Iss Pyaar Ko Kya Naam Doon


Iss Pyaar Ko Kya Naam Doon
Iss Pyaar Ko Kya Naam Doon

Crooner 1.17 :Grains of Reflection - Updated (Page 16)

riti4u IF-Stunnerz

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 11:26pm | IP Logged
Hey Priya...
Well each time I think this is your best till now and everytime you prove me wrong with your next one...I was speechless after episode and after reading your crooner too ..I am speechless...You got me in with wonderful story in the start...I had my imaginations running...cud picture actually that small boy standing in midst of broken mirrors...cud feel what he must have felt... Thanks to anjali..I came to knw glass house was sheesh mahal...well good part of the story is that now he has someone standing beside him...Clap
Hats off to you and all writers here...I may not get enough time to comment on some of lovely work that I read here but just want to say - Everytime I log in to this place,I am never disappointed...ClapClap

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Nandalala IF-Rockerz

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 11:29pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by riti4u

Anjali - Take a bow you too sweetheart ...specially for below lines...-you won my heart yet again with the very lines below-
"A man who so desperately wanted to belong, but was not given that opportunity by his own!  A man who made a name for himself but by abandoning the identity given to him...A man molded by his past, yet defiant against it.  Not allowing it to determine his future.  But in the end, this very past would shape his future, drive him to make choices...He knows he can no longer run away from it.  It is here.  It is part of the now!  His heart ready to accept love, yet the past weaves a barb wire around it..."
will be back later girls..for my comments to opening masterpiece...need some tym...see ya

Thank you!Embarrassed  Hope you are feeling better now!Hug

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Omoraboti IF-Sizzlerz

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 11:34pm | IP Logged
Khushi's new jora-tali dress! TongueTongue Looks like she is up to digging the past!

Edited by Omoraboti - 07 August 2012 at 11:34pm

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-Sudhanya- Goldie

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 11:35pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by GanBarunFan

Priya: your quote and 1st part of the post just is so insightful.. I took me couple of reads to fully understand it...just beautiful. Agree with you about the screenplay and direction as also about the acting : highlight of the episode.I always look for your take about the episode as it connects me to the inner voice of the storyline and today was no exception.

Kabhi kabhi humein lagtha hai ki hum aapke bohat kareeb hai, aur kabhi aisa lagtha hai hum bilkul ajnabi hai...

Arnav-Khushi's journey hit a major milestone today. The gates of communication has been reached. It has not fully opened up but it has been unlocked. We see a wife reaching out to her husband to help her understand what's hurting him; vocalizing her need to 'understand him and his history. We see a husband putting aside his own turmoil, assuring her of no wrongdoing in their marriage which is at crosshair of conflict between Daadi and Arnav  . Tumari koi galthi nahi thi, meine tumhe majboor kiya shaadi ke liye He opens up to her about his Daadi, her stubbornness, her fixation with her own notions. A self-reflection maybe?  But the rawness of an open scab from wounds inflicted 14 yrs back  is evident in his inability to talk about it and his walking away from there.

Daadi- Arnav rules of engagement:Two people who are more similar than different. Both confident about themselves, their convictions. And both at loggerheads because of their past and present. She demands answers about his actions in the present and he refuses because of her 'abandonment' in the past. She reminds him that he's like his Dad whose actions still a sore point for him. She demands authority, respect because "haq banta hai hamara, riste se umar se'hum aapke Daadi hai..Aapke babuji ki amma'.he assures her of his respect for her but lets her know he'll never be like his dad,  "nahin main unke tara hoon..nahin main banunga"'. She prods him as her grandson. He replies as the man of the house : Dadi, shaayad apne teek se suna nahin,iss ghar mein unke (dad) baare mein baat karna mujhe Pasand nahi hai...

6 months back Arnav had promised Khushi that sindoor and Mangalsutra were all she's going to get from him as his wife'.he'd not give her the postion as his wife and threw her out of their room as he didn't want to deal having to breathe the same air as her. Today there is another threshold. Another gestural refusal by his Dadi to Khushi's role as Arnav's wife. Arnav crosses over the threshold of separation and goes and stands by his wife : Jahan meri patni ke liye jaga nahi hai, mujhe nahi lagtha waha meri koi zaroorath hai. A resounding message addressed at Dadi but affects his wife more . which was further confirmed by his 'Aapki maarzi" .  A reaffirmation by a husband that he'll stand by his wife like he did the other day when he threw Shyam out and said "I trust Khushi".

Other points of interest:

  • Mallik  DNA signature (LOL? ): pet peeve about people turning away before he/she finishes his/her sentence along with "Aukat" fixation too. Or mistaking  one KKG(-SR) to be something she's not while she slips around them
  • Naani the matriarch: Making proper introduction of the bahus to the Daadi. Or stepping forward to help resolve  Daadi's refusal of Khushi as Bahu Or pointing out to Daadi about her abandonment of her grandchildren 14 yrs ago which has affected their present Or stepping in as the voice of reason trying to placate two sides of  Mallik v Raizada(Mallik) or smiling with pride when her Chotey declared his intension of standing by his wife
  • Manorama Maami the chameleon: who hides to avoid "gabbar Singh"Daadi and acts like one in front of her meek DIL.

Acting : Naani and Daadi ruled today. Finally there was one person who can share the screen space with ASR and not wilt to his overbearing personality, hi Daadi. And Sanaya's eyes spoke volumes as a bahu wanting acceptance at her in laws, as a caring wife reaching out to soothe her husbans or as a woman getting respect of a sahadharmini, by her husband in true sense for the 1st time.

And ASR gosh I've a feeling that the writer, script writer and the director they are all in in love with this character otherwise how come in 1 yr this character has remained so true with his vulnerability, straight forwardness, conviction in his beliefs and to stand up for it. I'm in awe with him today as I was the 1st time I saw him...and it's growing. What adjective do I add to Barun's acting that I haven't used before. How can you add perfection to Mr Epitome of Perfection. His undertoned acting reflecting under control anger, accusation, pain and, defiance during Arnav's standoff with Daadi or his raw vulnerability, pain and love during Arnav's scene with Khushi  made ASR feel more flesh and blood than a fictional character' the man who lives and breathes in this fictional character,Sobti you amaze me yet again!

An episode with small but significant moments, some having roots pain in the past while other with promises  of  better tomorrow.

Pic Credit: Shweta and Facebook

CONGRATS hd75(wish I knew your name)That post was so honest and touching! Fantastic!Clap
& my bondhu
Mou whose writing style is like her: funny but poignant! (wooing you dearWink)

Gandhari...awesome post dear..ClapClap
I have heard one writer from our film industry saying that when you have an actor, whom you are 100% sure of bringing justice to what you have written, you just feel like going deeper into the character and write the best for him. I think that is what happened with ASR. BS made them fall in love with the character more

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Nandalala IF-Rockerz

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 11:39pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by mouramen

Congrats dear harichandana'.your post was so touching'almost an eye opener to us who thinks all this caste based madness is a thing of past. Clap

thank you pyari AnjaliHug



@ priya, is this d best crooner or d best is yet to come?

Darling, your crooner is like Sobti'who raises d bar himself'.competing with his own excellence'.Clap

I don't know frm where am reporting 'sets of Dabangg, location of Singham'must be something like that'what a face off.

Guys, pls excuse me today if I continue to praise BS after every alternate sentence'doesn't he deserve that?Clap

Life can only be understood backwards

But it must be lived forwards: can anything be more apt?

Past is right in front of Arnav Singh Raizada'after 14(or is it 15) years? With all d bitter memories, that fateful night'mention of his father'd last night of his mother and Di's broken marriage'

Oh sobti!!!!! Who else could have portrayed that pain, that helplessness, those restrained emotions in your eyes.

Jis tarah se hamari shadi hui usme tuhari koi galti nahi'maine tumhe majboor kiya'

What an admittance from d husband who once accused Khushi of: mujhe explain karna zaroori nehi samjha????

Why do I feel that when Arnav said it doesn't matter to him what will happen after 10 days he meant a lot'.in these 10 days each day he is going to reveal something to Khushi'whether it's a sorry, or sharing a past story or creating a dreamlife for her'she will become his ARDHANGINI in its true sense at d end of 10 days'yesterday was a small step towards it 'when Khushi reassures that he can share his sorrows with her.

Dadi wohi dekhti hain jo who dekhna chahti hain: didn't we here d same allegations frm Khushi towards Arnav in d bridge scene'..

Aahha now I know runs in d family'..but ASR is righteous in his own way'he is not shying away from his misdeeds'.he admits that there was no fault of Khushi in the marriage'likewise takes d responsibility in front of Dadi too. He accuses dadi of d same charges'd anger in his eye speaks volume'he has paid his price for not believing Khushi, he saw what he wanted to see and believe and ended up making d biggest mistake of his life'that's why probably he hates those character traits so much'.and of course he has not forgotten dadi's aloofness towards them for d last 15 years'

Ok I have my reservations on dadi'.i am still to understand d character other than d basic Malik traits like anger, not letting others speak, arrogance'.

Isn't she a irresponsible one too? She went to her recluse after that fateful night which shook their lives vehemently'.never checked on her grandkids, not even her friendlike relative Devyani Raizada, denied to even meet them'.how come she makes a grand entry after 15 years and demand explanation for all d happenings in these people's lives. she is even concerned about missing damadji...i guess Di will soon get extremely comfortable in Dadi's company...

But if Dadi's intervention brings up my Rowdy Raizada I have no qualms'..



Payal: at least she understood her mistakeDeadDead'.she knows nobody can stay angry with Khushi once they interact with her'

thanks to payal we got our best moment'' As I said in yesterday's crooner, how Arnav walks back to Khushi, stands next to her and will take their journey forward '..share their pain'to live blissfully in d future you have to embrace the sorrows from d past and cover them with your love.


Jaha meri patni nehi aasakti

Mjhe nehi laagta waha meri koi zaroorat hain

 Yippeee dhinka chika dhinka chika'total siti maroo paisa wasool moment for me..Party

This is how my ASR looks and talks'.mami is yet to understand whose d original sher in d house.LOLLOLLOL

Even nani was proud of his stance'playing d husband's role to T, she was proud of her upbringing'.wishing only if her son in law would have behaved d same 15 years back'

Arnav with his one single gesture probably eradicated d doubt from his nani's mind that he was not like his father'

Big round of applause for naniji'.what an absolutely adorable lady'she lost her daughter, but took care of her children, brought them up as decent human beings, showered them with love, guidance and blessing.


My today's kostin'.

    Galat jagah dudh rahe the: what did dadi meant by this? As I know no dialogues in IPK world is random'..soch ne ka pari
  1. what did Khushi do to gain so much wrath from dadi? Am still clueless'

    3.   is his father alive?


Epic moment: mami hiding behing NKROFL

That goatwa and sherni comment'.how will this lady redeem herself???AngryAngryAngry

She knows she is scary but now Dadi will soon taking over'.tough competition ahead.


NK: muahhhzz babua for your smiles at right moment.Hug

Khichdi ka paani: ya all mixed up'..all tangled up here relations, past and present...


I have no superlatives for BS anymore' make me speechless'you are the best..Monkey WinksMonkey WinksMonkey WinksMonkey WinksMonkey Winks


Piece of advice to Mr Sobti: get your eyes insured dude'.they are peerless

pics credit: facebook
monkeys borrowed from Divs 


Bhelcomes, bhelcomes!!!HugOMG, a RAPCHIK post, yaar!!!  Kya likha...full-on junoon for the epi!!!  Absolutely nailed ASR's psyche!   I loved the term righteous for him--your explanation is just brilliant there!!  I find it difficult to give Payal any credit after her silence on Monday, but yes, her pushing Khushi to talk to D makes it a teensy better!!!

Your questions RULE!  Too tired now to answer them!  Though I read somewhere that the father maybe alive!!!

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soni.b IF-Dazzler

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 11:40pm | IP Logged
                   Hug A BIG JHAPPI TO MOU SWEETIE!!!!!Hug

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Nandalala IF-Rockerz

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 11:46pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Parsha

 "One of the saddest things in life, is the things one remembers." 
Agatha Christie


A good heavy book holds you down. It's an anchor that keeps you from getting up..(Roy Blount)

Lady Sobti you raise the bar every time to..what a write up Priya..I got goose bumps..GRAINS OF REFLECTION. I was pondering on his past' his past has made him, what he is today... 

"ek lamhae mai simaat aya hai sadiyon ka safar...zindagi tez bahut tez chali ho jaise"' 

14 saal pahlae..14 saal baad'who ek lamha .. yeh  lamba safar'but he lived that moment every day of his living life.. When you keep revisiting your past every night, it ends up making you the person you are every morning!! Its soo important for you, that your dreams change..

Dadi-His link to past (broken and scattered ..grains of reflection. ..Nightmare)

Khushi- His bridge to the future (his shadow in her eyes'grains of reflection..dreams)

Haqq- (how i love this word a days)

"Shayad aapne suna nahin ..iss gher mai koi unka naam lae MUJHAE pasand nahin"- true Mera Gher, Lion is in the den...walls are of brick not glass..shielding and protecting..No one is allowed to hurt me or were gone .when I needed you most..You escaped..I fought'stood by..made it from scratch...fathered my sibling and my family..NOW I DECIDE. If you love me you understand me...if you don't love me..I don't care whether you understand me or not...ties of blood will not give you "HAQQ"..

"Biwi ho tum meri..haq hai tumhara ..mujh per"- wife from a contract marriage..but he loves to call her BIWI

"Kiss haq sae pooch rahi hai aap mujh sae"- Blood ties..i am your fathers mother'But he refuses  her .. her rights..If we go by regular norms of "RISHTAEDARI  KI  DUNIYA" she is  head of the family being denied rights'

Haqq pyar ko hota hai..adhikar ka nahin..diya jata hai.liya nahin jata'

Mai Aisa kyon hoon: His simple and stated thoughts:

How you spoke about his thoughts being simple..he knows the bottom line..and states it..that makes him fearless because he is not confused about what he wants.. "janha meri patni nahin aa sakti..waha mera koi kam nahin hai" decides at the moment..and executes.. "shayad aapne suna nahin".. he knows RELAXXXSmile 


Dadi- Khushi
first face off with "Kichad ka pani on the face"(did it say anything about the past) ..denied entry to her room..she was stopped at the threshold..Aukaat or Mariyada ka farka'she was denied entry because dadi thought she doesn't deserve to be a part of her family'but he crossed the threshold.. "Rishtae ki Mariyaada dhaleez langh kae bhi rakhi jaa sakti hai.." went out and stood by her..for her ..Sometimes all you need in life is a hero..(read it somewhere in the crooner)

PS: but yes..slowly Arnav is making me forget the 3 episodes when ASR was quite'that one  step out of the threshold to stand by his wife 'Time heals and actions to. 

Yeh Rishta-
Again revisited my doubts on her she belonged to the his pain... do they actually remember "nahin jaoongi wapas jub tak contract khatam nah ho jaye".. "hum aap ko apna pati nahin mantae"' "baki sab bhi khatam"..reaching out to each other.. "ek second bhi yeh mat samjhna ki tumhari galti hai"' "aap bata saktae hai hum ko"

My words and ramanchi-ramanchi that they keep playing

koi khamosh hai itna, bahaane bhool aaya hoon
kisi ki ek tarannum main, taraane bhool aaya hoon
meri ab raah mat takna kabhi aaye aasma waalon
main ek chidiya ki aankhon main udaane bhool aaya hoon 
(I am home..and how!!)


In each family a story is playing itself out, and each family's story embodies its hope and despair. Dadi is not all despair..there is hope..Khushi clinged to her when she was about to lose balance on "kichad ka pani" in their first face off'n then you can't hate one can..look at your grandson dadi..mighty tried with all his might..and now he is fighting with all to keep her..

Khushi ' The women:
Waiting for the day when Khushi will rise for her self'not for "gupta" or "singh raizada" but for Khushi..and when she will not look for "Sahara" in Arnav,NK,Babuji or anybody else to speak for her. She is strong, dependable and independent, she can stand on face of death to bring back her love..a girl who can set out alone to earn living for her family, stand in midst the tornado we call I wish for once she stood with pride for the women she is..wife,daughter,sister, bahu..everything else will fall in place. Stop saying "humae maaf ker dijiyae"'.yyy Khushi!!

CONGRATS HD75..very very well deserved..i wanted to write on your post yesterday but seriously dadi ate up all my words..i was freaking out..loved every word you wrote and yes it was sooo true!!!ClapClapStar

Anu: Badhaiyan to you to Darling!!StarParty

A STERLING POST, Parsha!!! You have such a flair for poetry!  Haqq pyar ko hota hai..adhikar ka nahin..diya jata hai.liya nahin jata--just loved this line, yaar!!!  Encapsulates the whole episode for me! Your take on 'Dahleez' is just so SPOT ON!!! Can't say enough!!!!

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soni.b IF-Dazzler

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 11:48pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by arch_nat1112

Superb Crooner Priya... The beginning was quite amazing! The connect to Sheesh Mahal and back to our themes of mirrors with the reflections! Take a bow, sweets! And congratulations to hd75! Thank you for sharing your story with us! And to my favourite, Anu! Hugs!!!

Onto the episode! It was quite something to see Arnav Singh Raizada bow down at anyone's feet, and to see him do twice was really quite something! The second time when they both bowed down, I thought it was unbelievably sweet as well - because I think this was the first time they had taken aashirwaad together from an elder (am I right?). And Dadi not blessing Khushi hurt him immediately - especially because he knows it will hurt Khushi.

The past comes back to haunt him - and Khushi tries to console him in her own way - he then tells her that it's more than Dadi's reaction to her that's troubling him... expresses his angst at Dadi... and she knows she can't get to him sometimes "jaise hum aaj bhi ajnabi hain" - whatever had happened in the past - she knows nothing about where he has come from and what he is... she only knows that she loves him - "hum aapke itne kareeb hain"... she needs to know him, wants to know him... the enigmatic man she fell in love with and married... Loved the line where he said that it was never her fault - the way they got married! It just strengthened the dor that they have already built - knowing that he understands her in a very deep way that maybe even she doesn't understand herself. Like you said Priya - steps ahead in the love story with both of them reaching out to each other!

The Dadi-Nani confrontation was excellent - both actors were awesome like you said Priya - but from the moment Arnav Singh Raizada walked in, it was his show all the way. From the way he gave Dadi some home truths to the moment he established that Babuji's name should not be taken in this house, to the hurt masked by indignation and arrogance about Dadi's questioning, and to the assertion that he will never become his father - it was just brilliant. Of course most brilliant of all was the moment when he stepped outside the threshold to where Khushi was standing - "Jahaan meri patni nahi aa sakti, mujhe nahi lagta wahan meri koi zaroorat hai"! Barun was simply mind-blowing today (and hello, how hot was he!).

No predictions - episode to episode watching and commenting is how I like it, so I am not going to speculate at all. Just sitting back and waiting to watch! (Though will watch late today since we are going out - what a tragedy! Cry)

Random thoughts:
-- Arnav'ji' only has 9 days left to get her to drop the 'ji'! Doing something about it? so true sweetie me too waiting for her to drop that ji!!!
-- That strict Dadi gave birth to Arnav's dad who apparently did something horrible - AND that slimy chacha from the first episode? Wow, talk about bad parenting.LOL i shudder to think what would have happened to ASR if she had not be brought up by Subhadra Mallick!!!
-- Also how much did Dadi sound JUST like Arnav? Especially the "jab hum baat kar rahe hain" dialogue!
-- Loved the lighting on Arnav in the scene in the room, and the Arnav-Khushi blurs and focuses. Beautiful.
-- Mami made me swing between laughing and wanting to thwack her. Thank God for her she's so comic, or people would have completely hated her. love her, hate her but can't ignore her!!!!
-- Why does Payal wear so much jewellery? I thought it was really overpowering looking, but I guess it was to establish her as the daughter-in-law as against the 'servant'. maybe but i thought she was following in her bootiful saas footsteps!!!LOL

Finally a song that's been running in my head since I read your first quote! Here's to roads and paths, winding and straight, to glass houses and brick mansions, and to romance and love!

P.S. Won't be around much today as well - sorry about that... I promise to be a litlte better from next week!
archu sweetie!!!!Hug loved ur post!!!
your random points...awesome!!!!!!

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