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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 10:23am | IP Logged
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Kopal.. I think Shyam is Karna here.. He is victim too.. But what he did to Khushi is beyond redemption. I am talking about his vengeance. He wants his nephew(s)/Niece(s) acceptance and justice. So might be we will see him given a chance to redeem. Not I am not telling this because I am Abhaas die hard fan.. Its just with Doods track layout
 
Karna's main greviance was being discriminated against because he was a charioteer...and Duryodhan's main greivance was also losing out on the kingdom that would have been his if his father had been a healthy man...both were victim of circumstances, and both always fought for their birthright...Shyam is more of a Duryodhan, who thought it was okay to use deceit because in a way the Pandavas seemed to have deceived his blind father of his kingdom too...I don't think Shyam deserves redemption as an adulterer, but he deserves redemption if it is his nephew's birthright he is fighting for...
Actually Shyam is also a victim of circumstances here.. We really dont know what he has been fed.. Chacha ji is Shakuni who is the main villain in this story. As I said absolutely I agree what he did with Khushi and Anji is unpardonable. I loathe him for that. But regarding property I understand his stance..

how could dear ..property belongs toASR only even di has no right ...for it is result of ASR' s hardship and not family wealth...

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she is a rigid person who till date believes that her son might not be at fault...as she feels arnav was at fault...what i cant understand is what did arnav do at 14 yrs of age???Confused

\anyways...diya and bati promotion for promoting vege eating was to garner  TRPs...and attracting the aunty base that watches the show as they might get happy that their dearest suraj is being promoted...that is the only theory i could come up with...LOL

@bold: thik usi tarah jis tarah Khushi at the age of 8 is responsible to Arnav's dark past!Ouch

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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 10:24am | IP Logged
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who conked out first...mum or dad...??
i think it was mum who went first and then dadConfused
First Dad and then mom seeing him committing suicide killed heself

yaar..i thought...its mom first and then Dad...Confused
Hmmm.. It was mom first... 

Dad could not face what his actions have led to was the second... Unable to face his kids! 

And mom's actions triggered by dadi cos she must have blamed OW as coined by appu.. And told his DIL that she could not hold her husband and must have done something to force him away or loiter around! Angry

so as i said yesterday

dadi ka bhashan led to mummy pulling trigger for goli
That is why what he said to Khushi about dadi not able to see the truth..
K1.. Hi... I think arvav was right then.. And also today! 
K2 he is doing the same thing.. tht dadi did...she gave bhashan and mom killed herself... ASR threw out Shyam.. unilateral decision... and see what Anji is doing... because of that.. she rightly said... throwing Shyam is not the solution... 
Unilateral in what sense? His decision was for his di and his wife and his family? 
What dadi said u should have thought about your sisters pregnancy... He do consider that in his decision.. 
Dadi's and Anji thinking about what will happen to the baby once it's born.. Without the blessings or influence of his father.. Is backward thinking...

Asr and nani.. Both are of the belief that influence of a man like Shyam will cause more harm then good! 
He took the decision by himself.. he viewed the facts and passed the judgement..didnot bother to run thro' his family because he believed it was the right thing... I agree it was the right thing... but even then the people who are affected by it should be taken through the decision process...things should be thrashed out or else situations will keep blowing up on your face like Ani Shaym is about to do now...This is where the unilateral aspect of his and dadi's decision stem from.. which had far reaching unpleasant consequences...but this time the difference is that Anji is still alive and Shaym's actions are intentionally evil... ASR's past beliefs are being strengthened by the present circumstances... Dadi's understanding of the past events are making her see present circumstance with a colored vision ... both ASR and Dadi need rectification in their visions to let the past rest and the present to be amended.

I agree Koel. But presently she's running away from her past, completely in denial. So I fail to see how she's able to see things from a different perspective. The woman needs to acknowledge the past fully, her own dealings with it, before she can make Arnie understand. 
[/QUOTE]  Shaz.. th'ts the beauty of the story for me now... she is not in denial but is letting her knowledge of the past guide her... most imp.. fact the past has not completely unveiled itself.. so whether she is in denial or right  is a question mark right now...it is the beliefs of ASR and dadi clashing the churning/manthan phase..gradually leading  for each to see the truth as events unfold to distinguish the vish from the amrit and rectify their thoughts...

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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 10:24am | IP Logged
Hi friendsHug,

Sorry for this long absence, husband unwell. Now here for a short while. 
What's the discussion? Couple of things i want to mention...I have strong gut feeling that Dadi has been sent by Shyam..Shyam must have sold her a story and asked her to take the reigns of family as Arnav is spoiling it. Second, Is ganesh hegde out? Yesterday's episode said screenplay by creative team!! His name isnt thereShocked

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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 10:25am | IP Logged
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Kopal.. I think Shyam is Karna here.. He is victim too.. But what he did to Khushi is beyond redemption. I am talking about his vengeance. He wants his nephew(s)/Niece(s) acceptance and justice. So might be we will see him given a chance to redeem. Not I am not telling this because I am Abhaas die hard fan.. Its just with Doods track layout
 
Karna's main greviance was being discriminated against because he was a charioteer...and Duryodhan's main greivance was also losing out on the kingdom that would have been his if his father had been a healthy man...both were victim of circumstances, and both always fought for their birthright...Shyam is more of a Duryodhan, who thought it was okay to use deceit because in a way the Pandavas seemed to have deceived his blind father of his kingdom too...I don't think Shyam deserves redemption as an adulterer, but he deserves redemption if it is his nephew's birthright he is fighting for...
Actually Shyam is also a victim of circumstances here.. We really dont know what he has been fed.. Chacha ji is Shakuni who is the main villain in this story. As I said absolutely I agree what he did with Khushi and Anji is unpardonable. I loathe him for that. But regarding property I understand his stance..
 
For all we know, even Shakuni was simply concerned about the future of his nephews and thought he was avenging his sister...the Mahabharata is full of characters who paid for the sins of others...simply because nobody could say 'Enough, let all the greivances be forgotten'...there were too many Dadis and Maamis and Shyams and Anjalis who kept forcing the same cycle through and through...the very reason the Mahabharata was narrated because one of the descendants of Krishna was committing the same mistake his ancestors had done...I don't think Khushi has any connection to ASR or Shyam...rather she is a Devi Maiyya personified who might cleanse the Raizadas of their sin and end the cycle once and for all...

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