Phir Subah Hogi

India-Forums

   
Phir Subah Hogi
Phir Subah Hogi

Aditya Sugni jodi further confirmed (Page 3)

pyar-ishk IF-Stunnerz
pyar-ishk
pyar-ishk

Joined: 14 May 2009
Posts: 30883

Posted: 10 August 2012 at 6:55am | IP Logged
Originally posted by eastmeetswest

To the moderator.  I fully support your motive. I cannot see a person being betrayed and lied to and calling it love. Whatever vikram's love , i would never trust such a person. furthtermore he is MARRIED, that puts sug in the same position she is running from. that is not romance. I agree the story is about sug, being for one woman man with no baggage of ex, mad wife etc, her dreams, her goals and endeavours to making it a reality,  ignoring and conquering the old tranished traditions,her strength, her dignity, self respect, her mother's approvals and support, its about empowering the woman, not degrading her or making her settle for the crumbs it should show how she has evolved by gettting on her feet.


Oh really, so all those couples on screen that lied to there husbands, wives, boyfriend & girlfriend for there protection or for the betterment of there family there love isn't real? So when the other half find out the partner has been lying he / she should understand there other half don't love them so they should divorce or break relation?

Life isn't black and white it has grey shades, if everybody live on the straight and narrow we won't be on earth we will be in heaven. Since we're not angels but humans beings with flaws we have find ways to forgive not condemn.

 Nobody here is excusing Vik lie or fault Sugni for leaving him and was his own doing he shouldn't have lied but to say his love isn't worthy cause he lied is just crazy.

God forgive us everyday for sinning and people want to out cast somebody cause he lied D'oh Vik character is closest to real life you can get cause all those pavitra hero's on screen don't exist.

As for the marriage those plans were made before he find out the wife is alive and now that truth is out Sugni made her decision. That is what I wanted that a person should always be given the freedom to make there own decisions and no one have the right to have it taken which Vik was trying to do for Sugni


The following 5 member(s) liked the above post:

widdyJulieDstephhhLaila2009-rupa-

Laila2009 IF-Rockerz
Laila2009
Laila2009

Joined: 27 October 2009
Posts: 7552

Posted: 10 August 2012 at 7:03am | IP Logged
Originally posted by atria

Originally posted by sdias

They actually spun a tale to fit in with the theme: BEDINIS. This is actually from what I see - a story of the lifestyle and plight of the Bedini community in India. Where they are today. What they have become. Who they are and what they think. What the people in their lives do to them. And then the new aspect of the new generation that is fighting to get out of this mess - the stigma of being called a Bedini for life and dancing for a Thakur hoping he'd do her Sardhakai for her living.
This story is therefore focused on the life of one particular Bedini and the life of this community is told to us through the eyes of a Bedini called Sugni.
Sugni has a dream - she wants to change her role in life. Become a woman who can marry without simply falling short of it. And of  course their lives revolve around not only their own community but also that of the Thakurs - because of whom they continue this Rai.
This story as I see it tries to personify the life of a Bedini and how those wanting to get out of it fight hard but might lose at times but then become stronger and challenge themselves more to move ahead in life. And most of all this strength that is there in them is because of Phir Subah Hogi: that one day their dreams of a thousand nights known only too well by the silent stars of the night, would become a reality.
So while Sugni and Vickram looked great together (and I preferred it too) this story I believe tries to tell what happens to Sugni and a differently thinking Thakur and how her life changed because of him and the strength she built up in herself to face her future and if she marries Adi then how she would live with this new person in her life.
Guys always concentrate on the title PHIR SUBAH HOGI - this helps to clarify what the story is about - its not about any jodi or a thakur its all about a bedini about to change her life so she could live her dream.


Agreed that the theme might be the life of bedinis. But just the theme does not make a serial. The different characters, actors, dialogues, screenplay etc all play a part. And yes the jodis play a part also. If not they could have shown the struggle of a woman by herself, but the romance angle is necessary so that it doesn't become a documentary. So the jodi, and the thakurs (as complementary to the bedinis) are both required.

Regarding future storyline... By putting SugVi together, the bedini story could be continued as well, her acceptance as a thakurain won't come just with TVS but with the whole society accepting her, and there was plenty of other stories to be carried out there, like clashes with other thakurs like Jwala Singh. At this point joining her to Adi in fact would be more of a standard triangular love story especially if TVS turns negative. That could happen with any woman, not just a bedini. So if the story is about just a bedini then actually the Adi angle does not make much sense to me.

I think my biggest crib is the inconsistency in the storyline and characters. Sugni has been fairly consistent but the other characters are sometimes hard to recognize. They showed TVS as a strong, principled, egoistical man, then in the Reva case, he is shown depending on Dhanuma of all people, and just not taking a decision for days on end till literally forced to do so. Really? Right or wrong, the original TVS would have taken a decision, not gone with the flow as this one has.  Adi had a strong dislike of bedinis that simply disappeared with his father's ashes. Moreover, he had a strong dislike of Sugni for other reasons, and now he is the one championing her cause, insulting his mamaji (whom he revered earlier) left right and center. Gulabiya was shown as a rather oppressed woman, who, though she has principles, has never quite dared to stand up for them, even when her daughter was nearly raped, or when her family was starved by the thakurs. Now suddenly she is fighting TVS like a tigress. From being impoverished and starved, she is going around in taxis doing detective work. Other interesting characters have simply been dropped. TJS and his family are out of the picture, the rivalry between TVS and TJS and Sugni's confrontation with her father have never been fully explored.There was one scene between Kuhu and TJS son, now Kuhu has been reduced to some sort of messenger in the house. Amrita, from a confident woman, has been reduced to an insecure one, and now has been sent off to Delhi so she's not there to remind Adi he has a fiancee. Everything seems to be hurried just to force Adi Sugni together, and as a viewer I can barely recognize the show I started watching.
Excellent post and I have to say a very well argued one.  The romance angle can add the "fluff" to the story but should not be the core and that is exactly what is happening here...the TVS-Sugni-Aditya is what this show is about and it just happens to be with Bedinis as opposed to some girl from Punjab running away to England Wink It does not make this show unique when it takes that stand.
 
You are spot on with your observations and I too agree that this is show is a far cry from what I used to watch in the beginning. The characters have changed so drastically and I too agree that it is done to promote the Sugni Aditya jodi...sending Amrita off to Delhi was the finally step..and the writers will even forget about her as well in order to make this romance happen.
 
I caught a glimpse of the pre-cap with TVS unshaven, sad and forlorn and thought, goodness he's a far cry from the character they presented to us. If he was supposed to be such a bad guy, then why even bother to make us like him? No-one has such a 180 personality and if he did, then they should have done a better job of creating someone who could change like that - it's not believable. The same can be said regarding the changes in personality with all the other characters...just not believeable.

The following 3 member(s) liked the above post:

Sandy66atriaJulieD

Laila2009 IF-Rockerz
Laila2009
Laila2009

Joined: 27 October 2009
Posts: 7552

Posted: 10 August 2012 at 7:06am | IP Logged
Originally posted by pyar-ishk

Originally posted by eastmeetswest

To the moderator.  I fully support your motive. I cannot see a person being betrayed and lied to and calling it love. Whatever vikram's love , i would never trust such a person. furthtermore he is MARRIED, that puts sug in the same position she is running from. that is not romance. I agree the story is about sug, being for one woman man with no baggage of ex, mad wife etc, her dreams, her goals and endeavours to making it a reality,  ignoring and conquering the old tranished traditions,her strength, her dignity, self respect, her mother's approvals and support, its about empowering the woman, not degrading her or making her settle for the crumbs it should show how she has evolved by gettting on her feet.


Oh really, so all those couples on screen that lied to there husbands, wives, boyfriend & girlfriend for there protection or for the betterment of there family there love isn't real? So when the other half find out the partner has been lying he / she should understand there other half don't love them so they should divorce or break relation?

Life isn't black and white it has grey shades, if everybody live on the straight and narrow we won't be on earth we will be in heaven. Since we're not angels but humans beings with flaws we have find ways to forgive not condemn.

 Nobody here is excusing Vik lie or fault Sugni for leaving him and was his own doing he shouldn't have lied but to say his love isn't worthy cause he lied is just crazy.

God forgive us everyday for sinning and people want to out cast somebody cause he lied D'oh Vik character is closest to real life you can get cause all those pavitra hero's on screen don't exist.

As for the marriage those plans were made before he find out the wife is alive and now that truth is out Sugni made her decision. That is what I wanted that a person should always be given the freedom to make there own decisions and no one have the right to have it taken which Vik was trying to do for Sugni


Thank you for an excellent response...goodness I am overwhelmed at the harshness I am witnessing towards lovers who lie. While I am not condoning such behavior, it does happen even with the best of people and intentions. It's the worst thing we can do as it does destroy a relationship.  But even the best of relationships have come back to life...that's why we have marriage and family counseling Smile
ronshaan IF-Sizzlerz
ronshaan
ronshaan

Joined: 04 May 2006
Posts: 24715

Posted: 10 August 2012 at 7:55am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Laila2009

On  June 15
 
BTW, if Aditya and Sugni are so wonderful a jodi (and the CVs think it will be so popular), then why is there no FB page with them or any FB page promoting this jodi?


I must say ... I am not going to promote adi sugni pair 4 me is the bad idea and the bad news for us SUGVI fans !!!
if they wanted to show vikram is evil they had to do it b4...\

who doesn't lie ??? they behave like he has killed somebody ... yes he was married trying to save his love and he said one thing...if i leave reva ... then ill b the great ?


I just think that - He can leave reva divorce her and take care of her after divorce... why not people do that... !!!


Edited by ronshaan - 10 August 2012 at 7:56am

The following 3 member(s) liked the above post:

Sandy66ForeverSHINeestephhh

ronshaan IF-Sizzlerz
ronshaan
ronshaan

Joined: 04 May 2006
Posts: 24715

Posted: 10 August 2012 at 7:59am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Laila2009

Originally posted by zeezee55

Forget the jodi for now can you?  I agree with the moderator - this is about Sugni coming out as a woman... coming to terms with life ... striking out as an independent woman... it is the maturing of Sugni. 
 
Frankly i would like to see Sugni be her own woman.  So far she's been mesmerised by TVS and was spouting what TVS have been telling her.  She has forgotten her dreams to break the bedni tradition... marriage to a Thakur is not the way out. 
 
I would like to see Sugni making her dreams to break the bedni tradition come true.  For her to gain the respect of society through her efforts.
 
You go girl... forget the romance for now... go for your dreams - they can be a reality... you will see...
 
Once you have achieved the respect of society ... then perhaps you can marry a Thakur... but which?  :)
Asking me to forget this jodi? Well of course that would come from someone who does not like the SugnvI jodi. I  guess you and I are watching another show or as you have claimed that it is not a jodi that you care about or want in this show.  Perhaps the Aditya-Sugni jodi is more to your liking. You and I know that this show is ABOUT this jodi...it is NOTHING about Sugni becoming an independent woman. The writers did way with that storyline three months ago...the story is about her and Aditya getting together in the end...her becoming her own woman is just a claim that the writers are making and thta will NEVER happen. 
 


the idea b4 was that aditiya will come and save her not sugni to save her self...

they 4got the idea and want us too do so
stephhh IF-Rockerz
stephhh
stephhh

Joined: 09 January 2009
Posts: 7035

Posted: 10 August 2012 at 10:12am | IP Logged
this doesn't confirm that adi sugni will b shown as a jodi n love will start between them. The moderator of that PSH isn't part of the PSH CVs or writing team. He/she has nothing to do with the storyline and I am sure he/she isnt aware of future track either. Mod is solely expressing his/her own opinion regarding the choices and mayb he/she is himself/herself a adi fan so wanna see him hve the pairing wth sugni. I think its immature for mod of the page to support one side while there is strong favor in support of sugvi. I also dont like mod pressing like of those cmnts supporting adi sugni and criticizing ones who doesn't
In future we will definitely see sugvi again...not adi sugni...and now reva sugni friendship, sugni will b more near to vikram not adi...I dont think adi is tht important character than vikram is.
speaking of vik turning evil...well we hve passed the hard time when he cud b shown as a negative but till date there is no such sign...so I hve firm believe TVS wont turn negative

*CHEERS*
stephhh IF-Rockerz
stephhh
stephhh

Joined: 09 January 2009
Posts: 7035

Posted: 10 August 2012 at 10:16am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Laila2009

 
BTW, if Aditya and Sugni are so wonderful a jodi (and the CVs think it will be so popular), then why is there no FB page with them or any FB page promoting this jodi?


yes true...valid point./...there is FB page of sugvi and apart from there in other PSH pages, there is strong fan base n support for SugVi Heart

seemasr Senior Member
seemasr
seemasr

Joined: 10 August 2012
Posts: 546

Posted: 10 August 2012 at 11:03am | IP Logged
I agree with Ronshaan.
they are behaving as if vik killed someone.He lied b coz he dint want to loose sug..and if adi wont get riva back Vik would have make Riva to divorce him or something to be separate from her.
In one episode adi(old 1) was telling her mom to consider amu as her future bahu b coz he sees his future wife in her.now suddenly he changed.is not that bad?
and they are comparing vik as ravan and adi as ram...seriously guys...pathetic...
 

The following 1 member(s) liked the above post:

stephhh

Go to top

Forum Quick Jump

Forum Category / Channels
Forums

Phir Subah Hogi Topic Index

  • Please login to check your Last 10 Topics posted

Check these Celebrity also

Disclaimer: All Logos and Pictures of various Channels, Shows, Artistes, Media Houses, Companies, Brands etc. belong to their respective owners, and are used to merely visually identify the Channels, Shows, Companies, Brands, etc. to the viewer. Incase of any issue please contact the webmaster.

Popular Channels :
Star Plus | Zee TV | Sony TV | Colors TV | SAB TV | Life OK

Quick Links :
Top 100 TV Celebrities | Top 100 Bollywood Celebs | About Us | Contact Us | Advertise | Forum Index