your word 'weak,' then Vikram made himself weak. There is a big difference. You have control over your life, people can't make you the way you are. He handled the situation in the wrong way, he lied and that is the truth of the matter. Sugni made Vikram happy. Until you have experienced the type of happiness you never want to lose according to Vikram, then it is not fair to say Sugni does not impact his life, in a positive way.
You stated what does Sugni have to offer Vikram other than love. Well, that is a very odd statement to make, because life is love. So, even if Sugni had a Masters, and she was some top manager for a company, if she did not have what it takes to make Vikram feel loved, what really would be her worth? Vikram already has money and financial stability, he only wants a "Sane," life partner to enjoy it with, clearly or he would not go to such an extent to lie to keep Sugni. Besides, love is a broad thing, it comes with so many ways in which you can love and make another person happy. So, I am really surprised you made such a statement, but I will refrain from judging you. If I have misunderstood you line of argument, feel free to correct me.
Adi needs to grow up himself. He approaches so many situations, emotionally and immaturely.
They both need some growing up to do as they both are the most broken characters in the show...they could do it together...they could fix each other up together slowly as they are young and have all the time ahead of them...there would be more drama and twists if this ship happens...how they develop themselves emotionally and grow together to be a matured couple...
If you speak to psychologists or psychiatrists they will tell you two broken persons cannot fix each other. They will have many struggles, and an unhealthy relationship. Many irrational arguments, misunderstandings and the list goes on. You may love each other, but that does not mean it is enough to sustain a healthy relationship, even if you do stay together. No one can fix you, you have to fix yourself. I never said Vikram was fixing Sugni, I said he contributes to her development and that is only because Sugni is an ambitious and strong person. If she carried around baggage like Aditya, and behaved like him, there is nothing Vikram could do to motivate her.
Amrita is already a confident, and liberal girl, because she is exposed to a different way of life, where there is hope, so she can deal with the complications of Adi and his mental world of family betrayals, lack of trust and uncertainties about his childhood etc. etc. etc.
Sugni have enough problems of her of her own.
If Amrita can help him then why is he still wounded and broken...she is a strong and has all the positive values but somehow she'll never understand his pain because she is not been through with it...she's very righteous and sometimes neglects his feelings...she never seen him as a broken character...i think two broken characters can solve their problems together as they understand each other better..
right now i know it's difficult to see aditya and sugni together as a pair because he seems sadistic...but it would be interesting to watch how aditya stone and wounded heart slowly melts for sugni...
it probably wouldn't even matter anymore anyway because this show has gone way way downhill and i quit watching it...
i'm sorry if i was rude...🥱
Please read my post again, I did not say she can help him or fix him. I said she can Handle him better than Sugni. On observing Sugni, I am sure we can agree how emotional Sugni is. Sugni gets upset pretty easy, and she says whatever comes to her, and does not hold back. Aditya is very similar. Do you really think it is healthy that both Aditya and Sugni have the same type of erratic temperament? With the baggage that Aditya was carrying around. Try and remember their arguments and visualise a relationship in the future. Aditya does not even deserve Amrita, I have said this on the forum some days ago. However, she is much calmer and patient than Sugni, because her confidence about life and future is much clearer, due to her more privilege circumstances.
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