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Crooner 1.16 :When the clock strikes 12 - Updtd (Page 3)

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Posted: 06 August 2012 at 1:05pm | IP Logged
Congrats my dearest Shweta jaan and Indi Di...


Congrats to Suba and Nishi too...


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Hi Priya:
Beautiful Crooner as usual. I'm so glad you touched upon t
oday's regressive nature of the script. Frankly the whole bit of extreme "piousness" to the point of 'untouchability' vice was a turn-off for me...skipped through most of the episode till Arnav enters RM with Nani, which was the last shot of the episode.



The one thing that stayed in my mind about the episode was the long shot of RM hallway entrance with Arnav-Naani on one side and Anjali-Daadi on the other .. future Battle-lines drawn ? Maybe ...or maybe not...too early to predict. But tn Anjali's and Arnav's reactions to their Dadi were significantly different...She heralded a nostalgia though painful for Anjali but appeared to evoke a raw pain in Arnav's eyes.
maybe I'm reading too much..

Will just say this much ASR's "Enough Maamiji !!!" is long overdue...That's another regression which is becoming more than an eyesore..in which civil society albeit tellyland (but in a channel proclaiming to be flagbearer of "soch nayee" )does a MIL pass off her DIL as a servant? It's not the 'role' but the insult. please bring our cool Mano-Bond back! I hope they will  not take Daadi's acrid behavior too far. The Precap gives me hope..because of ASR's bodylanguage and his signature bg score.

And Khushi's spontaneous self confession about her love for Arnav and knowing so little about the man himself : That's a past I want to delve into.  As you predicted, it has the key to the man's trove of struggles and heartache which need to be healed for their better now and tomorrow.

Sorry if it comes across as too much rant. But I'm not sorry for my thoughts.

Your Cinderella reference reminded me of something which doesn't apply to the episode but a wish for our Khushi :

"A dream is a wish your heart makes when you're fast asleep. In dreams you will lose your heartaches. Whatever you wish for, you keep. Have faith in your dreams, and someday, your rainbow will come smiling through. No matter how your heart is grieving, if you keep on believing, the dream that you wish will come true. "
 -Cinderella(Cinderlla)

P.S Happy Birthday to your brother Arnab!...that song is also a favorite of mine.Smile


CONGRATS Shweta and Indi !!! absolutely AWESOME posts!!!

great job Suba and Nish!Clap



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Posted: 06 August 2012 at 1:19pm | IP Logged
"I shut my eyes and all the world drops dead; 
I lift my eyes and all is born again." 

~Sylvia Plath

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 I just love that first quote by Virginia Wolf, hun...and your title is perfect...taking us back to midnight...in that garden again...where past and present meet.  A fabulous, insightful and concise Crooner! ClapClap For me, this epi hit several important notes with one common theme...It was defined by those roses she was tending to. Roses that he planted, she was now the caretaker...Roses that symbolize love, faithfulness, and purity...The same roses which have thorns that can cause you to abandon them because of the pain.  And then the rosebuds--nascent, tender and without thorns.  A perfect metaphor for the past and present; old and new.  The other note for me was the re-introduction of certain elements...namely, Water, Fire & Earth...We all know the significance of Water in this show, so I won't touch on that right now...But I was more intrigued by the Earth brought in--with Khushi tending to those roses...and then with Daadi not allowing Khushi to step foot into "her" space, delineating an invisible line immediately...again, marking a difference between past and present...old and new. Finally, the Bal Gopal reference--Janamashtami--a time of rebirth...new beginnings...the new baby on the horizon and its implications for our story. Taking an age old tradition in the 21st century and still giving it the same importance that it was given centuries ago...the more things change, the more they stay the same...

"...Jise Hum Itna Pyaar Kartein Hain"

These fabulous words eclipsed and set the tone from Friday's fantastic episode.  She has now had her awakening!  She has now recognized the love that he brings to her being.  Accepted it.  If she dares to shut out that very love as she learns about his past, their past--hum unhe teekh se jaante bhi nahi-she will be drawn into to a dark world.  An ultimate test for Khushi as the gatekeeper for all things Raizada and Gupta, too.  Thus to my quote today: will she chose to keep her eyes open or her eyes shut?  Will love motivate her, or make her a victim?  

The answer came to me in the next scene.  She walks with the basin of water to tend to the plants outside--again--the nurturer--here.  Very interesting...she sees a lizard. Lizards are a symbol of dreams and perceptions...Again, the CVs don't leave anything to chance, do they?LOL She throws the water on the ground and unto Dadi... A cleansing...Water on Dadi's face..Every ritual in the Hindu tradition begins with water and fire.  Water is needed to purify--the mind, the space and the being itself!  When I had written about Seize-Fire in my seat-filler edition of the Crooner, I had said water will always trump every other element!  For me, Dadi represents the past--part of fire--just as Shyam and Anjali do, too...It will be Arnav--Water--who will be the key there to wash away the sins of the old...and allow them to triumph anew as a couple.  Yes, Khushi's education into his past is critical and she will be the "key" for him, but not before he steps up to quell the fire! 

In a deliberate attempt to talk about "class", social distinction, and societal norms, the CVs took some broad liberties today...I, too, was amazed and irked at how quickly Khushi was marginalized to a "servant" where as all of a sudden Payal appeared to be "elevated" to the Raizada bahu.  Was it because Payal is, in fact, the only Raizada bahu?  Khushi is really a Mallik bahu, after all! It was also interesting to note that this perception was at play while Naani and Anjali were both out of the house.  I think the point was to show that within a generation, mindsets can be so different.  Naani is just as opinionated on certain matters as Dadi, but she never once made Khushi feel like a "naukar"...As you pointed out, Manorama was also a maid to Naani, but now accepted as the bahu.  I found it interesting that Dadi was willing to talk and take items from Manorama, knowing who she is...so double standard, much?  The implications of princess to naukar and vice versa are obvious here!  Not to mention the reference to 12 again...

"Welcome to 'Unwelcome.'"
~Jarod Kintz

Earth...stepping into unwelcome space...After talking to Payal, Khushi decides she will go and talk to Dadi to find out more about her.  Khushi was willing to take the first step again to find out more about her beloved's past.  But her attempt was thwarted by Dadi.  Just a gesture...that hand forbidding  her to come within. Khushi walks back...tracing back her footsteps! I had to wonder here about the distance: will Khushi be given all the facts about the past or will it be that they will only reveal that which they want her to see while bridging that gap between Mallik and Raizada to get to Arnav?  Seeing the Bal Gopal in that scene  brought me back to Janamashtami last year...where Arnav and Khushi held the diya so that the flame didn't extinguish; I couldn't help but connect that scene to what we saw on Friday, and also its implications for all the revelations on the horizon! Finally, Earth as Mother...seeing Anjali and Daadi together--Anjali's initial reaction was heart wrenching, but Dadi seemed very cold to her until she commented on her pregnancy (did Shyam possibly tell her?) Followed by Anjali's questioning her about abandonment...After the death of their mother on that fateful night, Anjali and Arnav became orphans...A relationship that they seemed to have cherished, walked its way away from them.  Ground slipping from under them! Dadi did not offer her an explanation other than to say she was back and everything would be alright...I absolutely loved your reference to bhikarna here--those pearls, memories of the past, truths...all scattered...and all waiting to become whole and complete again!

"The past lies beneath the surface, intransigent truth. Remembered or not, what we say and do remains, always." 
~Meredith Hill

My aha moment in the epi came while seeing the two sides of the chessboard at play! We saw Anjali and Dadi on one end, and Naani and Arnav at the other ...in that one frame.  Past and Present. Arnav's face was absolutely a give away here--his shock at seeing Dadi in his home, but his eyes gave away his pain at being abandoned and alone...More importantly, a realization for me, that somewhere along the way, he obviously had found out that Dadi was in an ashram, but it sounds like he never made an attempt to contact her--the total opposite of Anjali!  He wanted the past to stay where it belonged--away from him!  Completely in keeping with his character!

Other thoughts~

~NK was awesome today!  Loved his reference to "taare" above!  We all know the significance there!

~Mamiji and Payal were just hopeless...hopeless!  Ultimately, such COWARDS!

~Anjali was spot-on!  Loved her scene...it was emotional, but she hit it to a T!

~Oh, I have some thoughts on Subhadra...let me think on them some more before I share it with all of you!Big smile

PRECAP:  Here is where Arnav becomes ASR for everyone but Khushi!!!Big smile  United we stand, divided we fall!Big smile Super LOVED it!!

After a long time, I felt a lull in watching today...but the precap made up for it! I loved Sanaya in the scene with the roses--so "earthy" right there!  I agree, Daljeet made up for her lackluster emoting in the latter part of last week...Enjoyed her thoroughly!  Swati Chitnis--I have watched some of her scenes in the past--and this genre of acting is her forte!  She is very good in playing the matriarch and I am sure she will be a treat to watch...But for now, we wait for tomorrow!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY to your ARNAB, hun!  Absolutely LOVE that song!!!!Smile

Finally, CONGRATULATIONS to all my gals!!!HugHug
 




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Originally posted by smashitupsobti

Hug welcome back P - made you a little something ... look forward to reading the update  Hug

 
I was staring at the pic for 5 mins I suddenly realised...it cant get more beautiful Kalps...
 
she was an epitome of beauty..that moment...which shone in his eyes...
 
ohh how I loved her in each frame in that episode...those bewitching smiles and the best was the moment when she hugged him back - the smile through tears - the final submission !!!
 
make one on that moment too please whenever you have time Smile
 
Thanksss a ton for this Hug

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Posted: 06 August 2012 at 1:38pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by honeypriya

Originally posted by smashitupsobti

Hug welcome back P - made you a little something ... look forward to reading the update  Hug

 
I was staring at the pic for 5 mins I suddenly realised...it cant get more beautiful Kalps...
 
she was an epitome of beauty..that moment...which shone in his eyes...
 
ohh how I loved her in each frame in that episode...those bewitching smiles and the best was the moment when she hugged him back - the smile through tears - the final submission !!!
 
make one on that moment too please whenever you have time Smile
 
Thanksss a ton for this Hug


@red: I saw her for the epitome of beauty that she was at that moment.. but your next words that it shone in his eyes.. yes.. the love, the adoration, the care, the concern speaking through his eyes.. she has come to mean everything to him! I saw that too! But I just thought about it.. she is also the most beautiful for him and it was showing in his eyes then too! Heart
Ah.. I just found another reason to love the scene even more!! A new meaning..! Smile

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Posted: 06 August 2012 at 1:57pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by shwetachauhan

Originally posted by honeypriya

Originally posted by smashitupsobti

Hug welcome back P - made you a little something ... look forward to reading the update  Hug

 
I was staring at the pic for 5 mins I suddenly realised...it cant get more beautiful Kalps...
 
she was an epitome of beauty..that moment...which shone in his eyes...
 
ohh how I loved her in each frame in that episode...those bewitching smiles and the best was the moment when she hugged him back - the smile through tears - the final submission !!!
 
make one on that moment too please whenever you have time Smile
 
Thanksss a ton for this Hug


@red: I saw her for the epitome of beauty that she was at that moment.. but your next words that it shone in his eyes.. yes.. the love, the adoration, the care, the concern speaking through his eyes.. she has come to mean everything to him! I saw that too! But I just thought about it.. she is also the most beautiful for him and it was showing in his eyes then too! Heart
Ah.. I just found another reason to love the scene even more!! A new meaning..! Smile



now thanks to you three I want to watch the episode again *sigh*

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Posted: 06 August 2012 at 2:03pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by amisuv

Priya, what an intriguing title to the Crooner, pointing towards a drama-filled week Clap Clap
 
Coming to the episode...
 
Khushi's dialogue "Hum jinse itna pyaar karte hain, unke baare mein hum kuch jaante hi nahi hain"
Like I had mentioned in my previous post, the phase has begun fr Khushi to understand her Laad Governor, the makings of the mighty ASR. Her transformation from a chirpy " Pagaal " girl who is understanding the nuances of love to a mature & responsible lady of the house.  Very important here bcz he will need her right beside him when the storm hits... His troubled past, the wounds of which still havent healed...
 
Daadi, another enigma just like her grand daughter. The Mallik attitude in place Smile A disciplinarian from the looks of it. The " clumsy " Khushi better be careful around her. From the TRP point view, it could work well with the Aunties. I wish there was a promo highlighting her entry though.
 
Plz correct me if I am wrong, but didnt Khushi also mistake Manorama Mami to be a servant of the house when she first came to RM Confused
 
And yes, this was really funny. One samajhdaar Gupta sister advices & the other follows without too much thought. But phir se backfire ho gaya LOL
 
Do I see another festival celebration in the offing, Bal Gopal ka Happy Birthday Big smile 
 
The man of the house returns, looking yummy in that charcoal grey suit Day Dreaming Day Dreaming
 
The battlelines drawn, the opponents marked... Naani-Arnav / Daadi-Anjali...Mr.Khan, what a brilliant closing shot Clap Clap 
 
A question to Gul / Gautam, why the need to show Khushi as the " abhlaa naari " every other episode ?? Doesnt fit in the IPK way of storytelling.
 
And Priya, plz solve this mystery, Ved kahaan gaya?????? Confused Wink 
 
Congrats to the Stars of the Thread " Shweta & Indi Di " Clap Clap Star Star & to Suba & Nishi as well Clap Clap 

Suvi brilliant post covering every aspect of the episode beautifully. Red highlighted Thumbs Up  I talked to Priya about the two camps pretty evident today . I am hoping we don't have too much melodrama willn't fit IPK just like you said about Khushi being portrayed as the abla nari. 

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Posted: 06 August 2012 at 2:08pm | IP Logged

Thank you Anjali.. for the lovely words hun!! Hug You made me go back and read my post again!! Embarrassed  And Thank you my girls for the wishes!!




Conratulations to our darling Indi Di.. and also to my jaanuu Suba and Nishu jaan!!! Hug Hug











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