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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 10:42am | IP Logged
Originally posted by mommamia

Originally posted by Jhalak29

gals me joining you for some time, the past and prsent both are stories of half truth, everyone has a part of the truth and has his own perception to view it, Only khushi seems to accept that things need to be accepted and move ahead rather than healing urself concentrate on healing ppl arnd u n u will heal in the process do not cover and thats what will be happening here too... she is an outsider to raizadas N maliks and can be objective with them, how has she been affected in past will be seen later i guess
But Jhals lets not forget the ladies finger LOLLOL She is the base of this story.. 100% agreed .. she is the one who will blow the conch shell and wash out everyone's sin. redeeming everyone..
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Personally i felt two things today yes to an extent Arnav mother was weak that she committed suicide, no one shud do that under any circumstances
2) Arnav that time held his father responsible which led a greater guilt on SrMalik & he commited suicide too
3) past shuld be dealt to move in future rather than burying it

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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 10:42am | IP Logged
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no dear ASr bought back with his own money ..there is no ground for family property ...if family property came  as parental property to him...then its ok it is family wealth ..but but wen he bought it with his own money it won't stand as his parental wealth...and also illegal child has no right on family pro perty ...here ASR and di had no property indeed ...they ere thrown out of his own house ...
all property that ASR holds is his own property ..even di has no right ...only khushi has right ...
 
okay, but even if not property, what about public acknowledgement? 'illegitimate child' controversies can destroy reputations, as we saw with a certain Mr. Tiwari in India a few weeks agoLOL

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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 10:43am | IP Logged
Originally posted by sunshine99

Originally posted by namedx

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Originally posted by Chani123

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Originally posted by Arhimaniac

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Originally posted by pals13

Originally posted by mommamia

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who conked out first...mum or dad...??
i think it was mum who went first and then dadConfused
First Dad and then mom seeing him committing suicide killed heself

yaar..i thought...its mom first and then Dad...Confused
Hmmm.. It was mom first... 

Dad could not face what his actions have led to was the second... Unable to face his kids! 

And mom's actions triggered by dadi cos she must have blamed OW as coined by appu.. And told his DIL that she could not hold her husband and must have done something to force him away or loiter around! Angry

so as i said yesterday

dadi ka bhashan led to mummy pulling trigger for goli
That is why what he said to Khushi about dadi not able to see the truth..
K1.. Hi... I think arvav was right then.. And also today! 
K2 he is doing the same thing.. tht dadi did...she gave bhashan and mom killed herself... ASR threw out Shyam.. unilateral decision... and see what Anji is doing... because of that.. she rightly said... throwing Shyam is not the solution... 
Unilateral in what sense? His decision was for his di and his wife and his family? 
What dadi said u should have thought about your sisters pregnancy... He do consider that in his decision.. 
Dadi's and Anji thinking about what will happen to the baby once it's born.. Without the blessings or influence of his father.. Is backward thinking...

Asr and nani.. Both are of the belief that influence of a man like Shyam will cause more harm then good! 
He took the decision by himself.. he viewed the facts and passed the judgement..didnot bother to run thro' his family because he believed it was the right thing... I agree it was the right thing... but even then the people who are affected by it should be taken through the decision process...things should be thrashed out or else situations will keep blowing up on your face like Ani Shaym is about to do now...This is where the unilateral aspect of his and dadi's decision stem from.. which had far reaching unpleasant consequences...but this time the difference is that Anji is still alive and Shaym's actions are intentionally evil... ASR's past beliefs are being strengthened by the present circumstances... Dadi's understanding of the past events are making her see present circumstance with a colored vision ... both ASR and Dadi need rectification in their visions to let the past rest and the present to be amended.

I agree Koel. But presently she's running away from her past, completely in denial. So I fail to see how she's able to see things from a different perspective. The woman needs to acknowledge the past fully, her own dealings with it, before she can make Arnie understand. 
 Shaz.. th'ts the beauty of the story for me now... she is not in denial but is letting her knowledge of the past guide her... most imp.. fact the past has not completely unveiled itself.. so whether she is in denial or right  is a question mark right now...it is the beliefs of ASR and dadi clashing the churning/manthan phase..gradually leading  for each to see the truth as events unfold to distinguish the vish from the amrit and rectify their thoughts...

They're both stubborn as hell that's for sure, and none are willing to communicate their feelings properly to one another...And I think it's because of her equally stubborn nature, I don't quite see her as the guiding light, but as somewhat who chooses to remove themselves from the past - which currently is doing more damage than good! It seems her stay in the house is more connected  to the present state of affairs than it is in the past - hence why she refuses to talk about it.  
Obstinate as mules both grandma and grandson...LOL my way or the highway  and there is no middleroad...Tongue.. I meant she is using her knowledge of past events to guide her in the present .. she is forming her thoughts and ideas on the basis of the past and trying to make others agree to her view... She is stuck in the past... not for a single moment is she considering tht the present circumstances may be different than what happened in the past..she is hell bent on making the past events  fit  on to the  present situations...to prove a point to her grandson tht he was wrong in hating disapproving his dad... Interesting would be to see when she understands how she was played into believing the present is mirroring the past..[/QUOTE]
yes that would be the Drama qoutient of IPK, which will be unmatched


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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 10:44am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Chani123

Originally posted by sunshine99

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That is why what he said to Khushi about dadi not able to see the truth..
K1.. Hi... I think arvav was right then.. And also today! 
K2 he is doing the same thing.. tht dadi did...she gave bhashan and mom killed herself... ASR threw out Shyam.. unilateral decision... and see what Anji is doing... because of that.. she rightly said... throwing Shyam is not the solution... 
Unilateral in what sense? His decision was for his di and his wife and his family? 
What dadi said u should have thought about your sisters pregnancy... He do consider that in his decision.. 
Dadi's and Anji thinking about what will happen to the baby once it's born.. Without the blessings or influence of his father.. Is backward thinking...

Asr and nani.. Both are of the belief that influence of a man like Shyam will cause more harm then good! 
He took the decision by himself.. he viewed the facts and passed the judgement..didnot bother to run thro' his family because he believed it was the right thing... I agree it was the right thing... but even then the people who are affected by it should be taken through the decision process...things should be thrashed out or else situations will keep blowing up on your face like Ani Shaym is about to do now...This is where the unilateral aspect of his and dadi's decision stem from.. which had far reaching unpleasant consequences...but this time the difference is that Anji is still alive and Shaym's actions are intentionally evil... ASR's past beliefs are being strengthened by the present circumstances... Dadi's understanding of the past events are making her see present circumstance with a colored vision ... both ASR and Dadi need rectification in their visions to let the past rest and the present to be amended.

Yes he took the decision in his hand because he was forced to..
Remember when the truth of Shyam's involvement with Khushi came out, he wanted to take Anji out and discuss all this later.. But shyam wanted everything out in open cos if Anjali left and ppl started thinking back, he would have lost.. Tht day shyam was trying to sway them.. he was assessing everyone's reaction throughout,, 
ASR wanted to postpone it.. But he forced him to stay back which led to final confrontation and ultimately his kicking out..SMJ kept on lying and blaming Khushi for everything.. He could not stand it.. Not after all Khushi did... 

As far as Dadi is concerned, if today instead of telling him that he was wrong 14 yrs earlier, she would have accepted that she was at fault and saw only one aspect, i would have understood that she was rectifying her past mistakes.. BUt she has not changed an iota.. She is not willing to embrace her role in the past.. she can only see the OW..
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Lol Kopal, it seems we hold the same line of thought with regards to this! LOL

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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 10:49am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Jhalak29

gals me joining you for some time, the past and prsent both are stories of half truth, everyone has a part of the truth and has his own perception to view it, Only khushi seems to accept that things need to be accepted and move ahead rather than healing urself concentrate on healing ppl arnd u n u will heal in the process do not cover and thats what will be happening here too... she is an outsider to raizadas N maliks and can be objective with them, how has she been affected in past will be seen later i guess

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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 10:50am | IP Logged
Originally posted by mommamia

Originally posted by Supna9

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God forgive me 100th times. Its mean Asr parents r so much weak in phsyc n heart n mind they only thought about them nt 4 their children that what would be their status what can i say them selfish selfless

SuppyHugI was thinking abt you yesterday.. 2 din se dekha nahi...Yes they are weak minded people. That is why ASR is hell bent on proving his dad wrong

hi sandy hehehe yeah 4 sum days i ll be here or ll nt be.
Ok lets father ko keep a side but mother i just m unable . Mothers tou think about their children hw can asr then feels about her mother he can say maa baap ne hamara khayal nahi kya bhari dunya humain be asra n be sayeban kar dya kam se kam ap tou hamara khayal karti ap tou maa thi jo husband k bhaigr tou reh sakti hain laikin agr un se un k bachey chinn jayain tou wo be maut mar jati hain. Nw i m feeling more pain 4 arnav a son that loves her mother inn sab k bawajood

For Arnav its the cause of her death that is important. She committed Suicide because of her husband . And he holds his dad responsible for that. For him everything would have been fine, had his dad not committedadultery.. Basically its perception Suppy.. The more we dig the more questions we get and the more judgement we pass.. So we have to draw a line some where..and take a stand.. What do you say

sandy in real life i saw 2 types of mothers
1 lives 4 her husband
2nd lives 4 their children
when i heard that dialouge of arnav i felt.
man are these pages flying are what.. I am not able to follow Koelia-Shaaz-Kopal discussion.. Anu Rao questions, Sumi's thoughts.. Sampin powerful analysis..Indigo's dhamakedaar answers..  I am getting lost.. We are REDUXIANS are we!!

Same here Sandy...I am totally lost with the speed redux is moving...its faster than the morning session too...

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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 10:52am | IP Logged
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K2 he is doing the same thing.. tht dadi did...she gave bhashan and mom killed herself... ASR threw out Shyam.. unilateral decision... and see what Anji is doing... because of that.. she rightly said... throwing Shyam is not the solution... 
Unilateral in what sense? His decision was for his di and his wife and his family? 
What dadi said u should have thought about your sisters pregnancy... He do consider that in his decision.. 
Dadi's and Anji thinking about what will happen to the baby once it's born.. Without the blessings or influence of his father.. Is backward thinking...

Asr and nani.. Both are of the belief that influence of a man like Shyam will cause more harm then good! 
He took the decision by himself.. he viewed the facts and passed the judgement..didnot bother to run thro' his family because he believed it was the right thing... I agree it was the right thing... but even then the people who are affected by it should be taken through the decision process...things should be thrashed out or else situations will keep blowing up on your face like Ani Shaym is about to do now...This is where the unilateral aspect of his and dadi's decision stem from.. which had far reaching unpleasant consequences...but this time the difference is that Anji is still alive and Shaym's actions are intentionally evil... ASR's past beliefs are being strengthened by the present circumstances... Dadi's understanding of the past events are making her see present circumstance with a colored vision ... both ASR and Dadi need rectification in their visions to let the past rest and the present to be amended.

I agree Koel. But presently she's running away from her past, completely in denial. So I fail to see how she's able to see things from a different perspective. The woman needs to acknowledge the past fully, her own dealings with it, before she can make Arnie understand. 
 Shaz.. th'ts the beauty of the story for me now... she is not in denial but is letting her knowledge of the past guide her... most imp.. fact the past has not completely unveiled itself.. so whether she is in denial or right  is a question mark right now...it is the beliefs of ASR and dadi clashing the churning/manthan phase..gradually leading  for each to see the truth as events unfold to distinguish the vish from the amrit and rectify their thoughts...

They're both stubborn as hell that's for sure, and none are willing to communicate their feelings properly to one another...And I think it's because of her equally stubborn nature, I don't quite see her as the guiding light, but as somewhat who chooses to remove themselves from the past - which currently is doing more damage than good! It seems her stay in the house is more connected  to the present state of affairs than it is in the past - hence why she refuses to talk about it.  
[/QUOTE]Obstinate as mules both grandma and grandson...LOL my way or the highway  and there is no middleroad...Tongue.. I meant she is using her knowledge of past events to guide her in the present .. she is forming her thoughts and ideas on the basis of the past and trying to make others agree to her view... She is stuck in the past... not for a single moment is she considering tht the present circumstances may be different than what happened in the past..she is hell bent on making the past events  fit  on to the  present situations...to prove a point to her grandson tht he was wrong in hating disapproving his dad... Interesting would be to see when she understands how she was played into believing the present is mirroring the past..[/QUOTE]

The red ones mean.. That  shyam is behind her entry???

Or is she so stuck up in her views that she cannot bear that Arnav is not forgiving his father and still holds him responsible for the past?? She cannot see that he is not agreeing to her even after 14 years... 

She once again has become the judge and jury herself.. 

She is one control freak IMO..Angry

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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 10:53am | IP Logged
STOP PLZ STOP U ALL
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STOP ! DANGER

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