Originally posted by hillydee
If my memory serves me right, Gulabiya was normally the first to resign to Sardhakai in the past where Sugni was concerned. It is Sugni's determination to let her see the light, why she suddenly started supporting Sugni.
If my memory serves me right, Sugni from day one has been shown as a girl who wants to break free from the usual rithi-riwaj that's happening in bundelkand and Gulabiya has always supported Sugni's Dream. She was the only person who supported her daughter and not once forced her into doing Rai or for that matter anything that Sugni does not want to do...in-spite of knowing that her daughter was dreaming big, she always supported that dream and her daughter.
Also, Vikram made Sugni feel bad when she almost gave in to her 'fate.' So no matter how wrong Vikram is, he never wanted Sugni to live the life of a Bedni, and he never looked down on Bednis.
I know that is why Vikram is hell bent on not telling the truth because he does not want Sugni to see her fate as a Bedni. Of course with the fact that he does not want to lose her. Lying is wrong, but I am not in Vikram's situation. It did not help matters when Sugni said she would kill herself if he was wrong.
i agree that Vikram is not in support of the Bedini System, but can you
tell me what he is actually trying to do now. His wife is alive, he has
not let Sugni know this truth, he has kept her in darkness and is
planning on marrying Sugni. Which means when the first wife is alive, he
is making Sugni his second wife, as per Hindu Marriage act Sugni's
marriage to Vikram will be considered equivalent to NONEXISTENT plus
Sugni will always seen in a Bad Light. Was this what Sugni wanted? No
and Vikram very well knows this. Doesn't he? If the truth will be out Sugni as she claims will anyway commit suicide so when he cannot doing anything then, what will he be able to do now by keeping her in darkness?
I was very disappointed at Gulabiya statement and yes I voiced it very clearly, because she of all persons should not even say that those words, no matter what point she was trying to make.
I thought she told the plain truth right on his face. What he was trying to do and Justify in the name of Love she just gave a name to it.
That is an insult to even mention that on behalf of Sugni. She could have voiced her anger in every other way, but not mention selling her daughter, no matter what point she was trying to make.
You see it as an Insult...I don't. What Vikram was doing was actually insulting Sugni as a person, her dreams and her love. He was betraying her trust and hope she had instilled in him. Gulabiya just termed what Vikram was doing.
Her delivery in how she handles Vikram was not very mature. She escalated the situation. You cant fight fire with fire, especially where your child is concerned.
This i agree. But when, like you said when its about your Kid nobody thinks and especially when the context is like what is mentioned in the show. You can't fight fire with fire and i agree and i am sure Gulabiya has learned her lesson which is why she chose to change her tactic.
As I have mentioned more than once, not one of those Thakurs who treated the Bednis like nothing, ever started out nice to them and help their family. They did the whole marriage thing, just to put perfume on what they were really doing, but at the end of the day, these women meant nothing to them. Plus they were paid for their services per night.
Vikram started out just being nice to Sugni and her family, I am sure he did even know why he felt so drawn to help them initially. He never ever wanted to see Sugni do the Rai dance,even at Adi and Amrita's engagement, and she tried to convince him that she was doing it for him, and he still did not agree.
The way i see it what
Vikram is doing is just the same...I mentioned this a zillion times
and am repeating it once again " Maan ke chaddar mein lapet kar aap bhi
Sugni ka apmaan hi toh kar rahe hai". Vikram may not pay her, but by
marrying Sugni like this is equivalent to her not being his WIFE.
If Gulabiya really wanted to help, she could have taken the time out to hear Vikram out, right away she said he was lying about recently knowing about his wife.
Check out their confrontation scene once again, Gulabiya did not say that he was lying about recently knowing about his wife. Instead when he made this statement she asks him after knowing that his wife is actually alive why did he not tell Sugni about it?
As a parent, one must think about the greater good for their child, deciding who your child should be with, does not necessarily mean you are doing it in their best interest, whether you realise or not. Children have to make their own choices, whether we like it or not. She said her piece many times, Sugni did not hear, all she had to do was have faith and calmly figure out how to solve the situation.
With all due respect only when you are a Mother (You not hinting to just "YOU") would you know and feel what it would be like to be in that situation. No Parent, in fact no mother will keep her eye shut after knowing the truth and wait till her daughter takes a decision. Ab karein kya Mothers are like that. Just because they have faith and belief in their child, they would never sit with arms crossed for the bad to happen.
Sugni is a sensible girl, and Vikram may not have the right method, but they both feel they are in love, and Gulabiya need to take more time out to realise that and act sensibly in this situation. Ranting and raving and using words like selling her daughter to make her point, will not solve anything, only distance Sugni more, and frustrate Vikram into keeping the lie. So, whether or not Gulabiya is a Mother and we are trying to see her point of view, for me the fact still remains her methods are not wise.
Sugni is a sensible girl, but is blinded by her love and respect for Vikram, which from her POV are true,because she has not seen the other part of him, the only witness to the true Vikram is Gulabiya...She will adapt to any method to fight for her daughter and that's exactly what she is doing...As for Gulabiya acting Sensible...I think from now on she will act Smartly she has already started that with the hospital seq...Chalo lets see where this is going to take her
Just my two cents, not meant to offend anyone.