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Posted: 22 July 2012 at 1:23am | IP Logged
Thank you for the lovely Post Rima... I think she has never seen Arnav romancing Kushi before..She always knew they had problems. But after kicking shyam out of the house she sees the sudden change in Arnav.. She holds Kushi responsible for everything which went wrong in her life..It's a shame that she can't recall those past memories like why shyam was never around when Kushi was working in RM and the jokes he said about his second marriage, Kushi's engagement ring and even she knew Kushi's fiance's name was Shyam... She has become purely selfish...I think she is using everything and everyone for her own benefit. She was like a mother to Arnav, but in my opinion Arnav is more like a father to her...He still takes care of her every single need but I think she cares for shyam more than Arnav...
What makes me so angry is that she never asked a single word about Arnav's kidnapping. It seems like she doesn't even care about it.. It's true he is saved but doesn't she think that she needs to know  what actually happened... But I am happy that Kushi is leaving RM.. It's a shame that Arnav couldn't clear her name in front of the family members before the contract but I am glad that she is leaving..If Payal is willing to listen to all the MIL husband crap it's her problem but happy for Kushi...

Pls tell me why she expects Arnav to give her more importance when she gives more to shyam?If she can blindly believe Shyam why can't Arnav?


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That's typical Indian mentality. 

If the son lies, it's because his wife asked him too... 
If the son cheats, it's because his wife is not good enough... 
If the son steals, it's because his wife has too many demands... 
If the son is rude, it's because his wife is teaching him that...
If the son kills someone, it's because his wife told him to...

As if the man is a brainless idiot that has no sense of what is right and what is wrong. And if that's the case, then he should not marry because it's not fair for a smart person like his wife, who can make him do anything, to be stuck with a moron...


Originally posted by farheen75

Originally posted by tia.o

Originally posted by rima

Originally posted by tia.o

Rima, you are forgetting that Anjali was sugar and spice and everything nice when her life was rosy and she was no.1 in Arnav's life. Now that she is alone and she is no longer no.1 in her brother's life, she is no longer sugary sweet.
I had said on the slap episode what a big mistake Arnav did by not speaking up. Now you will see the result.

agree tia. i always blame arnav for all torubles of Khushi. He brought her into the raizada house. he did not speak up for her and now she is facing the brunt. when will that guy be a husband in the real sense? for me the romance does not make her his husband.
Tia i also agree she was nice when things were going well. she turns bitter when things are not in her favor and she is not number 1...which is not goodness in the real sense



You see Rima, when everyone was going ga ga over how perfect Anjali and Arnav's relationship was, I said one thing which a lot of people did not like. I said that they have a exclusive relationship which won't let them form healthy relationship with anyone else. If they were husband and wife, that's fine because then they would be each other's life partner. But they are brother and sister and they need their own life partners who may not be content to stay on the sideline of their relationship.

Another point is that when everyone was saying Anjali is so good, no one noticed how manipulating she is because she was manipulating for good. Now people are noticing her manipulating nature because now she is doing the same for bad. She manipulated the family to accept Lavanya for Chotey's sake, she did it again to convince Khushi to train Lavanya, when Khushi left she did it to bring back Khushi and I can give you numerous example like that. And every time Arnav gave in. She never did.

She is truly ASR's sister.

Now about Arnav. No, he is not being a good husband because he is doing nothing to safeguard Khushi from insults. All he can think about is his Di's so-called fragile health. Just like Aakash has never been a good husband. He has been a more attentive husband. But I realized during Bubbly track that Aakash does not trust Payal even a bit even though he claims to love her. When he could think that Payal could be that cruel to torture a little girl, then is it any wonder that now he is back again his jerky behaviour?None of them know how to treat their own wives. They should never have got married.


U r absolutely right Tia...anjilli was always manipulative,arnav and anjilli never shared a normal sibling relationship they were too involved in each others life without giving space to each other which is very important for any healthy relationship...she was happy for his married life when she was happy herself but now when she isn't anymore happy and in a relationship she wants him to suffer as well.

My big issue with the cvs r that stop portraying Khushi as only a sexual object in a marriage where arnav's only interest in being accepted as a husband is to get her into bed...being a husband is a complete package and love is not only the physical aspect,agreed its a very important part of the package but not the only one...love is respect which he is not giving to her himself and not making others to respect her either...he should stand by her bcz she is not the guilty party here and if the Cvs make her bcz of anjilli then where is the nayi Sochi star plus is harping on abt? This is what always happen that the wife/daughter in law pay for everybody's crime in the susral.


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Posted: 22 July 2012 at 1:31am | IP Logged
Originally posted by ogive_nab

I read some posts on defense of Anjali..after read that i tried a lot to make sympathy n understand her condition but i couldn't. I couldn't b/c her self centric selfish type attitude..All ready her different behaviors were proved she is not quite happy to see ArHi's togetherness..her jealousy expressed my hubby is not with me then why will khushi be happy with her hubby!! But in last episode she was more aggressive in her attitude   n dialogues..she fully shown she doesn't tolerate the intimacy of ArHi in front Khushi. She said to her chotae * u r in love* ,* after marriage u have changed*, * u started to tell lie with ur di now*(though he didn't tell lie with her di) blah blah blah... but what is now she going to do for meeting with her hubby without telling her chotae?? Is it not love for her hubby?? If it is love, if she can love her hubby then why can't her chotae to his wife?? Iss discrimination ko kaya nam doon??Anjali ji apki jitna trif karu utna e kam hai!!!Pinch
Its high time for Arnav to understand not he rather than his di has changed b/c her dogmatic for her hubby..She is not his beloved di who always claimed Chotae *u r the most important person in my life* His di doesn't believe u anymore how much u do for her..her world is now revolving with her creep hubby's thought...So, Arnav leave ur di in her own dreamy world n u go forward n build ur own fresh lovely world with ur Khushi.
 
I completely agree with you!
She was always manipulative and I noticed that earlier itself. But atleast she was bearable even with those unnecessary giggles and acting dimwitted half the time though not really. But nowadays it's just getting too much for me to handle! It's getting on my nerves!
I  really don't know how ASR still manages to go behind her saying 'Di, dI!' It's high-time he understands her really!
Khushi is really the person he should understand and give support to. She has done more of him than he will ever deserve in my opinion and more for him than Anjali might ever do! Anjali just claims where Khushi actually proves!
I'm not able to sympathize with her at all! Not even forcefully! I'm actually sympathizing with Shyam right now! This is how much she's got on my nerves!
I'm feeling horrible for Khushi! And Payal too!
I want Payal too to leave the place along with Khushi! I'm tired of watching them having to bear the brunt always just because they're apparently outsiders and daughter-in-laws!
The whole RM except for Nani right now is just acting on double standards and I'm hating it! Dead 


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Posted: 22 July 2012 at 1:40am | IP Logged
what the CV's intended to show & what we saw, are very different
the CV's intended to show that anjali was not happy for the aspect of "lying", but from the looks of it, seemed like as if she had a problem with the roses being kept there for khushi & not for her


rima i lost my friday sleep & my saturday morning that scene was bad

to be honest now its become anjali is khushi's saut even though she is arnav "DI"

my god even to think about anjali its so disturbing

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Anjali is one of those sisters who portrays to love their brothers and are very sweet to their wives/partners but in their heart of hearts are extremely jealous...they are basically self-centered people who thrive on the attention they receive from their brothers and create a huge drama once they see the attention fleeting and resort to any tact to make the brother feel guilty..and unfortunately in real lives we do see a lot of parasites like that who go to any extent to ruin their brother's marital happiness...my sister is a lawyer and still now loads of divorce happens owing to the jealousy and interference of mother-in-laws and sister -in-laws just trying to keep their control over their son and brother even after their marriage ..and some of the stories are so gross that will put any sane person to shame...it is sickening but one of those complicated truth of lives...

I dont know weather CV s are trying to show Anjali in the same light or not but unfortuantely it is coming to us like that...what we are finding it very hard to digest only cze of her earlier characterization in the show...how can such a sweet and caring lady turn so vile all of a sudden..as you have said I could sympathize with her getting sad about the cake etc but how can a loving sister like her who has always portrayed to want sheer happiness for her chhote react like this...

But then although she has been sweet and very loving to Khushi but if we watch the episodes carefully there had been moments when some of her fleeting reactions had already pointed to these facts...I remember one scene in particular..It was during Khushi 's swami days...when dadi told her that Arnav wore a red shirt as per Khushi's insistence...her reactions were so complex...from that day I had this feeling that she is not as sweet as she looks to be...

What I disliked about yesterday's epi was how it was written...from Anjali's point of view Arnav had lied to her to spend time with his wife ..which again is one of the expected reactions and accusations that insecure people often throw to make the other person feel guilty but what I disliked the way the family was made to interrupt into such a private moments between husband and wife  and then the reactions...my heart cried out for khushi who was trying so hard to rectify the situation...it was absolutely gross and that made the scene more pathetic in my eyes...and how an aged lady like manorana was spitting vemon and other than just Arnav's a weak "Mami" there was no Kushi feel good expression from his side...I am indeed shocked at the CV s for doing that...they could create the same scene without making it so gross and completely butchering Anjali's character...

Now from Mishti's spoiler we know that Anjali will go to meet shaym without Arnav knowing...so could be that CV were trying to show this extreme scene where Anjali has no trust in her brother left and thinks that if he can lie to meet his wife so even she can do the same...well Anjali does need a massive eye opening..and as we all know that she needs to experince the wickedness of this man herself so may  be Cv are going towards that direction...but after months of dragging MU I hope they do it sooner...and do it in a dignified way...


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I read some posts on defense of Anjali..after read that i tried a lot to make sympathy n understand her condition but i couldn't. I couldn't b/c her self centric selfish type attitude..All ready her different behaviors were proved she is not quite happy to see ArHi's togetherness..her jealousy expressed my hubby is not with me then why will khushi be happy with her hubby!! But in last episode she was more aggressive in her attitude   n dialogues..she fully shown she doesn't tolerate the intimacy of ArHi in front Khushi. She said to her chotae * u r in love* ,* after marriage u have changed*, * u started to tell lie with ur di now*(though he didn't tell lie with her di) blah blah blah... but what is now she going to do for meeting with her hubby without telling her chotae?? Is it not love for her hubby?? If it is love, if she can love her hubby then why can't her chotae to his wife?? Iss discrimination ko kaya nam doon??Anjali ji apki jitna trif karu utna e kam hai!!!Pinch
Its high time for Arnav to understand not he rather than his di has changed b/c her dogmatic for her hubby..She is not his beloved di who always claimed Chotae *u r the most important person in my life* His di doesn't believe u anymore how much u do for her..her world is now revolving with her creep hubby's thought...So, Arnav leave ur di in her own dreamy world n u go forward n build ur own fresh lovely world with ur Khushi.
 
I completely agree with you!
She was always manipulative and I noticed that earlier itself. But atleast she was bearable even with those unnecessary giggles and acting dimwitted half the time though not really. But nowadays it's just getting too much for me to handle! It's getting on my nerves!
I  really don't know how ASR still manages to go behind her saying 'Di, dI!' It's high-time he understands her really!
Khushi is really the person he should understand and give support to. She has done more of him than he will ever deserve in my opinion and more for him than Anjali might ever do! Anjali just claims where Khushi actually proves!
I'm not able to sympathize with her at all! Not even forcefully! I'm actually sympathizing with Shyam right now! This is how much she's got on my nerves!
I'm feeling horrible for Khushi! And Payal too!
I want Payal too to leave the place along with Khushi! I'm tired of watching them having to bear the brunt always just because they're apparently outsiders and daughter-in-laws!
The whole RM except for Nani right now is just acting on double standards and I'm hating it! Dead 


Who has interest to hear from hero's mouth 24 hours only di di n di!!Sleepy n that di who only thinks about her own situation..n makes weak others mind doing emotional blackmail!! Khushi has done r8 to forsake RM..it enough for her each time she is slaying her own pov for sake of anjali n others..even nobody is in RM who can understand whats she wanna, whats her dream, whats her personal opinions.so, its the r8 time for taking this decision of Khushi..n i m waiting when Mrs.Anjali Shyam Manohar Ja will understand ppl don't get born to sacrifice their life only for making her life happy...Arnav, Khushi, Akash, Payel, Nani everyone has a life..So,anjali, don't demand anyone's life for ur  happiness that u r doing now with your chotae!!  


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Posted: 22 July 2012 at 2:12am | IP Logged
Originally posted by tia.o

That's typical Indian mentality.

If the son lies, it's because his wife asked him too...
If the son cheats, it's because his wife is not good enough...
If the son steals, it's because his wife has too many demands...
If the son is rude, it's because his wife is teaching him that...
If the son kills someone, it's because his wife told him to...

As if the man is a brainless idiot that has no sense of what is right and what is wrong. And if that's the case, then he should not marry because it's not fair for a smart person like his wife, who can make him do anything, to be stuck with a moron...


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Originally posted by tia.o

Originally posted by rima

Originally posted by tia.o

Rima, you are forgetting that Anjali was sugar and spice and everything nice when her life was rosy and she was no.1 in Arnav's life. Now that she is alone and she is no longer no.1 in her brother's life, she is no longer sugary sweet.
I had said on the slap episode what a big mistake Arnav did by not speaking up. Now you will see the result.

agree tia. i always blame arnav for all torubles of Khushi. He brought her into the raizada house. he did not speak up for her and now she is facing the brunt. when will that guy be a husband in the real sense? for me the romance does not make her his husband.
Tia i also agree she was nice when things were going well. she turns bitter when things are not in her favor and she is not number 1...which is not goodness in the real sense



You see Rima, when everyone was going ga ga over how perfect Anjali and Arnav's relationship was, I said one thing which a lot of people did not like. I said that they have a exclusive relationship which won't let them form healthy relationship with anyone else. If they were husband and wife, that's fine because then they would be each other's life partner. But they are brother and sister and they need their own life partners who may not be content to stay on the sideline of their relationship.

Another point is that when everyone was saying Anjali is so good, no one noticed how manipulating she is because she was manipulating for good. Now people are noticing her manipulating nature because now she is doing the same for bad. She manipulated the family to accept Lavanya for Chotey's sake, she did it again to convince Khushi to train Lavanya, when Khushi left she did it to bring back Khushi and I can give you numerous example like that. And every time Arnav gave in. She never did.

She is truly ASR's sister.

Now about Arnav. No, he is not being a good husband because he is doing nothing to safeguard Khushi from insults. All he can think about is his Di's so-called fragile health. Just like Aakash has never been a good husband. He has been a more attentive husband. But I realized during Bubbly track that Aakash does not trust Payal even a bit even though he claims to love her. When he could think that Payal could be that cruel to torture a little girl, then is it any wonder that now he is back again his jerky behaviour?None of them know how to treat their own wives. They should never have got married.


U r absolutely right Tia...anjilli was always manipulative,arnav and anjilli never shared a normal sibling relationship they were too involved in each others life without giving space to each other which is very important for any healthy relationship...she was happy for his married life when she was happy herself but now when she isn't anymore happy and in a relationship she wants him to suffer as well.

My big issue with the cvs r that stop portraying Khushi as only a sexual object in a marriage where arnav's only interest in being accepted as a husband is to get her into bed...being a husband is a complete package and love is not only the physical aspect,agreed its a very important part of the package but not the only one...love is respect which he is not giving to her himself and not making others to respect her either...he should stand by her bcz she is not the guilty party here and if the Cvs make her bcz of anjilli then where is the nayi Sochi star plus is harping on abt? This is what always happen that the wife/daughter in law pay for everybody's crime in the susral.





No Tia its the typical Pakistani mentality as well...as I am from Pakistan and married into a British Pakistani family u' ll be amazed to know that my in laws wanted a tulsi/Parvati brand of wife bcz my husband is the only son and he shared arnav's kind if relationship with his sisters and parents that's why it hurts a lot to see the same rubbish meted out to another girl on screen...I actually behaved the way Khushi did to gain respect and love which after 12 years of spending time in this hell I still haven't got...my point is that media is a very powerful medium so use it sensibly and teach the you g girls value of self respect which is very important for any relationship to succeed...people connect to characters more than to plain preaching then why not use it positively...if the cvs show a self respecting Khushi then I am sure it won't diminish the drama value of the show but it will make it more interesting...I am not asking them to show a feminist Khushi which is again another extreme but a well balanced Khushi,a human Khushi rather than an anjel Khushi who is inhumanly love with anjilli...I want arnav to go with khushi to bua ji's house bcz it's his duty to stand with his wife no matter what.

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Posted: 22 July 2012 at 2:16am | IP Logged
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Who has interest to hear from hero's mouth 24 hours only di di n di!!Sleepy n that di who only thinks about her own situation..n makes weak others mind doing emotional blackmail!! Khushi has done r8 to forsake RM..it enough for her each time she is slaying her own pov for sake of anjali n others..even nobody is in RM who can understand whats she wanna, whats her dream, whats her personal opinions.so, its the r8 time for taking this decision of Khushi..n i m waiting when Mrs.Anjali Shyam Manohar Ja will understand ppl don't get born to sacrifice their life only for making her life happy...Arnav, Khushi, Akash, Payel, Nani everyone has a life..So,anjali, don't demand anyone's life for ur  happiness that u r doing now with your chotae!!  
 
I agree with you! I've had enough of the word 'Di' for a lifetime now! LOL
Is Mrs. PooJhali seriously thinks that her huband's self-respect was hurt, then why couldn't she just leave with him? But no, she stayed back and tried to gain as much sympathy as possible. I feel as if there's hardly any difference between the way she thinks about Arnav and the way Shyam did. Both just regard him as the money-making machine. Both use their manipulative skills for gaining money and all the luxurious comfort that comes with it! PooJhali considers Arnav as the most important person because he doesn't let her do any work and because of him the whole house treats her like a glass doll which I'm actually waiting to break and tell them to go and find another toy to play with! I guess she would never think of that! I mean use yahan kaam karne ki kya zaroorat hai! Chotey hai na? 'Quoting her own words'. I don't know how she never found her husband being a gharjamai disrespectful considering the fact that she believes in rules and rituals sooo much! Plain disgusting really! Dead


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