Posted: 11 August 2012 at 9:27pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by bhallarox
Originally posted by soapwatcher1
Originally posted by sherma Dear sherna, Archana did not know about Savita's duplicity either 18 years ago so since neither husband nor wife knew, both are at fault for not clarifying the issue with each other. Cannot blame one without the other.
@soapwatcher:manav dnt knew abt savitas intentions,whereas archana knew it.its not to blame manav here.and varsha was archanamad sister,who hav actually got violent and attackd people includng archana,archana invitd trouble for soham.look aftr 18 years where is soham,d way archu forgot ovi teju seeing purvi,she forgnt soham too.she wil b d first one to forgive varsha and she wnt let manav punishher either.and ya manav was scared for his kids cause he knw hw archana was and hw much she luv her sisters.archana dnt allw manav to put varsha behnd bars wen she kidnappd soham
In the current track, yes, I do hold Archana at fault<font color="#0000ff"> (together with Savita and Soham for plotting </font>such a dastardly plan) for not disclosing Savita's forgery tricks, both my posts in this very thread state that. I strongly believe Archana should disclose the truth to her daughters. Just as much as Manav owes them the truth about 18 years ago, Archana owes them the truth about the current divorce situation. Savita as a grandma has less of a duty towards her grand daughters than the parents themselves do.
As for Purvi not thanking Manav, Manav hung up in her when she was speaking, didn't give her a chance. At the hospital with Arjun at death's door, all their thought were elsewhere.
As for wanting her baba and not Ovi and Teju, that is not true at all. Purvi is younger than the two girls, sovthe older two should have more sense than her. She pleaded with Teju and Tej brushed her off at the K house if you remember. Tej rudely told her not to interfere in their family affair. Ovi has been nothing but repugnant to her, slapping her, being nasty at the hospital, asking her dad to let her "sister" languish at the hands of the very goondas that supposedly were to kidnap her, Ovi. Purvi is not like Archana to go be a doormat and to turn her other cheek every time the twin girls take a figurative lunge at her.
Come on now, let us be fair, let us hold the twins responsible for not doing anything to be nice to Purvi and this before even finding about the Arjun involvement. Let us call a spade a spade :) no offense.
@bold Yes Archana may not have known the plan 18 years ago but she definitely did know right after 18 years. When Savita had Sachu forge divorce papers Manav looked at it and thought that Archana can not do this. So he went to India and actually asked Archana if she signed the divorce papers and wanted to divorce him to which Archana replied yes she did sign(when she really didn't) But then started insulting Manav terribly at Punni's engagement.
There is no way for Manav to know that Archana did not sign the divorce papers as she had not told him. She could've told Sachu in a nice way that no I can't go along with this condition you have put in front of me Manav is my husband and you are my son so I love you both but she had to go along and sacrifice for Sachu. And I'm sure if Archana said no to Sachu's condition Sachu would not have minded it much as he's very understanding but Archana had to go along with it and prove to Manav that she just wants alimony. What my question is how is Manav supposed to know that Archana loves him and she is doing this acting like asking for alimony, car, property etc just for Sachin's sake. Manav is not a mind reader so there is no way for him to know and I'm sure if Archana told Manav that I'm doing this for Sachu only Manav would believe her(and at this point I won't even blame him if he doesn't believe her because Archana is playing a 2 sided game) but she doesn't say anything of that sort.
Janhvi I guess we disagree on Purvi vs Teju/Ovi and that's totally fine
Actually Teju has been quite friendly to Purvi when she was living at the K home. And Ovi too had liked Purvi until she found out about Arvi's affair. Yes I agree that Arjun is definitely at fault for not telling Ovi the truth that he loves Purvi. However I feel that these days Ovi is not getting as much love and affection as Purvi is. Archu and Sulo are there just for Purvi. Did you notice how indifferent Sulo was looking toward Ovi when she said smiling and gloating announcing at the D home that today is Arvi's engagement. She can't expect Ovi to be in favor of Arvi's relationship and neither can Archu expect Manav to come to the engagement as well. Right now Manav, Sachu, Teju, Savita and even Damodar's focus should be on Ovi and help her find ways to move on. Arjun and DK too should explain things nicely to her that Arjun is in love with Purvi. At this point I'd even rather have Arjun marry Purvi and Ovi marry someone else. but the part that was the most irritating was the indifference Sulo showed toward Ovi. Even Savita was concerned when Purvi got kidnapped.(Not saying that she shouldn't have been but Ovi is Sulo's granddaughter too as much as Purvi is so she should have thought twice about just coming and barging in the home and inviting them like that)
@blue did you mean Savita and Sachu by any chance?
Anyway sorry to disagree with u
Dear Bhalla, totally in agreement with you that right now, Archana is at fault more than Manav is for not disclosing the truth, more to the girls than to Manav himself. (I don't think there is anything to be said on the trust issue between the husband and wife, they have the strangest of relationships, after having lived together for however many years as a couple, they should have been able to second guess and trust each other's motives, I have given up on them ever making sense) I have said the same thingabout Archana needing to tell her daughters in all three of my posts now :) I think (feel free to disagree) that a mother's duty is to her children first more so than her husband and that is why even if she wants to hide Sachin's truth from Manav, she shouldn't be hiding it from the two girls. They are hurting and in need of her loving so yes, she definitely owes it to them, no doubt at all.
As far as Purvi and Teju are concerned, yes Tej was nice to Purvi until she found out that Archana was her mom, remember the scene when Tej comes to Sulo's house to pack her bags and is so rude to Purvi? I actually don't think Tej or Purvi should be blamed for the downward turn in their friendship (even if Purvi made more of an attempt to try to explain to Tej), it was a natural turn of events.
Alsoeven though I don't agree with Ovi's delusional behavior, I do understand the pain she is going through and definitely did not like the way Sulo was portrayed with not even a sympathetic look towards Ovi (concept of tough love, perhaps?). In complete agreement too that Ovi needs Manav with her as his attending Purvi's engagement will be like the straw that broke the camel's back and will lead to her total undoing. Like I said in my earlier two posts, Archana should make Purvi understand that Manav cannot be there and should herself not expect Manav to be present at Purvi's engagement but should expect him to give solace to Ovi.
Same token, I wish Manav would allow Archana to talk to Ovi, all said and done, she is the mother and does love Ovi, we know that howeveridiotically she chooses to express it. Moms can say hometruths to daughters that no one else can,they can be blunt and brutal and still say it with so much love that the child can understand that the mom's intention is to help not to hurt.I see Savita mollifying Ovi, she dare not tell her grand daughter the truth about Arjun, Manav did and Archanaas a mother will have no compunction in telling Ovithe truth either. Ovi needs to face the fact Arjun is not for her and move on, she is still in denial and pussyfooting around the issuewill only cause her more harm. Keeping Archana away from Ovi however well-intentional on Manav's part is the wrong thing to do. I don't think Archana is there just for Purvi, she is a mother torn between two children and keeps flip flopping with each new situation, other forum members had felt before that she was sidelining Purvi for Ovi. It would be hard for any mom to be in her position.
And yes, meant Sachin not Soham :)
Edited by soapwatcher1 - 12 August 2012 at 12:03am