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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 12:12pm | IP Logged
When the twain meet: Past and Present
Dadi to Arnav:
The past  will always  make it's presence felt...You cannot overlook it...But do not commit  the same error  that will mar your present ...


Arnav to Dadi:
The past cannot effect the present ...Does not deserve a worthy look now... It can never shape the present...

When  the past and present meet...fireworks light up  the horizon... because it is a spectacular event  where  the old order meets the new.. the past brings necessary learning for the present in its errors and hidden treasures ( truths) for the present to correct its course.. and  together they shape a better future . It is not about who is wrong and who is right.. both have erring and victories..

Arnav has a better understanding of the present .. Shyam and Khushi.. and was not unjustified in his actions in whom to trust and mistrust...He was a 14 yr old kid when the events of the past unfolded  on the fateful night who might  not be aware of the entire truth of the situation or have the maturity of an adult to view the incident critically...He has not solved the puzzle of the past as he proudly thinks...

Dadi was in the thick of  events as it played out in the past... she knew more about it than her young grandson then... her belief still holds true and may be justified with time...she has been away from her grandchildren for 14 yrs... they have grown up and are not the same as they were then...Arnav is living in the present  he has a better knowledge of the incidents at Shantivan... Dadi is adamant on her staunch belief that she understood the drama behind the four walls of sheesh mahal so she knows what has transpired in Shantivan...She needs to be made aware that Shantivan and Sheesh Mahal are not same..they are very different from each other...

As the manthan of their ideologies and  beliefs unfolds we will keep getting pearls of insights into the tragedy of the past to string it together and see how the knowledge of past and present shared by the grandson and grandma  shapes up the future of Iss Pyar Ko Kya Naam Doon...


Edited by sunshine99 - 10 August 2012 at 5:29pm

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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 12:17pm | IP Logged
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Chalo..mai bhi kuch bak bak karleeithi hoon!! Agar poor a episode dekhneke himmat hei tho!

Filaal mei tho episode Dekhi nahi Magar suna hei ki daadi-ASR argument Se bhara..

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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 12:20pm | IP Logged
Finally Finally watched the episode!
So the past is catching up with Arnav :) Somehow, I just feel like there is some big mis-understanding that was not cleared at the time. I am not able to put a pulse of who is in the wrong here...but I have my doubts about suicide too...what is one of Arnav's dad/mom was murdered and staged as suicide? Not that we know if any of them saw them commit suicide in front of any witnesses...so at this point I am not ruling out anything.
I think that neutral party to show light to everyone is going to be Khushi...she is probably a victim of the war between the Jhas and the Maliks...and just as any war...a lot of innocents were victims...who were not on any side in particular...she might be that case.

The other thing that is standing out to me now, is that Arnav and Khushi have to get to that point in their relationship...where there is no return. Only then will the premise of the series..Nafrat paas aane na de aur Mohabbat door jaane na de will hold true. Yes, they are in love, they are close, but they still have not gone all the way yet, emotionally and physically; especially, as some others have pointed out...for a woman, in this case Khushi, who already wears her heart on her sleeve, if she takes that extra step towards physical intimacy, its going to make it more than impossible to break away from Arnav, should the situation arise.

So my 2 cents are that...they will go all the way...and then the whole truth will come out...so it makes it all the more dramatic and pulsating :)

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Today's story

A very flustered, confused and scared Khushi is just not paying attention to her surroundings.  She pours water into the Dadi's glass instead of nani's, wears her kurta the opposite way and makes jalebi's when nani asks her to prepare kheer. Her naughty husband continues to tease her asking if something is wrong and then reminds her about their SUHAG RAAT when they are alone. He's enjoying her discomfort very much.

Anjali is ready to leave for the temple and refuses the company of both Aranv and mami; she has a  secret rendezvous with SOMEONE and is definitely not at the temple.  Mami tries to contact her and on finding from the driver that he's' still waiting at the temple and no sign of Anjali, decides to tell Arnav.

Meanwhile, Dadi is grilling Nani about the whereabouts of damaad ji and why he hasn't come to see her.  Even though Nani tries to pacify her, dadi does not want any more excuses.  Arnav hears dadi's loud voice, comes down and tells the truth about kicking out Shyam because he gave Anjali a lot of grief and cheated on her.  He has no intentions of bringing back Shyam, ever. 

Dadi asks how Arnav was trying to protect his sister by sending away her husband; didn't he realize Anjali's kid will need the father and does he want the kid to grow up without the protection of the father just as he did? An angry Arnav tells her that he grew up without his father because he committed suicide and his mother was forced to commit suicide too. This, he will not let it happen to his sister.

Dadi hits a raw nerve by telling Arnav that his mother was a weak woman who didn't know how to take care of her family. She says he's still making the same mistake as in the past and supporting the wrong party. Arnav asks her not to bring up the past, the past that shattered the whole family.  How hard he's tried to build back his life and to forget the past.  Why is dadi bringing back old memories, doesn't she want them to forget the past? Dadi tells him we cannot run away from the past, but we can however fix the present, isn't it? By not bringing Shyam, the future of this house will definitely be affected.  Arnav disagrees and feels that his decision is correct, both in the past and now; in the past it was dad's mistake and today it's Shyam's.

Nani comes and uses the ace card 'Anjali' to stop the confrontation and argument.  She reasons with them that Anjali is happy because of the puja, so let's all stop for now.  Dadi and Nani walk away one after another and Anrav is left all alone once again.

Lone Soldier

Arnav has always been the lone soldier, the one who was forced to grow up fast after his parent's died, take care of Anjali, pick up the shattered pieces of their lives, build a new life that they can call their own, run a business, ensure the safety and happiness of his family members etc.  In all this he's had family support, but still he's all alone.

Isn't it true that we all have to fight our own demons? Help may come in the form of Khushi or someone else, but the fighting is ours and ours alone.  Arnav is once again a lone soldier who's been fighting his past; he got a brief respite in all these years when he opened up to Khushi, but there's still a long way to go.  So, what battles is he fighting now?  His father cheated on his mother by having an affair just the way Shyam tried to do with Anjali and both his parents committed suicide and here we have Dadi who's bent of bringing up the past again and again, the same past he's trying to forget and move on.

Sometimes your worst nightmares come true, and in Anjali's case, it has come true in the form of husband being blamed, sepeartion and loneliness.  Arnav who's chosen himself to fight her battles has jumped into the war field once again. Remember, Arnav married Khushi because of Anjail; Arnav threw Shyam out because of Anjali; today, Arnav's and Dadi's confrontation is once again because of Anjali.  Wondering why Anjali is not fighting her own battles? It'll happen only when the family stops mollycoddling her and gives her a chance to fight on her own.  I've said this before that she has to remove the blindfold that she's wearing and see Shyam for what he is.  

 

Living in the past

Funny story: A guru and his young disciple were trying to cross a river.  A young and beautiful woman joins them.  She's scared of water and asks for help in crossing.  The young disciple thinks to himself that touching a woman is a sin and god knows what'll happen, so he refuses.  The guru without any hesitation picks up the young girl in his arms and starts walking.  Once they reach the other side, he sets her on the shore.  The young woman thanks him and leaves.  The guru and disciple continue on their way, but guruji realizes something is bothering his disciple and asks him about it.  The disciple then asks him how could he just pick up this young woman, she's of opposite sex, didn't he have any feelings, aren't they supposed to practice celibacy etc. etc.  The guruji smiles and tells him, he was just doing his duty to a fellow being and forgot about the young woman completely the moment he left her on the shore and his responsibility was done. But, the disciple is still hanging on to her from the time he met her on the other side of the water front and is still unable to forget her.  So, who's hanging on the past here? Shouldn't we learn to move on? 

Note: Though a funny little story, it had a lot of meaning for me.  So, I thought to include it here.

 

Let me ask a question.  Who's not living in the past in the Raizada pariwar?  Every single one of them is bearing the burden of the past, all except Akash.

Dadi ji, has been living in an ashram for about 14-15 years and we assume she's learnt to deal with her past by now.  But, has she? Like the young disciple in the story, she's decided not to take up the responsibility, left her grandkids with nani and hasn't been in touch with them.  Not only that, she's hanging on to the past without letting it go.  Does she realize that her family is already burdened with too many things and they do not need the 'WOH HAADSA' and 'WOH AURAT' brought into the picture?

Instrument of Change

Having said what I did above, I'll give a slight different perspective about dadi.  To perform a surgery, you need an instrument.  In our case, the patient is Arnav Singh Raizada whose wounds have to be exposed first, the stuff gone bad has to be removed and then the wound has to heal.  How to expose the wound?  Just cut it open.  The instrument in his case (yup, you guessed it) is none other than Dadi ji, she has no choice except to bring up the past which caused a deep wound in Arnav.  Can one blame the instrument for doing its job?  I'll leave you to your own decision.

Right and Wrong
 

After watching today's confrontation between Arnav and Dadi, I was thinking about whos' right and who's wrong.  Arnav does not want his sister to be hurt again, he knows the truth about shyam and has made it clear that he will not bring back Shyam.  His past is definitely affecting his decision here, so, he's right from his side.  On the other hand Dadi feels that Arnav is siding with the wrong party (how does she know this?) and in her POV, Arnav's decision now is bound to affect the future i.e. future of the baby to be born. We never know how the baby will react once grown up and he/she finds out what Arnav did to his father.  A very valid point from Dadi's side.  BTW is Dadi evil? NO.  Does she hate her grandkids? NO.  Does she want the best for them? Yes.  Considering all these, can we tell who's right and who's wrong? Once again, I leave the decision to you.

 

To ponder:

1)     Will Dadi support Shyam if and when she comes to know the truth? 

2)    Does Anjali know what trouble she getting the family into by trying to meet with Shyam and hiding things?

 

Bahut Mazaa Aaya:

I think the whole episode was about confrontation, a FACE OFF, between grandmother and grandson.  Swati Chitnis and Barun Sobti were fantasticClapClapClap.  But, had a small problem with Barun's tone of voice; volume was not high enough in some places and I missed out on very important dialogs.

Jayashree T. - It's always a pleasure to see you.ClapClap



Edited by chitmanas - 10 August 2012 at 2:40pm

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JUST TO CLARIFY - In my theory, Khushi and Arnav are NOT related. Khushi is the child of her parents, and Arnav's dad just lusts after her mum. He didn't marry her or anything, therefore Khushi and Arnav are in no way related. 
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Bonjour guys! First off, thank you so much to all of those who liked my post! Special thanks to Anu, Riyya, Shreya, Sathya, Shastradhari, Areeba, Joy, Rits, Shaz, Sharmi and Vasi for your lovely words, conversation and posts! Shaz, your guttery post has corrupted me! Embarrassed

Yesterday's post: http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3140225&PID=62660785&#62660785
On Monday I will try to highlight points that I liked in all of the Redux posts of today because I've never done that before and I owe it to you guys to appreciate your comments as much as you guys appreciate mine.

I haven't seen the episode yet, so this analysis will be based on the LUs I read. But we got a Dadi-Arnav face-off apparently and a sweet teasing moment between ArHi. Aww, maza aa gaya! We'll obviously have to wait and see what the 'suhaag raat' will be like and the contents of the suitcase. Our gutter minds have a whole weekend to operate now! LOL

I'll briefly analyse the episode, but I want to share my theory of the past with you guys. This thought just suddenly emerged in my mind and it makes some sort of sense.

Scenes that stood out for me:
- Khushi going crazy thinking of her suhaag raat with Arnav LOL
The dialogue in yesterday's episode when she was against the wall reminded me of the Teri Meri dance, when he said that he wasn't going to eat her. He loves that dialogue Wink
Today's scene reminded me of that scene as well, where she said 'A-aap?' & he said 'haan, main'. Aww, ArHi are so cute!
- WHO IS ANJALI MEETING? Well, we all have an idea but maybe the CVs are trying to shock us? Although, the way she was texting like a giggly teen in the precap does suggest it's Shyam, but who knows? Then again, I did think that during the kidnapping track they wouldn't go down the obvious Shyam route, but they did. So maybe it is Shyam again. But Anjali, lying to everyone is not a good idea!
- Arnav-Dadi face-off. So Arnav's dad committed suicide too! I have written about that above. One good thing to come of that conversation is that Dadi now knows that Arnav has no intention of allowing Shyam to return, and we can see that Arnav wants to forget the past. Just as Khushi is helping him to forget by bringing happiness into his life, Dadi seems adamant to bring him down again. & when she spoke about him making the same mistake again, taking the wrong side, this made me think that Arnav is right in thinking of his dad as the villain. After all, Dadi thinks Arnav's judgement of Shyam is wrong, when we all know it's right. Fine, Arnav hasn't had the best track record when it comes to judging people, but I think he's right about his father. Or maybe the opposite is true - his initial judgement always tends to be wrong. We all remember what he initially thought of Khushi, that she wanted to sabotage him. His first thoughts on Shyam were that he's such a great brother-in-law. His impression of his father is that he's the bad guy - will that impression change in time? Arnav willing to put the past behind him sets a good foundation for his relationship with Khushi. It means that even when he discovers what part she played in all the events, they will overcome their issues and any separation will be temporary.

I hope that short analysis was better than no analysis!

Okay, the following analysis is probably not going to be true as it is difficult to say where other characters, for example Chacha and Garima fit into the picture, as well as Nani, Dadi and Shyam. This is merely my theory on what could potentially have happened.

I will say this again - I almost certainly don't think the doosri aurat is Khushi's mother. Mainly because everyone talks about Khushi being a lovechild of the two of them and I completely disagree with a half-sibling relationship between ArHi! HOWEVER, it may be possible (not the half-sibling thing - rather, Khushi's mother being the doosri aurat). Before I get tamaatars thrown at me, please hear me out. We all know that history tends to repeat itself in this show, right? Just the analysis I've done in the past few days proves this. So what if the Arnav-Khushi-Shyam-Anjali love triangle is a repeat of past events? For the sake of this, Arnav & Khushi are representing Khushi's parents, and Anjali and Shyam are Arnav's parents. 'Arnav and Khushi' may have both been desperately in love and gotten married. They then had a baby. But 'Shyam' lusted after 'Khushi', despite being married to 'Anjali' and having two children of his own (remind you of anything? Anjali's expecting twins...). Shyam, being completely crazy over Khushi, may have wanted to kill Arnav so that he could leave Anjali and be with Khushi (or commit bigamy and be married to them both, intending for neither to discover the truth). But remember back to the kidnapping track, Shyam left Khushi for dead. He decided that if he couldn't have Khushi, no one could. So Shyam then arranged for an accident to take place, and both of them died in the accident (we've all seen Shyam's murder attempts before). Shyam, unable to take the guilt and grief he felt after losing Khushi, committed suicide because he went crazy in his love for her. Anjali, unable to live without him, then committed suicide herself. Okay, so I need to amend my story a bit. According to what Arnav said in yesterday's episode, his mother committed suicide first. Dadi said she was 'weak', so maybe she couldn't cope with the fact that her husband was going after another woman and she committed suicide. Her husband, then realising that he's lost both his wife and the woman he was lusting after 'committed suicide'. Personally, I don't think he did. I'll stand by what I've said all along & I don't think their father committed suicide. From what they've shown Arnav's dad to be like, he's sly and cunning. I still think he faked his own death as he didn't want the responsibility of taking care of his children, and maybe Dadi's here to try to pave his way into RM. This is baseless speculation, but I have a strong feeling that Dadi does have some motives for her sudden arrival, as well as her sudden disappearance. This is all part of a grander plan. I also think Nani's hiding something... daal main kuch kaala hai with regards to her behaviour.

I'm in no way saying that history will repeat itself this time, but I couldn't help but notice the parallels. I think in a way what is happening now is an indication of what could have happened before; the truth could have come out and 'Shyam' could have been stopped before he went to such an extreme.

Please, if anyone has anything to add to this do let me know. I'd be very interested to read your theories and whether you feel any of the other characters would be able to slot in at all.

Have a great guttery weekend guys!
Ghausia

P.S. I've made some gifs of legendary Mami from yesterday's episode & some of ArHi falling. I originally had posted them on here, but I decided to make a Tumblr blog for my IPKKND stuff, so my gifs are there too:
http://ipkkndgifs.tumblr.com


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Aww likes before I've even written anything...you guys EmbarrassedEmbarrassed
 
Updated:-
 
I've had such a tiring few days I was sure I wouldn't write anything. But once again this addiction pulls me back in! Iss majboori ko kya naam doon?
 
Another great episode in my opinion. On first viewing I wasn't so sure I enjoyed it but I think it just wasn't an episode I was expecting as a follow up from yesterday. Then after rewatching, thinking & discussing (thanks Joy, Shaz, Ghausia, Trin, Jhalak, Shas & Sharmi) I was able to think clearly.
 
Let's dig in shall we...
 
Even though there weren't many Arshi scenes, I loved the ones we were given:
 
1) Arnav teasing Khushi throughout. You know exactly why she's so lost in her thoughts today! Not only that, you're reveling in the fact she's so caught up in you. 
 
2) Arnav pulling Khushi behind the pillar DDLJ ishtylee Wink Also a nice little tribute to last years episode, with the gendha phools fyling around over the couple. Loved Arnav's 'matter of a fact' way of stating that tonight's the night! Really Arnie you wanted to check if she's scared - she's petrified!! (and rightly so)
 
Khushi's antics seemed a bit forced today, added just to fill the comedy quotient of the episode. But luckily Sanaya excels at comedy so you got away with it CVs.

 
As much as I love NK I didn't see the need for their 'candle and wick' show promotion. They are constantly higher in the TRP charts so why the free advertisment. (After a lengthy discussion with the Redux night owls I've come to know that DABH isn't doing so well because they've started dragging this competition track. Let's hope they manage to pull back their audience in the nick of time.)

 
Anji is getting very good at hiding her secret rendevouz. The only think that I thought here was, Anji gets so very upset when people lie to her or when things are hidden from her. So should she not extend the same courtesy to others. For someone so against lying, you're getting pretty good at it. 
 
Since dadi's entrance a lot of people have been picking up on the similarities between Arnav and Dadi (me included), but today I noticed some similarities between Dadi and Anji too. They too think their ways are right and see what they want to see, dadi may be more vocal than Anji but I'm sure Anjali thinks there's nothing wrong with meeting Shyam. 
 

The rest of the episode was Arnav vs. Dadi:
 
If dadi did come of her own accord (without a little nudge from Shyam), I don't quite understand her eagerness to see her damad. Of course she will question where he is, but the constant badgering has made me suspicious.
 
Arnav the straight talker 'Kyunke main unhe, is ghar se, dhakhe mar ke bar nikal chuka hoon', no sugar coating there.
 
Dadi's double standards. You call your bahu weak, but was running away to an Ashram, ridding yourself of all your responsibilities a sign of strength?! It's clear from your words that your son was the apple of your eye, but does that mean that you overlook all his downfalls, and even expect others to? Appologies if I'm being to harsh, she just brings out the mean side of me! 
 
Arnav: I just want to run and give you a giant jadoo ki jhapphi man. Your pain was so evident in your conversation today. You just want to forget and move on...
 
Arnav not able to 'bardasht' a lot of things; Being compared to his dad, Shyam's name in the house, Insults of his mother - all understandable though
 
There was much more to this conversation, but don't have the energy to delve into it right now.
 
Their conversation was so intense my eyes were peeled the whole way through. Well done to Swati ji, as dadi you've made your mark in the show in such a small span of time. Clap
 
Other things:
- Aakash and Payal continued their love affair with Pink in matching his n her outfits. (sorry couldn't resist) LOL
- Mami knocked before entering Arnav's room, finally a knocker!! Thumbs Up
 
 
Slightly off topic but I was watching Salman Khan on Indian Idol today, and what is the first thing I noticed about Sallu bhai...he was wearing a chunky bracelet exactly like our Shyam - hai Shyam kyun teri yaad mujhe inta sataye?!
 
I'll end the post with my mum's take on Dadi Ji - 'eh ainvi apna haat ute kardi rendi ya'  LOL
 
That's all the coherent thoughts I can gather atm, just wanted to say a huge thank you to all my Redux buddies (you know who you are Wink). You gals have made me enjoy the show even more, which I didn't think was possible. More importantly you've got me digging deeper. A lot of love coming your way Hug
 
 
I'm never able to catch everyone online so thought I'd leave my appreciation for you all right here.
 
Sarunrocks - It's Divya right? I'm not to familiar with all the historical stories but your post gave a real depth to the episode.
 
Koel - Lovely short & sweet post. Particularly loved this line 'The brother learnt from the husband and shared it with his sister'
 
Vasiraju - Nice set of thoughts. I was laughing & blushing throughout the entire episode too.
 
Bushy - Oh Bushy what to say. You pick up on the smallest of details and your post causes a riot of laughter. I see you're still doubting Mr Pink's manhood. Bechara what will he have to do to convince you all?! LOL
 
Anna - With so much naughty behaviour from Arnav how could you not write?! Lovely post as usual, especially liked your section about the contract no longer holding and importance and their wholely acceptance of each other. 
 
Kopal - The following paragraph just was my absolute favourite
'Arnav and Khushi shared their first laughter together.. A laughter which took them to their own world.. A world where No One and Nothing existed except them! Nothing else mattered except that they had each other.. A laughter which echoed their happiness, their contentment, their love, their joy and their desires.. 
2 lost souls who found another kindred spirit and soul and were rejoicing at that UNION!'
 
Nazifa - I've already given you my feedback so I'll keep it short. Loved it!! Wink
 
Abavi - A lovely reacap of all the wonderful moments
 
Sandy - I couldn't concentrate on your post after that hilarious picture of Mami hahaha best shot of the epi! LOL
 
Ghausia - I've already told you how wonderful your post was. Well done for becoming a regular in Redux, but missy that doesn't mean you can neglect your personal statement Geek hehe
 
Cutebarun (sorry don't know your name) - your post had me laughing right from the start. All the way from 'channas of wisdom' to 'if 'PATI' has a 'BLUE TOOTH'... Then 'PATNI' has a 'HAIR CLIP'
 
Name Twin!! (Riti) - Amazing song and so appropriate
 
Jhalak - How do you even keep track of how many days its been? I totally lost all haush after yesterdays epi. Great post, this line was my fave 'A man who had smiled in years in presence of his cherished one lets go the shackes on his heart for a moment and this simple moment lets him loose with his love,'
 
Droopy Asleep - Great name btw, describes my state at all times! 'Besides the chemistry and the spark between the leads; I have to say, that the entire cast is just coming together so well; and today NK, Mami and Payal also stood out to me; they were great in their scenes...and we finally know that Payal and Akash have done something worthwhile, other than getting upset with each other :) ' This is exactly what I've been saying all week, these family orientated episodes are bringing back the old IPK magic.  
 
Chitmanas - 'Wish someone like NK existed in real life too to help us get out of sticky situations, especially when we need to face the boss's wrath ' - we all need an NK in our lives. Big smile
 
Lalsunvid - Really enjoyed your post, and agreed Khushi's big mouth is always getting her into trouble Tongue
 
Payasa - Bang on with dadi's description
 
Sampin - 'The episode..for me..will always be etched in my memory!!Not because of flirtatious Arnav,not because of the uninterrupted Arhi romance..But due to the fact that desire and boldness can be shown on Indian Television without succumbing to hokey means of depicting it!!An "in your face" episode lined with those subtle strokes of screenplaythat has always defined IPK!! ' - The creators really did a wonderful job with this episode, I too will remember it for a long long time.  
 
Sumana - 'I know Arnav is just having some fun watching Khushi get all flustered and shy at the thought of Suhaag raat...I know he will not touch her until she is ready for this...and that will happen only after they complete all the rituals'  - That's what makes him so perfect Day Dreaming
 
Shreya - Beautiful Beautiful Poem, I wish I had such a way with words.
 
Appu - Your conversation about Anji's tummy had me on the floor haha. You focused a lot on Anji in your post, did we gutter you out after the LU?! haha
 
Trin - Hilarious post! We all know that it's not going to happen and loved all the possible scenarios. 'Suhaag Shubha' Lmao!!!! ROFL
 
Shaz - Girl after my own heart. Your running commentary truly makes my day, and have no fear I will be joining you from next week Wink...sorry had to take a minute to compose myself, got distracted by the handsome devil winking at the top of your post.  
 
Joy - thank you!!! I look forward to reading your marathon posts one day soon
 
Sorry that's all the posts I managed to get through. Sincere apologies if I didn't get you yours but I'm sure they were all brilliant.  
 
 After skimming through all the pages of the last Redux, I read a lot of posts on the re-marriage not happening right now *shock shock horror horror*
 
Also a lot of posts on the upcoming 'nafraat' that's on its way - should've known. When Arnav laughs, bad things happen!! Cry


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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 12:36pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by .Ghausia.

Demoted to page 3 again! LOL
Sorry for poor formatting - I'm typing this from my iPod.

Bonjour guys! First off, thank you so much to all of those who liked my post! Special thanks to Anu, Riyya, Shreya, Sathya, Shastradhari, Areeba, Joy, Rits, Shaz, Sharmi for your lovely words, conversation and posts! Shaz, your guttery post has corrupted me! Embarrassed

Yesterday's post: http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3140225&PID=62660785&#62660785
On Monday I will try to highlight points that I liked in all of the Redux posts of today because I've never done that before and I owe it to you guys to appreciate your comments as much as you guys appreciate mine.

I haven't seen the episode yet, so this analysis will be based on the LUs I read. But we got a Dadi-Arnav face-off apparently and a sweet teasing moment between ArHi. Aww, maza aa gaya! We'll obviously have to wait and see what the 'suhaag raat' will be like and the contents of the suitcase. Our gutter minds have a whole weekend to operate now! LOL

I'm actually not going to analyse the episode; instead I want to share my theory of the past with you guys. This thought just suddenly emerged in my mind and it makes some sort of sense.

Okay, the following analysis is probably not going to be true as it is difficult to say where other characters, for example Chacha and Garima fit into the picture, as well as Nani, Dadi and Shyam. This is merely my theory on what could potentially have happened.

I will say this again - I almost certainly don't think the doosri aurat is Khushi's mother. Mainly because everyone talks about Khushi being a lovechild of the two of them and I completely disagree with a half-sibling relationship between ArHi! HOWEVER, it may be possible. Before I get tamaatars thrown at me, please hear me out. We all know that history tends to repeat itself in this show, right? Just the analysis I've done in the past few days proves this. So what if the Arnav-Khushi-Shyam-Anjali love triangle is a repeat of the past events? For the sake of this, Arnav & Khushi are representing Khushi's parents, and Anjali and Shyam are Arnav's parents. 'Arnav and Khushi' may have both been desperately in love and gotten married. They then had a baby. But 'Shyam' lusted after 'Khushi', despite being married to 'Anjali' and having two children of his own (remind you of anything? Anjali's expecting twins...). Shyam, being completely crazy over Khushi, may have wanted to kill Arnav so that he could leave Anjali and be with Khushi (or commit bigamy and be married to them both, intending for neither to discover the truth). But remember back to the kidnapping track, Shyam left Khushi for dead. He decided that if he couldn't have Khushi, no one could. So Shyam then arranged for an accident to take place, and both of them died in the accident. Shyam, unable to take the guilt and grief he felt after losing Khushi, committed suicide because he went crazy in his love for her. Anjali, unable to live without him, then committed suicide herself.

I'm in no way saying that history will repeat itself this time, but I couldn't help but notice the parallels. I think in a way what is happening now is an indication of what could have happened before; the truth could have come out and 'Shyam' could have been stopped before he went to such an extreme.

Please, if anyone has anything to add to this do let me know. I'd be very interested to read your theories and whether you feel any of the other characters would be able to slot in at all.

Have a great guttery weekend guys!
Ghausia

P.S. I've made some gifs of legendary Mami from yesterday's episode:
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3141124&PID=62708837&#62708837
& I've made some of ArHi falling and laughing too!
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3141124&PID=62713642&#62713642
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=3141124&PID=62713685&#62713685

Ghausia... we are on the celebrity pg 3...for all the juicy scoopsWink.. nice theory u pointed out... let's see what the creative team has in mind for us...

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