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9/8 Dragon Club: Joru ka Ghulam, Finally! (Page 36)

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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 7:22am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Samanalyse

I will believe she truly wants him to love her back in the fullest sense, only when she wants him to accept her with her past. Until then, I am convinced that she is quite content with her Mira-esque, one sided, love where the only purpose of her actions is to make him the happy person he once was.


Ditto that. Star

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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 7:22am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Charishma

@jyoti: Sorry lol. I was in crisis mode and threw out an S.O.S call here. It was touch and go for a bit. But now I'm A OkayDancing. Wow, I think I really have lost my mind. 
I can understand re .. its like when your most fav show goes haywire , u just dunno where to vent out OuchOuch... LOL

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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 7:28am | IP Logged
@Jyo: Clap Clap Clap Clap Clap   Awesome!!! The Pushpak flashback was spot on. So many movies/serials have tried to copy that thence, but somehow no one could come close to Kamal Hasan.


@Samana, Jyo, Red, Kirthi, Ria, Charishma, Phal: Wonderful viewpoints, dear friends. I missed the peak hour again...Unhappy ...but thoroughly enjoyed everyone's opinionsBig smile.

I really believe Aarti is not working on any plan here. The only plan is to make Yash happy and make him smile again. She is just taking it as it comes...When an opening arises, she grabs it and then plays along. While doing so, she can't help reveling in her love. So, sometimes it looks as if she is being deliberate in her efforts...the pottery and the bangle scenes...where Yash follows up at her lead, and sometimes he takes the initiative himself, the dining table and the shopping trip scenes. But nowhere do I see an unwilling Yash. He likes being around her...likes her bachpana, howmuchsoever he might shake his head and pooh-pooh it vocally. Her blow-hot, blow-cold behavior has caught his attention big time...there's no doubt. 

As for Aarti, she has started preempting his reactions...which means she reads him well. So, in order to involve him more she is sometimes creating openings, like the bangle one...Like Ria and Samana, I too don't think she is expecting any return feeling. More than anyone else, currently, she is the only one who knows the depth of Yash's attachment with Arpita. That's why, Yash's reactions borne out of his attraction to her surprise her. Like Red mentioned, about her Arpita-like pose with bangled hands...maybe she wanted to follow Arpita there, but she closed up the moment Yash turned. It was evident that she is not ready yet...although if she had seen, she would have noticed Yash take a step back to peek through. 

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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 7:31am | IP Logged
@Veena : These things depends on the CVs .. how they want the character to feel or act or react to these situations Ermm...Ram married at a very later age , so he knows how to live without Priya too ..  whereas Yash married at a very early age , he dunno how to live without a wife in this case LOLLOL... so different characterisation in a way Embarrassed
 
 
@Samana : I agree that Aarti wanting to b loved is right now the last in her priority list .. she is actually more into fulfilling Sasuma's promise of making Yash normal which she feels is possible only when he comes out of Arpita depression and accepts her as his wife Ermm,..But she too needs love , she too thirsts for getting loved by her man  but somewhere it has taken a backseat now with the promise she has given to Gayatri I feel ...

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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 7:35am | IP Logged
@Indu: Yeah I don't think its a plan per se. Its more like, verbal demands that find their way into her subconscious and influence her interactions with Yash.

I guess she does want to bask in his attention a bit. There's always a stage where you just throw yourself headlong into it just because it feels so wonderful.
But I do think G3's demands and Aarti's "I will love you from afar" complex are at work. Even if just a little. She definitely does not expect reciprocation. 

Edited by Charishma - 10 August 2012 at 7:44am

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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 7:36am | IP Logged
@Indu : My only dilemma is Aarti is wanting to make Yash smile because of the promise she made to Gayatri or because she genuinely wants to see a normal smiling Yash Scindia again Embarrassed...tomorrow if Yash finds out about these secret phone calls of Aarti to Gayatri , then he might ask the same question to Aarti .. what will she say then ?? Confused...Aarti is not planning anything for sure but whether her motto to see Yash smile is a part of a plan with her Sasuma or her own decision is what Aarti herself needs to question to her own self Ermm

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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 7:43am | IP Logged
@Jyo: You get better and better every day! You made poor Pankaj gay? Is that why Vidhi keeps resisting him, telling him not to fool himself and her? Felt bad for the poor, confused choodiwalah too. I LOVE how you brought around Yash's new hate of strawberries... I was wondering how you would work that out, as you know.

@Charishma: Yay! Some agreement is nice after I just wrote a long post in response to all the dissent. I don't think that Aarti is ready for her feelings to be reciprocated and even if they were, she would be totally defensive and all, WHEN did I encourage this?

I loved your description of the two Aartis and after you define it like that, it makes a lot more sense how precisely she has been executing this underlying plan of hers. I totally agree that she is being the Aarti that she thinks Yash can fall in love with, and that can draw Yash out of his memories, and I refuse to concede that she is not playing doctor every step of the way, barring the bra scene, as you said. She has seen him naked (almost), she knows almost all the nitty grittis about his past and she constantly tries to use it to make him come out of his shell. But he gets one peep into her "inner workings" and she goes ballistic on him? That doesn't seem fair.

But unfortunately, Yash dug his own grave in that confrontation at the market. He was totally allowed to be annoyed that she was behaving like a typical biwi and bossing him around, but he made the mistake of bringing Arpita into it, which overshadowed Aarti's bossiness in the injustice department. She hung onto that line, gave him a much needed verbal bashing and he had to apologise. But if he hadn't brought up Arpita, that conversation could have had a very different meaning and a very different reaction from all of us viewers, where we might just have been cheering on Yash instead of Aarti.

@Indu: I agree that Aarti does not have a play by play type of plan, but I do think she has an overarching goal, and is leaving it up to fate to decide how she achieves it. She is not really the type to plan things in advance. She sets a goal and works with the circumstances to achieve it, which is what I think she is doing here. I do believe that Gayatri's words are in the back of her mind at all times though. I am just curious how this whole episode of her treating Yash like a petulant child is going to end, with Yash hopefully exerting his presence as an adult and her equal in maturity.

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Posted: 10 August 2012 at 7:46am | IP Logged
@Jyo: Before she gave that vachan to Gayatri, Aarti had had that convo with Shobha, in which she tells Shobha that she wants to see a smiling Yash during this trip, and that will be her main focus. So, clearly, that was always her primary desire. Therefore, on the face of that, phone calls to Gayatri become just routine situation reports...something she is doing out of duty.

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