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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 7:42pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Jayne

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Maverick,

I feel you.
The first 5 months or so of the show were so good precisely because we had really only one villain and everyone else was, more or less, good (maami included).
I didn't much care for presenting La as good only when she was 'domesticated' in an ideal 'Indian buhoo' way, but I overlooked it and concentrated on the 'happy' feeling the show gave me.
Not anymore.
There is really not one character who is chipper, happy, and generally good - apart from NK and he gets one nod, one wink, one line at best.
No one is truly good anymore - not Anjuli, not naani, not paayull, not even people in the GH (who amazingly never worried about their due rent!)

I am not necessarily sure that pain glues viewers to the TV.
We all were glued to it for the joy earlier, now its a complete drag.
I get that TRP auntys must like that pain, but even they are showing that they don't care for it on months on end.
They like their heroines to have the Happily Ever After and ours hasn't seen any light on the horizon yet.
You expressed my sentiments exactly regarding the PH and writers.
We can expect no hope from that quarter.

Jayne

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This "walking away" from what made them a hit in the first place is what is bothering me.  If you look at the 185 epis, none of them are this NEGATIVE in IF forum language.

Nothing in what they are showing can have a "positive" end.  Even now, we get a bit entertained when they show Arnav trying to make Khushi happy.  But these morons dont seem to understand the concept of "Happiness".

Cheers.

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 7:49pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by AyeReKhushi

Originally posted by Didikisaut

TRP never slipped below 2.6 in kidnapping track, 2.5 is the lowest 2 weeks ago 

You know people are desperate when they start making up lies. It tells me I hit a nerve by telling the bitter truth LOL

But its all good because they make me look smart. Its not very smart to lie and say TRPs were 2.0 during "Khushi's comedy"...one can easily look up the TRPs on IF during March/April...it never dropped below 2.8...certainly not anything close to 2.0. So please think first otherwise you end up looking foolish. I expect silence now.

Manal, you left the thread at a good time...I'm out too. Nice talking to the rest of you girls!

Hehehe...I had to leave and take a break...I had been ranting on and on and on...
Exactly...the truth is always bitter...
I just wanna say one more thing people...It's not about supporting your favorite character, it's about supporting the one who is right...
I love ASR...he is and will always be my favorite...but that doesn't mean I support him even when he is wrong...
If tomorrow Khushi does something wrong..I will say what is it that I have against her...
And tomorrow if ASR is right...I will support him too...
In this situation Khushi is clearly the victim who has been tortured...misunderstood and snatched off of her dignity...Thus, I supported her and so did many others...
OK...folks...that's all I had to say...
Bye and take care..

Manal <3


Edited by -Manal.A- - 07 August 2012 at 7:56pm

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 7:52pm | IP Logged
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I can feel what u r saying...specialy  your this line " I am beginning to realize that I was way better off watching American TV than these Indian shows.  The whole show is going to hell in a hand basket and their way of reviving it is "introducing and old hag that is going to insult and torture the most lovable character in the entire show"."

Now coming to your point I also do not understand the basic idea of indian television...Why they always try to entertain people with sorrow, sadness, humiliation...I think the problems lie in the society which contributes to trp...we are not the people who contributes to trp...people who watch in India are so frustated/fedup with their life when they see someone in TV who is suffering more than them find peace...Now dont think this is because they want someone to be unhappy this is because they are happy to see that their life is much better than the character they are watching (be it fictional)...This is my thinking behind all this crap going on in Indian TV...

This is the only indian serial I watch and I became addicted to it because the way it was...yesterday I felt very disappointed with the saas bahu drama and also thought I am in a wrong lane that I am watching this serial which is just like another saas bahu SP serial...but I am already madly in love with this serial and today I loved ASR so continuing to watch it...But I already mentioned in my previous posts in this thread the pain which have seen in ASr last year for Khushi and the intensity of his character is missing...

They published their own ratings however "fictional" and they said -- Drumroll --- Highest ratings for this show were the lead up to the Aakash wedding, peaked at sangeet and then dropped with the forced marriage -- went down from a peak of 5.1 to 2.5 or so during IPL and never really recovered.  A bump when Barun came back etc.

Reality is, the thought that "Indians like watching people suffer" may not be true because of the movies.  No Mumbai film ever ends as a tragedy.  The hero always triumphs and good always wins over evil.  This is true every single time.

So, think it is in the "way they perceive things.

Cheers.

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 7:59pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Maverick29

Originally posted by newyork2012

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I can feel what u r saying...specialy  your this line " I am beginning to realize that I was way better off watching American TV than these Indian shows.  The whole show is going to hell in a hand basket and their way of reviving it is "introducing and old hag that is going to insult and torture the most lovable character in the entire show"."

Now coming to your point I also do not understand the basic idea of indian television...Why they always try to entertain people with sorrow, sadness, humiliation...I think the problems lie in the society which contributes to trp...we are not the people who contributes to trp...people who watch in India are so frustated/fedup with their life when they see someone in TV who is suffering more than them find peace...Now dont think this is because they want someone to be unhappy this is because they are happy to see that their life is much better than the character they are watching (be it fictional)...This is my thinking behind all this crap going on in Indian TV...

This is the only indian serial I watch and I became addicted to it because the way it was...yesterday I felt very disappointed with the saas bahu drama and also thought I am in a wrong lane that I am watching this serial which is just like another saas bahu SP serial...but I am already madly in love with this serial and today I loved ASR so continuing to watch it...But I already mentioned in my previous posts in this thread the pain which have seen in ASr last year for Khushi and the intensity of his character is missing...

They published their own ratings however "fictional" and they said -- Drumroll --- Highest ratings for this show were the lead up to the Aakash wedding, peaked at sangeet and then dropped with the forced marriage -- went down from a peak of 5.1 to 2.5 or so during IPL and never really recovered.  A bump when Barun came back etc.

Reality is, the thought that "Indians like watching people suffer" may not be true because of the movies.  No Mumbai film ever ends as a tragedy.  The hero always triumphs and good always wins over evil.  This is true every single time.

So, think it is in the "way they perceive things.

Cheers.

Again...well said Maverick.

Manal <3

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 8:16pm | IP Logged
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I can feel what u r saying...specialy  your this line " I am beginning to realize that I was way better off watching American TV than these Indian shows.  The whole show is going to hell in a hand basket and their way of reviving it is "introducing and old hag that is going to insult and torture the most lovable character in the entire show"."

Now coming to your point I also do not understand the basic idea of indian television...Why they always try to entertain people with sorrow, sadness, humiliation...I think the problems lie in the society which contributes to trp...we are not the people who contributes to trp...people who watch in India are so frustated/fedup with their life when they see someone in TV who is suffering more than them find peace...Now dont think this is because they want someone to be unhappy this is because they are happy to see that their life is much better than the character they are watching (be it fictional)...This is my thinking behind all this crap going on in Indian TV...

This is the only indian serial I watch and I became addicted to it because the way it was...yesterday I felt very disappointed with the saas bahu drama and also thought I am in a wrong lane that I am watching this serial which is just like another saas bahu SP serial...but I am already madly in love with this serial and today I loved ASR so continuing to watch it...But I already mentioned in my previous posts in this thread the pain which have seen in ASr last year for Khushi and the intensity of his character is missing...

They published their own ratings however "fictional" and they said -- Drumroll --- Highest ratings for this show were the lead up to the Aakash wedding, peaked at sangeet and then dropped with the forced marriage -- went down from a peak of 5.1 to 2.5 or so during IPL and never really recovered.  A bump when Barun came back etc.

Reality is, the thought that "Indians like watching people suffer" may not be true because of the movies.  No Mumbai film ever ends as a tragedy.  The hero always triumphs and good always wins over evil.  This is true every single time.

So, think it is in the "way they perceive things.

Cheers.


I really hope you are right...because I am not happy with this sadnes...if most of the people also think like that then these crap should not go on in TV...by the way I have not much idea abt how trp calculated and all...Whose thought are these crap also I dont know...

I hope I am right as well -- I dont have practical knowledge of the market.  But here is an answer I do have -- TRP calculations.

In the US we call them Nielsen Ratings and it is kind of easy here -- we know that there are about 135 million house holds.  Nielsen uses Cable/Satellite and our broadcast TV channel connections to determine the number of people watching a show at a particular time.

Nielsen stuff is audited regularly because the number of viewers watching a particular show, will determine the "viability" of the show for "advertising" etc.  They sell the stats and some more in-depth analysis to NBC, CBS, ABC, Fox, USA, TBS etc etc so they can rate shows.  For instance if you searched for Royal Pains or House, the corresponding WiKi page will show you how many viewers watched a particular show.  The average density of each household in the US is about 2.3.  So, if you know the number of TVs, you know the number of people that watched the show (approximately).

In India, this is a bit difficult -- first the over the air stuff doesnt get any ratings.  Second, is on StarPlus on Cable and Satellite only but measuring the numbers is a bit difficult.  See in India, they have satellite dishes but they also have "aggregation" where a guy takes a neighborhood, puts up a big dish, takes the programming and then distributes it to the rest of the people on "locally connected cable" -- this makes "ratings and measurements" difficult.  Along with that, estimating the number of people watching a single TV becomes even more difficult.

So, with these difficulties there is a lot of estimation stuff that happens.

Hope this helps.

Cheers.

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 8:18pm | IP Logged
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The only reason still I am watching it probably because Arnav took Khushi's side...

Same here and  for a lot of us I think.  We just love the story and they keep talking about a damn "love story" while showing Torture every single day.

I just fell off the damn Optimism wagon after watching the entrance of Dadi and this new crap.

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