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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 1:53pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by princessunara

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Originally posted by princessunara

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uh uh seriously? today there were people who had a problem with what Arnav said?Ouch what the hell!! Shocked

today all my sympathy was with Arnav!! and indeed it was the best thing that the connection to Khushi is never again mentioned regarding Shyam. because in reality the identity of the girl he lusted after and decided to cheat his wife with is irrelevant as the fact that he decided to cheat on his wife remains unchanged!!
whether a girl enticed a man or not is not relevant as the man himself should be the one who respects the marriage wows he took and remain faithful to his partner...

so honestly khushi is not relevant to this equation!! it is just a coincident that the girl shyam lusted after ended up being close to his wife's family!

anyway today what i find confusing with ur post is, who actually said anything about Arnav not caring for Khushi due to the conversation he had with dadi??

can u pls give me the link to such a post please? cz that is plain stupid even to mention it!!
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Today, some people are thinking that Khushi is the poor soul; actually, Arnav is the poor soul.
well this line, i would like to correct it and say they both deserve sympathy.
Arnav has a horrendous past due to which he is the man he is today.
Khushi has a bad past too, about which we r not yet aware of.
But another factor is Arnav did destroy Khushi's present (which he is rectifying right now)
what remains to be revealed is how Khushi's past was responsible for the destruction of Arnav's past..

so we can't say only one deserves sympathy and understanding..they both do..as this promo clearly says..



 
I am not able to find the posts, but I am sure that they are rotating in the forum. Regarding my 'poor soul' line, yes they both equally deserve sympathy; however, some people only think that Khushi is always the poor soul because her pain is visible - it is in the open and only because Arnav's sorrows are hidden, people fail to sympathize with him.


today i actually only saw posts that said good about him and feeling sorry for his past..so no i didn't 4 a change see a single Arnav bashing topic in this entire forum since the episode aired..so pls don't assume and write as if they really existed. cz today there weren't any!

and lol i guess we think exactly opposite about the visibility of both their pain! i usually can clearly see Arnav's pain while Khushi's pain is the one i find hidden and brushed aside!
only common sense tells me that she has to be hurting so bad inside her as she never shows it!! while in Arnav's case the story shows his pain clearly to the audience...

also i guess the main difference 4 the people who say 'poor soul to Khsuhi' is cz Khushi has no conscious partaking in creating Arnav's pain, while Arnav clearly is responsible for Khushi's pain..n there lies the difference...

 


Edited by Deb_Barun_Arnav - 10 August 2012 at 1:57pm

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Couldnt agree with you more. What people are overlooking is the suffering of Arnav Singh Raizada.. a man who has been trying to pull his and his family's life together since the age of 14! (like he mentioned today to his Dadi, with utmost pain)

Bearing and understanding the responsibility that the sudden events shoved onto his shoulders his only option was to suppress his emotions/helplessness and become the pillar of support for his sister. That is a lot to for a 14 year old!

15 long painful years spent struggling to keep his Di happy, and at no time displaying his weakness and insecurities to her..fearing the impact they might have. All he wanted was her happiness, that is all.

Now finally finding someone with whom he can share his pain, to whom he can show that he too has a heart that feels pain; and he is confronted with his Dadi who is bent on making him relive the dreadful past.

Her presence reopened the old wounds and her words rub salt on them.

He is once again being forced to suffer, by his Dadi who abandoned him when he needed her the most. The woman who should have made sure that this uncle did not leave them (him and Anjali) homeless, the woman who should have been there to support him like his mother.

She is pushing him into a dark corner and down an alley of confusion and uncertainty; Accusing his mother, and questioning his decision. Pointing out how wrong he has been all his life! He has always been the pain buffer for his family, and he will continue to be so. Khushi is his only support, and he does not want to worry her. He will protect her too.

So all in all he is one bearing the brunt just so that his loved ones can smile and sleep peacefully!


Edited by MaddyAddy - 10 August 2012 at 2:13pm
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Completely agree with you. I think he just chose his words carefully today. If he had so much as mentioned Khushi, Dadi would have pounced upon that opportunity and ended up insulting Khushi. She even went as far as asking if he was sure he only kicked Shyam out to protect his sister. Urgh! She's just annoying me right now! What is wrong with this woman? Why is she even back (I know to move the show forwards Tongue) she still annoys me though.

I feel sorry for both Khushi and Arnav, they both have horrible pasts like you have said. I am feeling extremely bad for Arnav these days. It seems he has got way too much going on. 
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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 1:58pm | IP Logged
appreciate ur post...

Ohhh..I forgot to read d last lines...

yeah ARNAV is a poor soul...he has dark past...first,it was shyams ugly face relevation,thn kidnapping,thn winning khushi's heart,Dii's aborrtion case..n now DADI...CryCry he is goin thru so much!!!
thankxx 4 this post!!!!Hug


Edited by aditi_arshi - 10 August 2012 at 2:07pm
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yes i also saw some posts ...i was like wat the hell vth this ppl ..it doesnt mean tht khushi is not impt just becoz he said di is impt...i also thoought tht he didnt wanna drag khshi to this bcoz he kne if dadi comes to knw shya was lusting on khushi like him she will also misundstd ...i agreee vth u and yeah khushi also deserves sympathy pooor girl she is tensed abt sr wch make her to do all pagalpans :D{jokes apart}...yeah she also has dreadful past ...thnx for making this post i was abt to make one ...hi5
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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 2:00pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by kbtr

Originally posted by Deb_Barun_Arnav

Arnav and Khushi are each other's life and soul. Khushi is Arnav's life and weakness; whereas Di is like his mother. We all know that when he was 14 years old - he lost both of his parents; that to a tragic death. He is over possessive about Anjali due to this reason - he fears that what if she ends up taking such a step and she already made an attempt. He is aware that Dadi does not like Khushi for whatever reason. The discussion today was about Anjali and Shyam - that is why he said Di is important. He did not want to drag Khushi in the conversation and increase Dadi's anger for her. He actually saved Khushi and took all the blame upon himself by saying that he himself kicked Shyam out. If he said that he threw Shyam out because of what Khushi revealed - Dadi would have started to hate Khushi even more. Also, Dadi could have said something about Khushi's character - she liked Shyam and all. She would not believe what Khushi had said - she would take Shyam's side into consideration and support him because of Anjali. This kind of behaviour was brushed upon in today's episode when after so many years Dadi did not leave a stone unturned to call Arnav's mother a weak woman; therefore, if she finds out that the main reason for Shyam being kicked out is Khushi - do you think she will spare her? As a result, Arnav answered Dadi's question cleverly and we all know that Khushi and Anjali are two different women in his life - one is his wife and the other is his sister. Thus, no one can take his wife's place; similarly, no one can take his Di's place. In addition, he already told his entire family that Khushi and Anjali are both very important in his life. Today, some people are thinking that Khushi is the poor soul; actually, Arnav is the poor soul. He has such a horrendous past, which he tried his best to bury but it somehow sprung up and came before him through Dadi; his sister is in a depressing condition; he is trying his best to win his wife's heart before the contract ends and after all this he is enduring Dadi's offensive behaviour towards him.

Don't forget that she lost her parents when she was eight. We don't know how she feels about that because the focus has been on him, not her. Apart from the fact that she has uttered a few words to him (poolside-stars, bridge-on the way back from GH after she found out he had seen her and Shyam, and that she believes they are stars,) we haven't seen any of her feelings and thoughts about her parents (except for her looking at the stars when she is really desperate.) There haven't been any FB on her part, she has fears about that, we know, she mentioned, but we haven't seen any of it. I'm hoping when the great showdown occurs, her past will be revealed, too.

Well said KBTR
Nothing on earth can compensate Khushi's pain .Arnav atleast had a blood relation to be by his side plus his illustrious mama raizada family, while Khushi was bought up as orphan.
About who is important di/khushi, that is altogether another topic not that crucial but Khushi's pain is no inferior to anyones pain even arnav's.
Shri Krishna says Every on is entitled to their Own karma. Arnav pain arnav has to bear of his past, But Khushi is bearing pain of losing parents plus pain given by arnav to her which she didnt deserve. Even She was not asked for forgiveness instaed she was won over by jalebis, channas , pearl set.
Arnav's sadness needed single focus, i wud have liked first if Khushi's sadness part was solved,But its hanging somewhere that suddenly dadi entered. Khushi's problen should hv been concluded first.
Then Focus on Arnav and his past, Too many track all at one go is not doing justice to Neither Khushi nor Arnav. Its Hotch Potch
Still lets hope for the best

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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 2:45pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Deb_Barun_Arnav

Originally posted by princessunara

Originally posted by Deb_Barun_Arnav

Originally posted by princessunara

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uh uh seriously? today there were people who had a problem with what Arnav said?Ouch what the hell!! Shocked

today all my sympathy was with Arnav!! and indeed it was the best thing that the connection to Khushi is never again mentioned regarding Shyam. because in reality the identity of the girl he lusted after and decided to cheat his wife with is irrelevant as the fact that he decided to cheat on his wife remains unchanged!!
whether a girl enticed a man or not is not relevant as the man himself should be the one who respects the marriage wows he took and remain faithful to his partner...

so honestly khushi is not relevant to this equation!! it is just a coincident that the girl shyam lusted after ended up being close to his wife's family!

anyway today what i find confusing with ur post is, who actually said anything about Arnav not caring for Khushi due to the conversation he had with dadi??

can u pls give me the link to such a post please? cz that is plain stupid even to mention it!!
Ermm

Today, some people are thinking that Khushi is the poor soul; actually, Arnav is the poor soul.
well this line, i would like to correct it and say they both deserve sympathy.
Arnav has a horrendous past due to which he is the man he is today.
Khushi has a bad past too, about which we r not yet aware of.
But another factor is Arnav did destroy Khushi's present (which he is rectifying right now)
what remains to be revealed is how Khushi's past was responsible for the destruction of Arnav's past..

so we can't say only one deserves sympathy and understanding..they both do..as this promo clearly says..



 
I am not able to find the posts, but I am sure that they are rotating in the forum. Regarding my 'poor soul' line, yes they both equally deserve sympathy; however, some people only think that Khushi is always the poor soul because her pain is visible - it is in the open and only because Arnav's sorrows are hidden, people fail to sympathize with him.


today i actually only saw posts that said good about him and feeling sorry for his past..so no i didn't 4 a change see a single Arnav bashing topic in this entire forum since the episode aired..so pls don't assume and write as if they really existed. cz today there weren't any!

and lol i guess we think exactly opposite about the visibility of both their pain! i usually can clearly see Arnav's pain while Khushi's pain is the one i find hidden and brushed aside!
only common sense tells me that she has to be hurting so bad inside her as she never shows it!! while in Arnav's case the story shows his pain clearly to the audience...

also i guess the main difference 4 the people who say 'poor soul to Khsuhi' is cz Khushi has no conscious partaking in creating Arnav's pain, while Arnav clearly is responsible for Khushi's pain..n there lies the difference...

 


read the disclaimer at the end..it clearly says it ISN'T about today's Arnav-dadi conversation!!
that was my point..cz feeling jealous of that conversation on behalf of Khushi, when it was the best thing to keep Khushi away from it would have been stupid!!
and that is why i said i didn't find a single post today begrudging what Arnav said to dadi

otherwise honestly in Khushi's case Arnav IS the single most important person in her life...while Arnav's case it is both Khushi and Anjali with Anjali taking the lead...

so on  normal day i do wish Khushi was more important, and one day i believe she will be too...until then i am ready to understand why his sister is so important to him..and it s unfair to make him chose!!
but at the same time i see how unfair it is for Khushi that for no person in her life, is she the most important person...

so as i said above too..it goes both ways...i can't pick b/w them, i sympathize with both of their plights...


Edited by princessunara - 10 August 2012 at 2:48pm
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a horrendous past, which he tried his best to bury but it somehow sprung up and came before him
i agree
intresting post

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