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Arise, Advance and Proceed Arnav Singh Raizaada (Page 6)

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 12:11pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by FairyLiquidSoap

annie updated hope it is worthy of gold i am willing to settle even for a fools goldLOL
 
Swathi your one word is pot of gold lovie...the whole post was priceless gem..
 
Big hug my darlinHug

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 12:11pm | IP Logged
Great post Annie! And eat responses! 

Unfortunately, yes this still does happen! And many times people choose to stay within the familial bonds too and still manage to treat others with respect. 

Growing up, I saw many extended relative treating hired help differently. Making different, cheaper rice for them, the daal being watery, not enough vegetables to eat, having separate utensils... Crappy behavior. I'm proud that my parents never ascribed to that, and they taught me, that individuals who treat others in that manner are not worth my time, meaning i should not put weight in what they say. But I still had to outwardly give them respects, ie when I see these so called elder, touch their feet, and address them with respect. As a teenager I used to balk at that. But I was also shown how I can still treat the said targeted hired help with respect too, and show the "elder" thru my behavior. And I did. And took glee in their horrified expressions. Since it was important to my parents that I don't disrespect their extended family, I didn't. But I was taught to show my displeasure. And I did. 

As for poor daughter in law, that happens too. When the male has the attitude that women are subservient, and that disagreements between mother in law and daughter in law are best left to them, he is giving the power to the so called stronger person. In some cases the mother in law, or the sister in law. And in some cases the daughter in law. The MIL thinks that she can say whatever and the son won't interfere, and she can now show the DIL who is the queen. Or vice versa. 

As for the show, I kind of thought it was very smart of the CVs to bring in  dadi. This way, they can have a hateful character, keep up the TRPs and all. But more importantly, they don't have to show Arnav on his knees, begging for forgiveness. Thei way, they can show the couple working thru their demons together and redeeming himself. Khushi's demons being the treatment meted out to her at RM by all and sundry. And Arnav's past being him demons. Do I like it, not really. Do I want my pound of flesh, well, it would be nice to show that abject behavior has consequences. But, then again, maybe I am hoping do too much. 

At this time, I'll be happy if they show that dadi's attitudes are so wrong, and that they need to be changed. Coz I believe that even shining a light on the issue is one step in the right direction. 

Thank you for the post and the PM! 

P.S. I'm usually not online these times, and hence sporadic in my comments on other posts. Please accept apologies. 


Edited by JerryTheMouse - 07 August 2012 at 12:12pm

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 12:12pm | IP Logged
Gotta go lovies,
 
Duty calling shall catch up later...do give my love to everyone who will join later

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 12:18pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by evenjleena28

Originally posted by FairyLiquidSoap

annie updated hope it is worthy of gold i am willing to settle even for a fools goldLOL
 
Swathi your one word is pot of gold lovie...the whole post was priceless gem..
 
Big hug my darlinHug
hey vibha Hug did not see you preparing for a teleconference soon so mind is multitasking and awwEmbarrassedand so is yours vibha

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 12:20pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by RickyBahl

Well said
I connect with this staement of urs.What to do cant help dear.

Or will you be off running around in little circles screaming..'I have been cheated! I want Arnavji on bended knees sobbing his socks off begging for forgiveness from Khushji'

1 more thing EnigMAA
Today i noticed in India Forums that the camp who dont want redemption are not that active today. 
Doesnt Arnav's positive attitude or accepting his fault doesnt Impress them today ?? Iam suprised.Or do they just want Arnav to do forceful things to Khushi without repentance
Thank you
If male machoism is venerated, condoned and elevated then I imagine sadism is running alongside them
Maybe that is why there is silence

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 12:20pm | IP Logged
Whoa! Annie you asked too many questions! I am incapable of answering many since I am now watching the show strictly on episode basis and I liked today's 23 minutes enough to speak my mind. I have given up on Khushi, the CVs, even ASR; anything positive is now a welcome change from the frequent crap. IPK is making me practice one more nirvana gyan- Live in the present momentLOL

ASR rising to the occasion was a 'finally dude, you woke up to your manhood' moment. His acceptance of the fact that his marriage to Khushi was not her fault and that he forced her into it was a little too late. Nonetheless, it came and I am glad. I think that was a 'sorry' from him and I don't expect anything more from his so called 'redemption' (after bashing, this is one word I SO dislike!)

Daadi seems to have supported Arnav's father in his wrongdoings and may have meted out injustice to 'woh aurat' she mentioned repeatedly. So yeah, she could be party to ASR's hurtful past.

Star Plus one moment brings out an episode against untouchability and caste system in Satyamev Jayate and the other moment it brings out the same issue on one of it's prime time shows in this way!Confused Nayi Soch it is and I shall leave it at that!Shocked

I shall share more as and when my mind can churn out some sense Smile


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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 12:23pm | IP Logged
I think quite a few of us got hooked onto this show precisely because it did not seem like the run of the mill indian soap no evil mother in laws scheming sister in laws useless husbands predatory girlfriends
lying boyfriends etc
we watched it for the story of 2 I for one would not have seen if this soap was only about either one of the characters only and today we are actually discussing the very same drama elements that we shunned in the first place in other soaps
have our standards fallen or are we like the proverbial frog that got slowly boiled in the water and now it is too late to escape


Edited by FairyLiquidSoap - 07 August 2012 at 12:25pm

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 12:29pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Evocative

Hi AnnieSmile

Before I proceed, I have to make sure you don't forget me for the third time. I'm Suma, the latest entrant into your pontificating home(yes, uninvited like the various oddballs at RM
LOL)

I'll now talk about a very salient point,the crux of the matter.All the questions you've asked stem from this particular fact.


In the Indian television scenario there is one and only one time-tested rule to garner TRP's- Harass the female lead as much as you can. Make her suffer at the hands of literally every character in the serial barring one/two good souls. The more she cries the more TRP's you get. And when you think she's cried enough, through in some romance with the male lead. This is the mantra to the success of a daily soap.

Because here the target audience is not the 2% internet-savvy and progressive audience like us but the aunties and saas bahu's in the rural,semi-urban and urban areas who watch serials just to cry along with the heroine, sympathise with her but who never ever harbour even a single thought against the injustice meted out to her. All they want to see is their daily dose of drama which they get in plenty when the heroine is being treated like s**t. And the writers and makers just cash in on this fact.

There is absolutely no originality in any of the serials currently being dished out in all the channels. It's just old wine in new bottles and to delude ourselves that this one may be different is foolishness, methinks.

Now that that is out of the way, I'll focus about the only positive in today's episode - ASR standing up for his wifey dearest. Although 'Redemption' is not in sight anytime now, the fact that he chose to side with her going against his dadi is a huge step for Arnav. And him acknowledging to Khushi that the blame of their marriage rests solely on him has redeemed him in my eyes to a certain extent. It'll now be the only saving grace for this already battered drama. I for one am more interested in watching Arnav support Khushi than the revelations of the skeleton's in the family's long-forgotten chest.


P.S - Sorry for the late update!! internet issuesBig smile

Hi Suma, Suma, SumaBig smile
I hope I have redeemed myself by addressing you three times in succession
 
You are very welcome to this thread
Writing with such eloquence is  amjor asset
So anytime your presence and posts are appreciated
 
This being my first Indian drama initially I had great expectations of the show
Gradually that expectation has been worn down and I am left feeling and wandering if its still the same show
Degradation, humiliation and cruelty seems to be a daily dose of this drama
 
I am looking forward to the storyline unfolding hopefully with an insight into what has troubled the Raizaada clan especially the siblings
Dadi I have no doubt garnered a big part in their sorrow
She is a pretty awful creature

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