Originally posted by JanakiRaghunath
Yes, your point is valid, but Parashuram's avatar also teaches us that there are times when picking up a sword is required, because protecting Dharma is of utmost importance. Even Vishvamitra had brought Ram and Lakshman to defeat Mareech and Subahu. He didn't let them roam free in the name of ahimsa, did he? He may not have done it himself but he gave Ram and Lakshman the duty of punishing the sinners.
Yes. That was Kaarit hinsa. Vishwamitra didn't do it himself, but let someone else do it. Even Gargacharya also could possibly give Brahmadanda in that case to Kans (curse or turning him into ashes) but he didn't interfere into the order of events of destiny and yet participated in it by allowing Krishna to escape from the jail and keeping his secret so that Kans is killed by him eventually. Parshuram lifted the weapon with that argument of keeping dharma that way but he was never a Brahmin soul. A Kshatriya seed entered in Brahmin woman through a fruit.
Buddhism'a teachings are that ahimsa is wrong in all cases, and that even to protect good one must take peaceful methods only. I don't think either of Vishnu's avatars ever preached that.
Vishnu avatars were always willing for peace (and not war) with greatest possible efforts of explaining the sinners and forgiving them if they surrender/realize fault/correct the sin but had the ultimate aim of protecting good. That's right. I have nothing to say against this.
Though Shri Ram did give Ravan many chances to surrender, finally he waged war because there was no other choice. Same with Shri KRishna who did try to prevent the Kurukshetra war by trying to reason with the kauravas.
I respect Buddhism, but I believe that Buddha was a saint, like Sai Baba, who taught people to love each other and live a peaceful life, but I don't believe he was an incarnation of Vishnu. I think the posibility of Balarama being the incarnation makes more sense, since Sheshnaag is said to be an amsa of Vishnu as well.
Again well said. But your theory primarily revolves around Parshuram, Ram & Krishna. If you consider 22 or 24 avatars of Vishnu as per Shrimad Bhagwatam, apart from Vaaman, still Sanatkumars were ansh or avatars of Vishnu. Sage Kapil was Vishnu avatar. Lord Dattatreya was avatar of Vishnu. Rishabhdev (Jainism) was avatar of Vishnu. Vyas was avatar of Vishnu (and that too before Shri Ram in Treta - Possibly because sages lived long and Satyavati was ever youthful). And all Vishnu avatars had Brahmin traits and ahinsak deeds even when evil men were active around. So my point is that Vishnu can assume any qualities or any characteristic but the aim would be dharm sansthapan of SOME KIND OR THE OTHER.
Now I don't know about the authenticity of contents but reference is given of Shreemad Bhagwatam. Varaali and Rehan are also needed here for Buddha avatar discussion.
I am posting the paragraph of Buddha and Kalki from both the above sources. Interesting is that, Kalki will be Brahmin by birth but will again lift weapon for dharma like Parshuram (and also will be taught by Parshuram that thing I have come across many times in discussions in the forums). And do have a look at notes in the first link below Kalki avatar paragraph. Very interesting.
1st link part
**The 21st avatar is that of Buddha. (This is in the predictive tone and indicates the early period of the Kaliyuga).
*** "Thereafter, at the conjunction of two yugas, the Lord of the creation will take His birth as the Kalki incarnation and become the son of Vi??u Yasa. At this time the rulers of the earth will have degenerated into plunderers."
2nd link part
23) BUDDHA AVATAR (Incarnation as Buddha) : The twenty-third incarnation of Lord Vishnu was as Lord Buddha. In the Kaliyuga the demons were completely subjugated by the deities. Shukracharya the teacher of the demons instigated the demons to perform Yagya so that they could regain power and authority. Fearing this the deities prayed to Lord Vishnu for help. Lord Vishnu took incarnation as Buddha and dissuaded the demons from performing Yagya as it involves violence the demons stopped
24) KALKI AVATAR (Incarnation as Kalki) : At the end of Kaliyuga, when the sins would be 80, all pervading that the kings would themselves becomes thieves then Lord Vishnu would take his twenty-fourth incarnation as Kalki by taking birth in the village of 'Shambhal'. He would take birth in a Brahmin family of Vishnuyash. By killing and destroying the sinners, he would re-establish the superiority of Virtuosity and religiousness.
However, if Balram was Vishnu then Krishna had to be the 9th avatar since Balarama is older, and as per Bhagavatham that is wrong because Krishna was the 8th avatar only, after Rama. The 9th avatar had to come after Krishna.
Again this is based on theory of Dashaavatar.