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Crooner 1.16 :When the clock strikes 12 - Updtd (Page 14)

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 12:01am | IP Logged
Originally posted by honeypriya

Originally posted by srirao

@ Anjali,,,isnt  Ved the writer of the story,,,??
 
@ Anjali & Sri - yess, Ved is writer of the story.
 
 
@ Suvi darlingg - checked with the sources, it was a miss...as of now to their knowledge, they are very much part of the team...
 
Girlss actually yesterday in the Credits - they didnt show Ved and Sudhir's names which was a surprise as thats the regular credits - and we had a lil shock at our end - but all is well in IPK land...miss out somehow I guess.
 
Thanks so much fr the info dear Big smile  Agar woh chala gaya, toh Mr.Dhokla kiske kandhe pe rakh kar bandook chalayega...
 
A very Happy Birthday to Arnab Party Party
 
 
Priya, luved the reference to " Cinderella "... Teej & remarriage, yes that is what GH is aiming at. Quite evident in past few weeks. Also, Daadi's displeasure towards Khushi is a direct hint at the past & something similar which could have happened then.
 
ASR's bday on 9th & Janamashtami on 10th, overlapping kaise karenge?? Magar GH kabse actual festival dates ko follow karne laga hai Smile 

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 12:02am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Omoraboti

Congratz Shweta & Indi!!! HugBoth of you did a brilliant job and one thing I like about both of your writing skills, is you are lyrical. 

Ok. So how did you feel about the episode (not precap Tongue)? Excited? Intimidated? Intrigued? Bored?

 

I will settle for intrigued. Smile This was indeed an interesting episode. On the surface, it was about introducing Dadi to the plot but parallelly lot of other things was running ' the same segment giving away multiple messages. This episode tried to deliver at least something for everyone & finishing off with the precap, I will say they have been successful. However, this episode seemed to focus more on the storyline than the characters ' how things were in past, why things are as they are and also what the future is about to bring. It must have been a decoding delight for the analysts where nearly half of the dialogues & incidents seemed to have been stating something else - full of innuendos, nuances & symbolisms. My amateur brain already on overdrive Confused - I hope I can make some sense.

 

As I mentioned in the last crooner, the last episode for me was a crossroad of beginnings - beginning of closing of one base of the story - "Khushi ki Aaj" & the beginning of the revealing of the other - "Arnav ki bure Atit". So the episode rightly started with hinting the return of the past as we see a clearly scared Manoroma, apprehending the arrival of Daadi ' someone who affects her BP, someone who causes "Darr", someone who "Jaha Bhi Rehe, sukhi rehe, bas yaha na aye". Payal & NK tries to get insight into the storm approaching while I keep on thinking a lot of other things. "Darr" is one of my old time fav by SRK ' a story of an obsessed lover. But why did I feel there is someone else than Daadi who the family wants to stay away wherever he/she is?

 

At the same time, in their own castle or Tajmahal, Khushi is busy tending the rose plants of her Shaitan/ Rajkumar. Besides seeing a Khushi who is happily taking care of Arnav's plants ' there were two other things that instantly struck my mind as Khushi went on with her little monologue ' by the time the rose buds will bloom, the Nanhi Kali of Anjali will come to this world. The first thing that crossed my mind was what Priya mentioned in the last crooner ' of many other things, Rose also refers to secrets. So I would like to settle for this meaning in this dialogue and that gives us a timeline in the story. The other thing was the very obvious essence of "Beauty & the Beast". We have discussed this over & over but let me take you through it again a bit. What caused Beauty to land up with the beast? A Rose. Beauty asks her father to get her a rose, on his travel back home. It is the picking of this rose, from the Beast's private garden, which causes the daughter to replace her father in the castle. I have never given this part of the story any significance before but somehow it ticked me today. We all know the second part of the story ' keep on thinking!

 

So Daadi enters RM only to be welcomed with splashing waters from Khushi who wanted to water the plants outside but ends up spilling the "water" seeing a "Lizard" on the door. FYI - of the many things Lizard refers to, one is snake or serpent. LOL There goes Khushi's first impression ' Daadi thinks of her as a servant ' our very own "Kaneez" carrying a tub of water, in Kurta though married, quite in a disheveled state with "mitti" on her face. Thinking of someone so graceful like Khushi a servant was a bit OTT but being a part of the liberal audience, I forgive the CVs because they were trying to deliver a lot of things with this little "Servant" track. In Daadi's defense, she clearly has no idea of any other "Bahus" in the house and perhaps, she is not used to seeing Raizada Bahus working like that. As for CVs, on the surface, this "servant" track will draw a part of the audience who likes Saans-Bahu drama over intense romance. Other than that, a parallel story was again being played here by the CVS ' something they are clearly enjoying these days. But, but, but .. this time I felt this one little segment was referring to two other Kaneez from the past ' someone perhaps we yet to meet, but the other one ' can it be Manoroma Mami? I will touch upon that later. Another thing that came through this segment is social stigma. We will need that little trace of "mitti" removed off Khushi's face before she becomes the Raizada Bahu in true sense. Who wants a remarriage? I do!

 

Moving on! No one gets to clarify who Khushi really is ' let the drama continue for a bit longer. Khushi was visibly hurt & appalled though she tried to show she is taking it in good spirit. And what follows next is perhaps her greatest realization about Arnav till date, "Jisse hum itna Pyaar karte hain, hum unhe thik se jante bhi nehi hain." I will stick to my "New Book" theory of their life as she declares her love for Arnav without the slightest bit of hesitation and that too in an open space ' not inside her room. And the second part of the dialogue is all about the track to come ' the knowing of Arnav Singh Raizada by his biwi. As the past will reveal, understanding the love of her life will be the most important of all for her.

 

So Khushi goes to offer "milk with kesar" to Daadi. Daadi not only restricted her to enter the room but also rejected the milk, shut the door & pull the curtain. Daadi does not accept the "milk" from Mami either and jibes, "some people & some things will never change." Then she finds Khushi preparing for Puja and again she stops her. In the mean time, Anjali enters the house and realizes something is wrong with Khushi ' the first sign of concern from Anjali in days for Khushi. Perhaps, her grudge has started to lessen? Perhaps, she no longer needs to hold any grudge against her? Before Khushi could answer she hears somebody talking about "wasted time & saving time" and there stood her Daadi in all glory. Following was an emotional union between the two ladies where Daadi was concerned to know about Damaad ji particularly when she clubbed the rest as "others". Anjali breaks down, runs to her room. Daadi follows her, learns things are not right and promises she will make everything right. Why was she not shocked learning her pregnant Granddaughter was not fine? To top it, how did she even realize Anjali was pregnant since she visibly is not? And of course, why after 14 years she is here? Let's keep thinking!

 

Raizada Bahus Revisited:

I am happy I decided to write a little bit on the Raizada Bahus in the last crooner since it was bothering me for the last couple of episodes. An excerpt from what I wrote ' "I feel Raizada Bahus perhaps have always needed to work really hard to make their places in the family. That has to be one of the reasons why Manoroma Mami is also giving a tough time to the girls." And it came into play today again, with the entry of Daadi. "Some people & Some things never change" ' this can refer to a lot of things but on the very surface, it was directed to Manoroma Mami from whom also Daadi did not accept the milk. It is not only about the Bahus, it is also about their social class. Apparently, the gupta sisters & Maami ' all are from LIG. I could smell an inherent dislike about this class in Daadi ' this could be familial or triggered by some incident in the past. Whatever it is, Khushi is not going to be accepted by her very soon. Besides, I cannot stop thinking of the times I have not liked Naani for taunting Manorama.

 

Anjali-Dadi vs. Family:

Anjali has finally found her anchor. She has been waiting for someone to tell her, "Saab Kuch Thik Ho Jayega". And Daadi says that to the word which even Aranv could not say. Anjali prompted Arnav asking for this assurance after she attempted to harm the baby but he avoided. Though she mended things with Arnav, her insecurities were visible and that perhaps was one of the reasons why she kept doubting the intentions of Arnav-Khushi. She wants to start afresh & with Daadi by her side, she will leave no stone unturned to get what she wants. And yes .. perhaps, she does not need to hold any grudge against Khushi anymore. The closing shot was interesting ' I am sure none of us has missed it. Arnav-Nani& Anjali-Daadi facing each other as the other family members look on ' we can try making a guess what may cause the family to stand like this in the future.

 

Brain Teasers:

1) The Baby Krishna ' there has to be something about it. Due to my lack of knowledge in this arena, I will leave this to you. Smile

2) We heard "BP" & "bartan" again. Is Daadi carrying some "bartan" of peetal? And how many times has she referred to "Shuddhi"?

 

Scene of the Day: Precap!!

 

Performance:

This is an episode I am happy with everyone. Going with my tendency to favoritism, a special mention to the man of the show Embarrassed ' you surpassed all in that just 1 minute shot.

 

On a Lighter Note:

Anjali Darling, don't bend like that on someone's lap! You are pregnant for God's sake! Shocked


Awesome, awesome, awesome take on the epi, Farah!  As always, you give us a lot to chew on!Big smile  We had discussed the significance of the rose in Beauty and the Beast quite extensively during the Sundari/Shaitaan epi...  I am glad you reminded us of that again!  I also appreciated the reference to kaniz here in the context of how Khushi had used it a few days ago.  But having said that, Khushi was obviously not happy at being called a naukar today...her allegiance as a kaniz, therefore, seems only to Arnav...maybe a distinction to note given the battle lines we saw drawn in that last scene.  

I don't think Dadi would have accepted the milk from anyone in that household today until her purification rituals were complete.  Having said that, I thought it was interesting she was open to conversing with Manu.  So somewhere I couldn't help but think of the double standard at play, regardless of whether Dadi was aware of Khushi's "status" within the family!  

Agree with you on the Anjali scene...I have similar questions too...She seemed completely aloof to Anjali in the beginning.  And yes, the lack of distress at Anjali's pain was hard to fathom, not to mention the fact that how did she even KNOW Anji was preggo?Shocked Yes, good catch on the "theek ho jayega"...but while Arnav may not voice it, Anjali knows its implicit in his actions.  That kheer scene and the raksha bandana scene last week reassured her!

I am intrigued by your last paragraph...I think Anjali may see Khushi in a possible negative ligjt because of Dadi (until everything abt the past is revealed.)  The battle lines we saw in that last scene were there for a reason.  The sides already chosen.  

The Bal Gopal-and the celebration of his birth-Janamashtami-has a lot of religious significance.  It marks a new birth, as it is the celebration of Lord Krishn's birth...And it falls 8 days after Raksha Bandhan (according to the Hindu calendar, not the IPK calendar!LOL)  So it will be a marker in  the storyline moving forward!

Yes, Dadi does have some peetal bhartan with her...She took them out of her bags today, and set them up in her room before sitting for her puja!  Shuddhi is the key with her...purification, but with what purpose...she will make a big deal abt it until ASR takes her up on it...

Ah, one minute of bliss was just that...enjoyable!!

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 12:02am | IP Logged
Originally posted by -Sudhanya-

@Suvi..I can read and recognize your post without checking the name. A pakka Suvilicious post. ClapClap

@Anji..ab tere post mein comment karoon, yeh mere bas ki baat nahi hai. Loved your take. One doubt, Maami was a naukar??? Did they mention that anytime??. I thought she is from a poor family..
 
Thanks fr ur lovely comments Sudha Hug
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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 12:08am | IP Logged
Originally posted by amisuv

Originally posted by honeypriya

Originally posted by srirao

@ Anjali,,,isnt  Ved the writer of the story,,,??
 
@ Anjali & Sri - yess, Ved is writer of the story.
 
 
@ Suvi darlingg - checked with the sources, it was a miss...as of now to their knowledge, they are very much part of the team...
 
Girlss actually yesterday in the Credits - they didnt show Ved and Sudhir's names which was a surprise as thats the regular credits - and we had a lil shock at our end - but all is well in IPK land...miss out somehow I guess.
 
Thanks so much fr the info dear Big smile  Agar woh chala gaya, toh Mr.Dhokla kiske kandhe pe rakh kar bandook chalayega...
 
A very Happy Birthday to Arnab Party Party
 
 
Priya, luved the reference to " Cinderella "... Teej & remarriage, yes that is what GH is aiming at. Quite evident in past few weeks. Also, Daadi's displeasure towards Khushi is a direct hint at the past & something similar which could have happened then.
 
ASR's bday on 9th & Janamashtami on 10th, overlapping kaise karenge?? Magar GH kabse actual festival dates ko follow karne laga hai Smile 

Thanksss Suvi..bhai ko bol dungi...he's become too conscious these wih working at big company...didnt allow me to send him a cake Cry

haan coming back, bandook Ved nahi, to Gul sahi...jaise shaatir dimaag writers ke kandhe pe bandook chalata hai...yeh bhi kuch soch lega...Soch nayi ka "bag" hai na...LOL
 
Janmashthami is also on 9th...next day on 10th only ISCKON celebrates...unka rules thoda alag hota hai...
 
Thats wat I have been trying to figure, wats with GH suddenly following strict timelines - iske peeche yeh kya naya shadyantra rach raha hai...Confused

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 12:09am | IP Logged
Originally posted by shybabe

What a wonderful crooner and the tittle is even better priya.

I so love the opening quote...Embarrassed

Congratulations to all the Stars of the thread! Truly well deserved..Big smile

Coming to the episode:

So finally Daadi Arrives in the mansion. Arnav and Dadi face off is going to be wonderful for this track. The arrival of Daadi will open the door to the horrible past that has been closed for so long and I can't wait.

Khushi's tender care for Arnav's plants...show her changed attitude towards her relationship with her Laad Governor..

"Hum jinse itna pyaar karte hain, unke baare mein hum kuch jaante hi nahi hain" 

The Cv's are doing a good job of bringing out Khushi's feelings slowly and gently..unlike her natureLOL. I like it very very much.

Daadi is a complete reflection of Arnav Singh Raizada. Arnav Singh Raizada who first spoke about aukad  will see the history repeat right in front of his eyes...and will rise above all...standing and supporting his wife..Clap...I love this concept of Soch Nayi..where the hubby will stand by his wife's side..though thick and thin..

"to have and to hold, from this day forward, for better, for worse, for richer, for poorer, in sickness and in health, until death do us part"

In true sense..now Arnav will be Khushi's protector.Embarrassed

Shallu!!!PartyParty  Salaam to your soch nayi reference and the take on aukat...History will repeat itself and Arnav now knows what the correct stance is--the protector!!  Brilliant take on Khushi's feelings as well...Yes, taking it slowly when it comes to her...a contradiction that works!LOL

Loved it!!!


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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 12:10am | IP Logged
Originally posted by srirao

@ Suvi,,,loved ur thoughts coz mine r the same ,,,wrote the same,,LOL,,,telepathy playing,,??
 
Thanks Sri Smile Telepathy ki bimaari hum sab ko lag gayi hai, thnks to IPK LOL
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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 12:11am | IP Logged
Ohh ... I forgot among all these drama & brain teasers!! Embarrassed
 
Happy Birthday Arnab! Smile Party

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Posted: 07 August 2012 at 12:13am | IP Logged
i liked ur interpretation about khushi and cindrella  but itsnt that a lil too cliched? dont we already have too many larger than life characters in the form of raizada's and maliks. it will be too dramatic for me to have khushi's past as royal/ rich as well. and anyway the royalty/ wealth doesnt translate too well on the screenSmile though i think dadi's doing a good job. 

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