Posted: 22 July 2012 at 9:16pm | IP Logged
Oh wow...this is so exciting! Thanks for all the replies everyone! :D Appreciate it.
Heyyy I see familiar faces!! :D *waves out* :D
Sorry for the delay in replying...
@quarky: LOL you are confusing me dude...first you post that amazing SYTYCD performance...and then actually hold this lame Salman-Isha act to that kind of a standard!??! What BLASPHEMY!!! Ok now I am doubting your taste...:P
lol...just kidding...but really how can you even begin to compare the two. In simple and short terms...that Sonya routine has GENIUS in it...whereas this Salman-Isha duet...not even close.
Anu/Himani: I can always count on you guys!
YAY...awesome points as always! Ahh...spoke my mind, thank youuu!
LOL I am toh very flattered indeed jee!
Thank you for stopping by! But are you sure you didn't just watch this performance more out of curiosity to see how it was copied from Sushant-Shampa's performance? :P lol
Hey Tani! LOL of course we disagree...that is our usual. :P Are you still watching DID or did you move on to JDJ instead? Waisse to be frank, I didn't quite understand why the posts were edited out...the discussion seemed pretty civil to me. :S And I didn't see anything wrong with bringing DID/Shakti in for making-a-point-purposes but hey, that's just me. *shrugs*
Ok now coming to the topic...I'll try to address all the points made by everyone in one post so please bear with me:
Honestly, my main problem with ALL of Salman's choreography has been that he never frickin' LISTENS to his music!
For all the people appreciating this choreography...I'd like to ask...couldn't these SAME steps be repeated for ANY frickin' song? Do these steps really correlate with THIS particular song? Nope. Salman could use those exact tricks he made Isha do on any song. And in fact he does. I watched that "paso doble" act too...and that is not paso doble. It's not. Isha's expressions (or lack of) were just laughable there. She just isn't THERE with her performance...she's just doing the moves mechanically...no soul to it whatsoever. So superficial and boring! And you can totally tell when the "expressions" are superficial like that. It's like she suddenly remembers OMG I have to look "fierce" here I better do that. It's so choppy and random and unconvincing.
I felt like laughing watching those "fierce" or whatever you'd name them expressions. Like does she even realize how ridiculous she looks?
Yana from last season was better than this girl even. And just ridiculous because she is supposedly trained in Kathak too. What a waste! There are FAR more talented people out there and she isn't one of them. As far as dance/art goes atleast. She is talented in gymnastics and acrobatics of course. I honestly can't understand HOW people can say that her level of dancing is so high. It's not. She's MAJORLY amateur.
And her bad luck too that she got a super boring and superficial choreographer like Salman. Who has trouble listening to his music. What lacks in his choreography is the genius. The art. The MOMENTS. The details. The intricacy, the layers. His choreography is so surface level. No depth to it.
For example, even with this performance...so the song was "pyaar tune kya kiya"...there is this haunting sort of sadness to this song. Now if Salman really was creative.he would be able to CAPTURE that haunting sadness. AND that would be goosebumps inducing. There is this melancholy emotion in this song. This hollow. Salman doesn't show any of that. Where is HIS own interpretation to the music? His OWN creativity? There's nothing there.
I mean, the song "ronde hai" and "pyaar tune kya kiya" are pretty different. The interpretation SHOULD have been different. But no, he uses the SAME story. And that too in a worse, unconvincing, random manner.
Tani...like you mentioned...there SHOULD be storytelling in dancing. SOME sort of emotion portrayed. Where was that in this performance? Salman and Isha were just doing there own random things. They're supposed to dance TOGETHER no? There was ZERO chemistry or connect between these two. Randomness all over the place. Was Isha taking a revenge on Salman? I suppose this was a "failed love story" types since the song went like "PYAR tune kya kiya" but Salman and Isha never convinced me of this "pyar". There was no angst between there characters...no push or pull. They were just doing their own things randomly.
Ok just look at the CONNECT between these two here! I don't care that Salman "highlighted" Isha or whatever. There should STILL be a connect in a duet performance.
And here...just see how Shampa is "controlling" Sushant and he is REACTING to it. It's brilliance. It requires dancing with the MIND as well as the body. Which Isha isn't able to do. And all this WHILE doing salsa. It's genius.
That "torturing" idea was there in that SYTYCD performance too. That's what gives you the goosebumps. The sheer EVIL of it. Salman didn't look "tortured" AT ALL!
And what was so scary about this performance, please enlighten me! People are saying that Sushant-Shampa's wasn't SCARY enough? Give me a break! I don't think horror DANCE performances CAN ever be scary in THAT sense. A horror act should be goosebumps inducing...you should be INVOLVED in the story...the characters should be convincing...the evil, the torturing, should be convincing. The body language of the dancer should be convincing...the expressions etc...THAT is the power. Not LITERALLY being scared. :S I wasn't "scared" by this Salman-Isha performance either! :S
But this Salman-Isha duet didn't give me any goosebumps either. It wasn't INVOLVING enough. The characters were RANDOM, half-baked, NOT thought out well..therefore they were not convincing. Not to mention the acting/expressions...the DANCING...the execution lacked MAJOR flow.
This Salman-Isha duet was all about the EFFECT. The superficial, surface level effect. Which people can so easily buy. And that's their point to no? Convincing people that this is SUCH an awesome act by creating that effect...when actually there is NO substance. As Terence would say, this was "all style and no substance". That is the perfect expression to describe this act really. No depth. These supposed "characters" of Salman and Isha were hardly FEELING anything. No layers in their body language as their dancing or layers in their emotions...in their interaction with each other. The "STORY" while dancing has to have a graph. A low point, a high point, and a conclusion. WHERE was all that in this performance? It was ALL one level!
Just creating that "effect" is not enough. There has to be a POINT to it. A flow to it.
And Isha ISN'T graceful man. She isn't. If THIS is what people equate to "grace", then God help our dance culture. Grace means flowy movements.. Isha is so choppy. You can see the preparation too. The EFFORT it takes her to transition from one move to the next. HOW is that good dancing? That is mediocre, AMATEURISH dancing at best.
THIS is grace people
And THIS is genius in choreography:
And I could care two hoots about Remo's opinion. I've never agreed with him anyways. But I'm surprised at Madhuri. She's like the epitome of grace, and ART. How she's liking this..
**edited offensive parts
Edited by tannipartner - 24 July 2012 at 8:31am