Originally posted by rasyafan
Originally posted by princessofkesaroh please don't compare that incident here , nothing can be compared to it. , it was dark day.many people have made it just spicy issue to discuss rather than solving problem knowing the root cause and feeling for that girl.
coming to the main topic here
you are expecting taps to resist under the influence of alcohol?
do you know about such cases? i had mentioned in my first post.
u know there are cases where males are punished of rape even after consensual relation wid women , if women had mis interpreted him as her husband under certain conditions eg alcohol intoxication etc.
did u see wat i said in my first post?
did i say i m missing yuvraj?
that is y said u choose wrong post to discuss it.
u did not watch many episodes post leap right?
there was one episode where yuvi offers mukta drugged alcohol , but luckily she refuses.
so imagine if she had drank it.
same situation like rasya.
mukta went wid yuvi n drank alcohol willingly.
after drinking she was unconscious and did not resisted yuvi.
she does not remember what yuvi had done to her and becomes pregnant.
and later yuvi pressurizes her to marry.
than wat u will lable it rape or not?
if yes than rasya case is also rape
if no - than i don't have anything to argue wid you.
hypothetically we can consider many things if we want. like if iccha had not come still mukta would have been saved , as yuvi just wanted to scare her...so lets not discuss hypothesis.
just coz rathore is positive character , just coz taps was unconscious., just coz she accepted him after blackmailing , just coz the role is played by gud actor - it does not change the fact that rathore is rapist. he is.
your are saying rathore is gud man yuvi is characterless.
ok agreed rathore being a guy who made money on gambling is gud at heart , so ? that means he should be forgiven for what he has done?
just coz taps was negative .. rathore can get away.
so mukta was negative that tym , she had drugged meethi's drink.!
i accept yuvi's fault at the same tym feel for his loveless childhood.
his granny never showed him how to respect women , mai was the one who tried to defame mukta, whereas yuvi asked for forgiveness.
mai is worse than him.
and rathore such gud man , y he had to spoil taps under the influence of alcohol.
so if crime done under influence of alcohol can be pardoned?
If we take a lot of things hypothetically then there is a lot we can argue about but I am not going there for me the case is black and white on the following basis.
LIke I said before, the difference between the two cases is quite clear
firstly, and the consensual nature of the two cases makes both different just as Raghu was drunk then so was Tapu. She did not cry rape whereas Yuvi was drunk and Mukta was not drunk and she did cry rape
so my question is tom if two frns have drink together , and girl loses her sense in alcohol , does that means the guy can take advantage of her. offcourse both scenarion are different , but crime is same.
she was not in senses to say no - that means it is yes?
The second scenario being that no body was there to witness the crime in Raghu Tapu's case but Yuvraj's own mother Ichchha witnessed attempted rape done by Yuvraj
so just coz no witness is there it is not rape? so if iccha had not come and witnessed the crime yuvi should not be termed rapist ?
Third scenario Raghu and Tapu did not have law involved where as in Yuvraj's case law was involved to punish Yuvraj for rape
oh so tapu should have filed case? exactly that is wat i m trying to say, this is a fiction show.
firstly tapu was not even aware of wat has happened to her.
2nd to save veer rathore blackmailed her to marry
3rd she accepted him only after realising that there is no one else to support her. it was her majboori.
she took tym to accept the fact that it is rathore's child.
if this was reality , that girl would have defo complainted.
u know mukta was ready to withdraw case ,for iccha
so if law was not involved that was not rape?
Fourth Rape was declared in Yuvraj case and tthere was no case of rape where Raghu and Tapu are involved
sad rathore never got punishment
Fifthly Tapu invited Raghu in her room to celebrate and was very much aware that she was accepting alcohol from Raghu whereas Yuvraj lied to Mukta and lead her to his room with intention to take revenge and to RAPE.
u mean tapu called her ragu to have intimate relation?
oh god many guys misinterpret girls. inviting for party does not mean she is interested in that guy in that sense.
yuvi also thought mukta was interested in him , just coz she came wid him late nite , asked for his help and loved to pampered by his gifts.
Sixthly , you said just becasue Raghu is +ve character but then he is a positive character in Uttaran and very very protective of his loved ones and Yuvraj is a -ve character and whom does he protect and care does he care about Mai who loves him so much or Amla who cares for him so much and always behaves affectionately towards him her step son and Daddaji and His dada umed his father his mother does he feel any emotions towards anyone in his family and if he loves Mukta does anyone who loves someone would behave like an animal the way he did with Mukta...I don't think Mukta did him any harm to make him behave like a wild boar...
When has Raghu behaved that way towards Tapsya that way and he loved Tapsya and respected her and alwasy behaved as if she is a princess even with so many faults alwasy guided her with love
Ha you compare him with Yuvraj on what basis ...Raghu even cared for nani who he knows to be very very cunning and alwasy gave her his respect and his servants his dai jaan his parents in law he was always protected towards his loved ones always respected no matter what position or what status...Even Ichchha and Veer even after Veer threw Tapu out with his daughter on a rainy night not once he blamed Veer or had a fight or bad mouth him
Raghu was always against enemies who might harm his wife and his child anyone would be. Are all these traits of a -ve person?
Tell me when has Yuvraj gven his respect to anyone in his life ...
lol raghu is positive character and yuvi is multishaded character.
yuvi is rude , arrogant , does not know to respect and he has huge ego, he never got proper upbringing.
he always yearned for true love , and behaved that way just to hide his weakness so he is not vulnerable to others.
but raghuvendra pratap being a positive n responsible character should not have taken advantage of taps.
if he really loved her , he should have proposed her n married her.
not blackmailed her after raping.
regarding rasya love story , lol cvs planed them as couple.
so wat even we want yuvi to turn positive and take care of mukta.
he will be turned positive , he always showed some gud shades hidden between his negative behaviour , for that you have to watch all episodes wid yuvi. yuvi always had a soft n hard corner for mukta ,he was possessive about her too.
surprisingly inspite of so much gudness , tapu still divorced rathore y?
There is no comparison between the two just because he is young and handsome I am not crazy about him
Raghu is not criminal but Yuvraj has a criminal mind with psycho behavior and criminal tendencies that is what Uttaran has shown
yuvi is not crimial minded but he is bigdale rahizaada, i m just waiting for his rentry , probably than you will understand his character. if the role is not played by srj i m not even interested to watch this show.
just answer this
here was one episode where yuvi offers mukta drugged alcohol , but luckily she refuses.
so imagine if she had drank it.
same situation like rasya.
mukta went wid yuvi n drank alcohol willingly.
after drinking she was unconscious and did not resisted yuvi.
she does not remember what yuvi had done to her and becomes pregnant.
and later yuvi pressurizes her to marry.
see ur basic point to say rathore is not criminal coz tapu never resisted , there was no court case and he married to her.
so if there was no court case coz mukta withdrew it for icchama sake and married yuvi.
and later situation if yuvi turns positve and really loves mukta after marriage.
than wat u will lable it rape or not?
if yes than rasya case is also rape
if no - than i don't have anything to argue wid you.
your answer will end the discussion.
evidence of no signs of resistance does not mean it was not rape.
i can enumerate u different cases.
if taps had filed case, ragu would have been punished.
but she was too busy in veecha's life , by the tym she realized wat had happened to her , she had lost everything. and no one would have supported her.
where as in case of mukta , she turned positive and people came to help her and she was aware of the crime against her from day 1.
scenario are different
but crime is same but outcome was different
one got punishment for attempt and other inspite of doing rape his crime was justified by showing his marriage to taps.
ps - i like rathore , but never support wat he did to taps
no wonder wen she was about fall from cliff wen tej failed brakes of her car , she remembered mukta jogi veer iccha but not rathore.
rathore is just a father of her child.
until rasya union happens , i have to wait n watch wat exactly tapu feels for him.
rasyafan
defiler of woman how can Mukta like him 
who abused in the most demeanest sense 
