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Posted: 22 July 2012 at 8:35pm | IP Logged
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agree with you about khushi understanding this man. however, before that happens and if i am to put myself in khushi's pom poms, he has to have a serious chat with her about that wedding of their's. 

how awfully shocking that whole thing must have been for her. no idea as to the reason, completely forced, only harshness offered, and when she was expecting a sweet interlude that started with bangles and bindis. how many people would have survived that? yeah she went a bit haywire, but not as much as i would have. i do believe khushi's essential strength (accentuated no doubt by the immense loss she suffered at a young age, if i think about it she has no one with whom she shares blood ties, gosh) and her unique sanka helped her weather taht storm.

now she knows why. but he still has to realise how bad it must have been for her and apologise. giving her a chance to free flow her feelings. she has told him there's no need to explain anything. but he still does need to if she's to fully recover. at which point i would like to see her look a bit shamefaced at bullying him in her own home. and them kissing and making up. no interruptions, yay. 

my thoughts, need not be correct, just sharing.



Di, Arnav has a difficult time expressing in thought's he expresses himself with his actions , Khushi is well aware of this. Khushi is the more mature half in this relationship she needs to be the one to get Arnav talking about the reasons , he will be the first one to apologize  , the sorry's are flowing very easily now. This was the problem Di I had with the Friday's episode where my reference to the flat soda. I wanted a monologue between the two leads we got Arnav's POV needed to see Khushi's . I am positive the CV's will close that loop today , I realize it's difficult to cover all angles in a 20min slot. 

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Posted: 22 July 2012 at 8:36pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by indi52

my sincere feeling is post wedding, writers have had a bit of a struggle with kkg's character. mainly because of sp and audience expectations.

credit to writers, they've held on as firmly as possible to the girl who fights for what's right, who's deliciously impulsive, who tries to find happiness in the happiness of others, who gives from her heart, who is bold and takes risks for what she believes in, who has grown to love a man she never realised she would but now that she does she'd do anything for him, and who has that special, unique brand of sanka.

i pray to dm she is allowed to become all that she can be.
 
Di I do not understand the generalisation of the SP bahu term - that way all the Channels have the same sacrificial tone which they have in women...
 
Coming back, focussing on SP...in recent years the shows on the Channel have been regressive, with lately only few where though they have tried to show stronger female characters they have been trapped in cliche  storylines.
 
Where as in IPK till wedding, Khushi was totally non-cliche...and after that they had to show the transformation - they did become inconsistent at times - but they didnt want to loose the child-woman quality of her and also not what the character's inherent virtues were - since Epi 1 they have showed Khushi keeping her family always before her - that too comes with a reason - she is always indebted to her Foster family...and thats now the same with Raizadas for her - she is not only doing it for the love for them, she is also doing coz she is grateful to them.

Arnav has to make her believe that she is completely the part of the family and has an ownership and belonging over them just like he has - thats why the Remarriage and also she will be able to raise her voice, not before that !!!

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Posted: 22 July 2012 at 8:44pm | IP Logged
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I understand the show being aired on SP have to keep many segments of the audience happy  and create drama ...But I am hoping one of these days Arnav stands up for Khushi and tells mami off the phati sadi is getting old . Degrading women to this extend it's difficult to digest at times. 

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Posted: 22 July 2012 at 8:45pm | IP Logged
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Di, Arnav has a difficult time expressing in thought's he expresses himself with his actions , Khushi is well aware of this. Khushi is the more mature half in this relationship she needs to be the one to get Arnav talking about the reasons , he will be the first one to apologize  , the sorry's are flowing very easily now. This was the problem Di I had with the Friday's episode where my reference to the flat soda. I wanted a monologue between the two leads we got Arnav's POV needed to see Khushi's . I am positive the CV's will close that loop today , I realize it's difficult to cover all angles in a 20min slot.

nice point. but i'm going to be a bit demanding on my favourite man now. if you can hold your sister's hands and say she must not believe he can lie to her, you can look deep into your beloved's eyes and say sorry for that night. not because she needs it, but because he need to, part of your character. 
but these are my codes of conduct. would not impose it on anyone. as long as creatives take us back to the relationship as we have grown to love it (and instinctively know if it's a bit off or not), i'm happy. me not writer, just avid viewer with too many opinions.LOLLOLLOL see how hard i'm working on a monday morning.

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Posted: 22 July 2012 at 8:51pm | IP Logged
Hi Priya - Stepping out of the SGs thread for a bit to read the crooner. Awesome post as usual. Had a question on something you mentioned 'story will suddenly take a leap before you understand it'. Can you elaborate on this a little? Thanks!
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Posted: 22 July 2012 at 8:58pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by indi52

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Di, Arnav has a difficult time expressing in thought's he expresses himself with his actions , Khushi is well aware of this. Khushi is the more mature half in this relationship she needs to be the one to get Arnav talking about the reasons , he will be the first one to apologize  , the sorry's are flowing very easily now. This was the problem Di I had with the Friday's episode where my reference to the flat soda. I wanted a monologue between the two leads we got Arnav's POV needed to see Khushi's . I am positive the CV's will close that loop today , I realize it's difficult to cover all angles in a 20min slot.

nice point. but i'm going to be a bit demanding on my favourite man now. if you can hold your sister's hands and say she must not believe he can lie to her, you can look deep into your beloved's eyes and say sorry for that night. not because she needs it, but because he need to, part of your character. 
but these are my codes of conduct. would not impose it on anyone. as long as creatives take us back to the relationship as we have grown to love it (and instinctively know if it's a bit off or not), i'm happy. me not writer, just avid viewer with too many opinions.LOLLOLLOL see how hard i'm working on a monday morning.
Di , I am demanding not only on our favorite man but our women to. Khushi has wronged him  just like he has her. Arnav needs to know how she met Shyam and they both need to revisit Khushi's engagement /broken engagement and Babuji's illness again for them to start on a clean slate their relationship. Babraba so many expectations and demandsWink Thr writer's are smart Di , I am sure they have a clear picture how they will unfold the drama both their past will have a lot to do in building a strong relationship.

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Posted: 22 July 2012 at 9:01pm | IP Logged
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"Di I do not understand the generalisation of the SP bahu term - that way all the Channels have the same sacrificial tone which they have in women...
 
Coming back, focussing on SP...in recent years the shows on the Channel have been regressive, with lately only few where though they have tried to show stronger female characters they have been trapped in cliche  storylines.
 
Where as in IPK till wedding, Khushi was totally non-cliche...and after that they had to show the transformation - they did become inconsistent at times - but they didnt want to loose the child-woman quality of her and also not what the character's inherent virtues were - since Epi 1 they have showed Khushi keeping her family always before her - that too comes with a reason - she is always indebted to her Foster family...and thats now the same with Raizadas for her - she is not only doing it for the love for them, she is also doing coz she is grateful to them.

Arnav has to make her believe that she is completely the part of the family and has an ownership and belonging over them just like he has - thats why the Remarriage and also she will be able to raise her voice, not before that !!!"



beautifully put. i just mentioned the fact of her not having any blood ties in an earlier response to kushikumari. how heartbreaking that line of hers to arnav on the night of the wedding, tonight i'm orphaned yet again. of course, he has to make her feel much more her sense of belonging and her haq, more than you'd need to do with those who have their own fams. i also love her child-woman. post wedding has been tough for writers, but hopefully things will resolve.

kkg is the most uncliched character i've seen in the longest time. tv, movie, anywhere. only khubsoorat's rekha comes to mind, but she was a tad too sweet for me. but more, and i have no idea why, zeenie baby in hare rama hare krishna. perhaps because both portrayed the most touching sense of vulnerability and also made a valiant bid for life, their own way. one chose a community/commune. the other, a family and its priorities. kkg is a first for tv as dev anand's zeenie was a first for our phillum duniya. she died in the end, hope kkg triumphs.

but i sometimes think sp is so sp, because the mass audience wouldn't let them be otherwise, and they are in the business of making the moolah Smile. look at the popularity of mrs halwai. there was a good story there, but how awful the telling of it.



Edited by indi52 - 22 July 2012 at 9:21pm

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Posted: 22 July 2012 at 9:06pm | IP Logged
Beena , Indi Hug...I am loving the discussion ..and agree with the points you are putting forward.
beena...we viewers want everything to happen fast...the CV's are thinking about stretching the things so that the show runs for years.. LOL 

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