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ayesha_80

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Posted: 11 years ago

I'm back with my rant...on the "Missing links". After all, sequels ka zamana hai 😆...so, i thought of continuing with the post, where we had a nice, healthy discussion abt EHM's story/track and characters, which aren't making sense to some of us.

A word of caution before i begin! This post will be LONG...n not a very pleasant one...coz i'm hell mad at the CVs! Read it at ur own risk 😳😆

So...i'm literally on the verge of giving up on this show. NOTHING is making ANY logic to me..."sense" seems to have been thrown outta the window...and what all we see is utterly directionles track.

I'm one of those...who was very much intrigued to know n see how the CVs proceed with the "treatment" of cancer. My own fault...i shouldn't have expected anything. Still..unless we get to see things actually happening...we have a certain amount of "hope".

Yesterday was the day when Manvi's treatment "officially" started. Officially in the sense...that now her illness is known to one n all...no more of that hide n seek...n finally she has been taken to another city to the specialist(s). I was really looking foward to the episode...how things would proceed...how JEEVIKA would now take charge of it all...how Virat will be the sister's strenght at such a cruicial time n so forth.

But what we got in the epi...was nothing but sheer DISAPPOINTMENT for me...on ALL the fronts. I was sooo pissed off that i didn't feel like watching the epi after the first break. ...and i didn't watch too. So, my post is based on only the first part of the episode. I'm sure there would be some very nice behna scenes...and Manvi-Virat scenes too...but since, i haven't watched them...i won't write n analyze them.

Would love to have your feedback, comments...and especially, would like to know what u guys feel abt the way things are being shown. Sometimes i feel that i'm the only dissatisfied viewer...n maybe, become too critical...but the problem is, i CANNOT watch ANY show without infusing logic in it. Sadly...EHM, initially had this logic...but now it seems to have made a permanent exit from the show.

Starting wid my points...

1. The entry of Dr. Seema Kapoor...if i'm not wrong, she's the same person who guided Virat through to this cancer hospital n specialist...and Jeevika knows about this. Then WHY didn't Jeevika initiate some talk wid her? Something in general...n then be specific about Manvi? Isn't THIS the reason she has come to Mumbai, leaving her hubby n family behind? But chalo...this wasn't such a big issue for me...so, lets proceed further.

2. The meeting with the doc. I was sooo disapppointed!! I just have one request to the CVs...PLEASE, stop this cancer track, if u can't handle it properly...if u can't understand its sensitivity..n if you just have to show it as some very normal, simple disease. Otherwise too...u're not handling it logically...so, show some drastic end to it or w/e...but plzzz don't play with the patient's emotions. I really hope that NO cancer patient watches this show...coz if they do, i really don't know what effect it might have on them.

its understandable...the doc had to attend to an emergency...and hence, he couldn't devote much time to Manvi. But wait...couldn't the doc examine the girl generally? My life has revolved around docs and i don't know whether its true in every case or not...but it is said that checking even the pulse presents a complete picture for a doc. Here...couldn't the doc examine Manvi's marks, the pale color of her eyes n some other side effects that he must be knowing? The girl has had TWO chemo sessions...what abt them? She is undergoing treatment...taking medicines...the doc never bothered to ask abt them also? Chalo, prolly he read abt them in the file...but there was no need of asking abt them?? And...did he write any tests for her? Or just verbally told the trio that get these n these done?? I dunno...though the doc asked abt the marks, bleeding from nose n all...yet,.that sitting with him was so not convincing for me. Bless my doc...he seems like an angel to me today 😆

3. After a looong time, i'm writing about the sisters. I know that there are quite a few of u, who watch the show only coz of the Jeevika-Manvi bond...so, my apologies to them before hand.

WHAT kind of a sister's bond is this that the younger sister can't openly talk abt her disease, her pain, her suffering...ONLY coz her elder sister won't be able to take it? Yes, she had been hiding abt her cancer from Jeevika for soo long...but now, Jeevika KNOWS! Then, why is Manvi SCARED to speak abt her condition in front of her? Why did she have to HIDE it?? Ye kaisa rishta hai?

I strongly blv that the love and understanding sisters share... makes them easy to open up wid each other, they can share EVERYTHING wid each other, without hiding anything, without getting scared..without any ifs n buts. Then WHY didn't Manvi speak abt her illness..when the doc was asking her direct questions? Why was she fearing Jeevika's reaction?? Ye kaisa bond hai...that instead of making the younger sister strong...it is making her weak...and HIDE such important symptoms?? I know that in the long run this will again become a point where the sisters will be..."why did you hide this from me, Mannu n all". Haven't we seen that misunderstanding already...then why now...AGAIN??

Please don't say that since JM are like soulmates...J is like a mother to M...hence, that in some way deterred her from speaking. I'm NOT gonna buy this point. If Jeevika IS like a mom to her...she should've KNOWN all this by now...and she should've been discussing this wid the doc herself...telling him abt M getting weak wid every passing day!

4. I'm having a MAJORRR problem with the way CVs are taking Jeevika's character...and i seriously feel very bad abt it WHAT on earth is that woman doing...beats me completely. She doesn't know what her sister has been going through?? WHAT has she been reading/searching on the net?? Hasn't she read the effects of cancer on body?? Hasn't she read the effects of chemo...the most difficult therapy?? Doesn't she notice that her sister's hair aren't the same healthy anymore? Doesn't she see the obvious n clearly visible marks on her body?? Doesn't she recall how her sister fainted in Rishikesh?? Giving juice and those cucumbers...is THIS only what her resarch told her? Has she EVER talked to Manvi abt her ILLNESS----her pain, suffering, side effects, her reduced resistance level??

Shouldn't JEEVIKA have stayed back, instead of Virat? Shouldn't SHE have asked that what should be immediately done for the treatment...what the significance of those tests are (which Virat asked)...what is the stage of her cancer...and what abt the chemo sessions etc?

Just widening her eyes in dibelief n shock, as the doc asked those questions from Manvi...which world is Jeevika living?

And the weirdest part is...her shock also disappears in the blink of an eye. As soon as she came out of the doc room...it seemes as if she completely forgot what her sister said abt her bleeding gums, Virat abt her body aches on the night of her b;day...coz Jeevika was SOOO back to normal.

When Virat came out of the doc room...i expected her to rush to him...to ask abt what the doc said...but madam was busy in blushing n smiling!!

5. Sighh..my FAV couple...what have you done CVs?! 😡 I was happy to see when she called Viren. It was good that she called to inform him that they had met the doc...but the doc couldn't give proper time to them as he had to head for a surgery. BUT...i was banging my head when I heard Viren go all cheesy! Was THIS the time for all that "cute" n "aww worthy" talk? She told him that they have just come out of the doc room...he asked, how is Manvi...and THAT IS IT!! Nothing like..."what did the doc say?...don't worry Jeevika, everything will be alright.." And went straight to..."u don't miss me?? Say that u miss me..." *continuous head desk* Was it the TIME n PLACE for those "i love you's". What are the CVs trying to show JV as? Some immature, college going or teenage couple...who have nothing else except for saying these ILU's n having those sweet, mushy dialogues??

They are a SENSIBLE, MATURE, YOUNG couple...and they SHOULD have their own REALISTIC issues. No one is against these sweet n cute scenes...but are these the ONLY thing left for a married couple? Can't we see how their relationship progresses n strenghtens as life throws various challenges at them...and what could be a bigger challange than Manvi's illness? In that too...what all we get to see is the couple stuck at saying..."i miss u n i love u". Sorry...the scene may be really cute...but it didn't work for me AT ALL. If this was some late night convo b/w the couple...when they're thinking abt each other...THAT would've made sense. At this point, in the hospital...it was a complete NO-NO!

6. And the mystery remains...WHO is bearing the expenses of Manvi's treatment? Dadaji?? Or Viren can afford it on his own?? Or...the entire Vadhera family will put in their contributions?? Kuch toh bata logo...i'm going mad thinking abt this 😆😆

My rant over! I guess...this was what all we got in the first part. Thankfully, for you guy...i didn't watch the full epi...otherwise, this post would've become a never ending one. 😳😆😆 Sorry for torturing u guys with this super long post...which seems more like a questionnaire as i went through it now 😳😆

It was good to see Dadaji n Inder back (RAFL...CVs do stalk us, girls 😉😆). Dadaji knows abt Manvi's cancer. Interesting!! Why is he back now...has to be some new twist?!

And oh...i read the update...what happened to that dinner? Wasn't it supposed to be on the same day as the doc's appointment was? Bhool gaye kya CVs? I tell u...CVs amnesia is getting very severe...they better bring back Dr. Mannan for at least getting this one disease treated properly! 😉😆

P.S: Adding just one clarification! In case any one of u doesn't know...i WAS n AM a Jeevika fan...have nothing against the girl. In fact..i've always tried to see things from her POV...used to write her diary at one point in time...when the character was STRONG! Viren has always been my FAVORITE..and u guys know that i write only abt Virika. Its just that...the CVs have ruined their characters...they're messed up completely...n despite being their fan...i CANNOT justify this insanity n inconsistency. Hence, i come up with these points w,r,t their characters...as well as trying to identify the missing links in the show as a whole 😳

Edited by ayesha_80 - 11 years ago

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reshamc

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Posted: 11 years ago

Ayesha🤗 I wanted to hug u first, so haven't still read your vent.

Wow...it looks pretty long😆 You were too late in making this post, so I vented on our previous adda. I am sure we disagree with the CV's on the same points. Let's see...going for a read now😊

Also, I am copy-pasting my whole rant from that thread over here.

Humaare show mai story naam ki cheez to hain nahi...so I am putting this take in regard of the characters.

WARNING : This is going to be super-long. Venting at it's best😆

MAANVI

Kya hoga iss ladki ka...no words to sayShe is proving to be the living example of the words "Emotional Fool".

WHO in their right mind lies to a doctor???? Only so that J is not worried, she lies about her symptoms😲 I am sorry, but it felt that as if M is not interested in treating herself. Living each moment as you live and all that badi-badi baatein is good to hear...but has she ever thought that she has every possibility in the world that she may DIE. It may sound harsh when I say that...but it's a fact. A Cancer patient can die if not treated well.

And over here, Maanvi's treatment has been disastrous from the start.

1. It was delayed first coz Beeji could not muster up the courage to tell her that she needed treatment.

2. When M knew after 3 weeks of dragging...she wanted to attend that Maya-Virat party, coz somehow it was more important than starting the treatment and saving her life😡

3. In between she had 2 chemo sessions...and then she came to Chandigarh.

4. We still don't know what exactly have Viren and Jeevika done to exactly take care of her??? Swamini Bua had said M will get better medical facilities in Chandigarh as compared to Rishikesh...which is true, But have they ever taken Mannu to a hospital there??? We saw J asking Dr. M to give contact details of Dr.Bakshi...but has she done a follow-up on that???

5. IF really JV marriage has completed 1 year...M has cancer for over a year now. That is a REAL scare.

Now what good will this Mumbai trip do if M hides such imp facts of her disease from the doctor?????

JEEVIKA

1. She is disappointed to hear the appointment is cancelled. She reasons out with Virat we cannot waste a day...so he has to do something. Virat goes to meet his friend and she sits on the sofa.

2. Now when both the sisters were observing V from a distance with the friend...M had thw weird look coz apparently she is jealous. BUT why was J looking at them like that???? As if secretly cursing V...bolta to hai ki meri Mannu se pyaar karta hai, par dekho kaise dusri ladki se gale mil raha hai. I am sorry but that look with rounded eyes and observing them like that with those shifty eyes...it gave me that message

3. Finally when she is introduced to that Seema...J could ask some questions to her. She is also a doctor working in a Cancer institute, surely she will know something. Also, she is Virat's frnd, so you can approach her more freely. Ask some damn questions! Does she has no fear in her mind that M's treatment may not go very smoothly?????

4. Finally J knows Cancer is not an easy disease. Even after giving M all that boiled food, she has problems.

Jeevika - Maanvi

1. M hid her b'day body pain from her, J didn't question her.

2. M lied about the body marks being summer rashes, J didn't feel the need to check it herself.

3. M has pain in her gums while brushing and sometimes even bleed, and J didn't create any emotional crying scene.

Is this the same Jeevika who created such a huge uproar in her Chooda ceremony???? Just coz M was a li'l late in telling her about an attack. Noo, I am not asking for a shouting J...but some reaction would be appreciated.

WHY THE HELL are they sleeping in different rooms???? J wants pal-pal-ki-khabar of M, what better way than sharing a room!! She leaves her husband to see her sister in the middle of the night...and here, she willingly goes and sleeps in a separate room😲

Has J lost all her sense😡

Jeevika - Viren

The phone convo...Perfect😳

The timing...couldn't be more worse👎🏼

She is still IN the hospital. She has just known some hidden information about her Mannu's Cancer. And she is busy cooochie-cooing with Viren 😲 😲

The scene was utterly cute😛 Who can say they have been married for a WHOLE year?? J was blushing like a one-day old bride...KD's cheeks were actually full red😳 And Viren senses that her wife has turned into a bottle of ketchup and keeps the phone...aww😃

I was smiling like a goof the entire time😆

VIRAT

The only sensible guy in the whole fiasco. Pleeeasee remain sensible. No need to turn into a full-time sevak of Maanvi madam.😕

M has a doting elder sis, who more than loves to take care of her. Let J do that.

STOP giving M each and every room in the house she wishes for. You are not a genie...that you have to fulfill her every wish. At this rate, you may have to sleep in the living room very soon.

Whatever the doc said about the medicines...share that with your Bhabhi. Yes, we know she is not bothered. But she has a right to know. Go tell her.

We like you Virat. And we know you love Maanvi. BUT please, pretty please, in your own words...you are just a friend of hers! Be that. Stop giving her medicines and stuff...that's the job of Fikkar Minister😆

Finally, I have to say, Welcome back Dadaji and Inder Chachu. We missed ya🤗

So, apparently, they know about M's Cancer. And Dadaji is sure M will overcome this difficult phase of life with her strength and liveliness. Awww...Dadaji adores Mannu😳

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Aqibaa_19

@Aqibaa_19

Goldie

Posted: 11 years ago

ayesha its good to see a post from u ...so this is our new venting place? lol...

n thats a long post!!...ayesha i did nt watched yesterdays full episode..watched the jv phone convo n some random parts...but i read the whole of ur post...really...n u made complete sense..well when u dont??...anyways coming to the show this is not my show...this is not the show which had kept me glued to its episodes n made me join the forum..we have been discussing this n even now i write that the show has lost its feel ,its magic, its sense n logic...😔...

ok coming back to the post..👏..agree with all your points..

.no you r not wrong ayesha,..this is the same person who guided virat to this hospital..n yes the meeting was extremely disappointing...i already said in your other post that it looks like a trip than for treatment,..the cvs are not realising the seriousness of cancer.,,.n its really sad...they should not show it when they cant handle it..n gor gods sake they did nt even inform her former doctor or mannan...i had thought that it is gonna be realistic but the way they are handling the cancer track is disgusting..this track is very disappointing n dont know how i am going to bear this track...n i dont see it ending any soon..

coming to the sisters..i like the sisters but they are definitely not my fav.. i could never relate to their bonding...but still the sisters scenes had a charm but unfortunately it has lost its charm now...atleast for me,,..their scenes look repetitive to me..even the scene where jevika tried to convince manvi to stay back did not go well with me..n what sort of khoon ka rishta is this where they cant even talk openly with each other..i know sisters share everything n is really open to each other..i felt like banging my head somewhere when i read that she had hide her symptoms..has she lost her mind??..i am sry but no person in their sense is going to lie abt the symptoms of cancer..n.pls dont tell me that this will again lead to a misunderstanding between the sisters...

jevika's characeter...hmmmh..what should i say??...she did nt even checked the symptoms which she read abt..she is really bad at multi tasking but atleast do one task well...but how can we blame her..she is like the cvs...who can only concentrate one thing at a time...like the cvs are concentrating on love story so all things are forgotten...i am not even liking how manvi is with her disease..it seems like she dont want to live..

virika...my fav couple which is the reason for my watching the show..what have they done to virika ...???they were supposed to be the matured couple..when resham said that there was a phone convo i was so excited..i immediately watched it..it was really sweet...i liked their convo but the timing could not have been worse...i agree this was supposed to be a late night convo not at the hospital..n sadly i dont see any progress in their relationship...i agree that the cvs are concentrating on other things but atleast show some sensible things..they are just trying to satisfy the fan base..will we ever get to see a matured sensible virika track??...😔

n yes the mystery remains who is bearing the expense of the treatment..dont think much ayesha we will never get our answer...they forgot the dinner thing just like the fast,..they should call dr mannan..i miss the guy..

OMG ayesha look at the length of my post... ..,thank god i too did nt watch the whole episode..

in short m very disappointed with the show..first the insensible handling n on top of that karan is not there...what is there to look forward to...

Edited by fairyland13 - 11 years ago

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misaki

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Posted: 11 years ago

ok ayesha...

first thing first...this whole missing links thing difinetly not goin2 stop !!!..its goin2 go on as long as the soap does...soap esp hindi one nd logic never seem 2 go hand in hand!!!

nd the wrst thng is that ppl seem 2 ignore these huge blundrs all the time..sometimes i thnk its the veiwers fault fr puttin up with such crap!!!

well addin 2 ur pnts..since i saw the entire epi...

1.virat asked the doc abt the effect her treatments goin2 have...but wen jeevika (finally madam got the time 2 thnk abt her sis)...he shrugs it off nd tells her 2 frget abt it!!...im sorry but y is he hidin such an important fat abt her treatment frm her??...i mean why is it such a big secret??..watl happen if u jst tell her?..dont knw y tr makin this huge deal abt jeevika not able 2 handle stff..wen clearly all they shud be thnkin nd doin nw shud be only fr manvi...seriously wats the POINT!!!...im rackin my brain tryin 2 thnk a reason fr it!..(dont thnk tr is one)!

2.is this the same jeevika that said she wud wn2 knw wat manvis doin evry sec..evry min...

cz i dont see that j anymre??...like u pointed out..she was the least bit concerned 2 ask wat manvis goin thru..(ya seriously isnt bein sisters all abt sharin ur biggest fears nd ur pain with each otr?)...she has no idea abt her side effects..hws that possible?..u can clearly see it!!..unless shes blind!..again shes not concerned abt wat the doc has 2 say!..its like virats mre cncrned than she is...hated the whole phone convo...ur sis is here in the cancer hospital nd u r thnkin abt romance??!..who does that?...stupid cvs..seriously change ur script writers...!!!tr gettin on my nerves..tr not small stf that u cn ignore anymre...

3.again virat ws shown bein concerned mre abt manvi..he gets her evrytn she needs..all j does is tell manvi it ws virat who had done it not her...!..i thot the show ws EHMMBH!..

...nw finally the main point..is it nly me did anyone find it wierd that jeevs slept in anotr room while manvi slept byherself..remember the n8 wn jeevs insisted on sleepin with manvi against virens wish??..nw that she finaly has the oppurtunity y dint she decide 2 do it??..manvis sufferin frm cancer she lready knws that she had trouble breathin sometime back..bein a concerned sis..mre like OTT concerned mother..wudnt u be scred if that wer 2 repeat again..??..if i was..ok if anyone wer in that position they wud definetly nevr leave manvi alone in a room..esp knwin anytn cud happen at anytime...

so that ws the main thn that kept buggin me after watchin the epi..

oh nd i 2 thot that doc was bein stupid!..maybe the actors fault!..watevr it ws...seemed like he dint care..indifference was written all over his face!...i already posted it on IF..seems like except me nd u no one lse thot he ws wierd!...

again good post!

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ita_04

@ita_04

Goldie

Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ayesha_80

4. I'm having a MAJORRR problem with the way CVs are taking Jeevika's character...and i seriously feel very bad abt it WHAT on earth is that woman doing...beats me completely. She doesn't know what her sister has been going through?? WHAT has she been reading/searching on the net?? Hasn't she read the effects of cancer on body?? Hasn't she read the effects of chemo...the most difficult therapy?? Doesn't she notice that her sister's hair aren't the same healthy anymore? Doesn't she see the obvious n clearly visible marks on her body?? Doesn't she recall how her sister fainted in Rishikesh?? Giving juice and those cucumbers...is THIS only what her resarch told her? Has she EVER talked to Manvi abt her ILLNESS----her pain, suffering, side effects, her reduced resistance level??
Shouldn't JEEVIKA have stayed back, instead of Virat? Shouldn't SHE have asked that what should be immediately done for the treatment...what the significance of those tests are (which Virat asked)...what is the stage of her cancer...and what abt the chemo sessions etc?
Just widening her eyes in dibelief n shock, as the doc asked those questions from Manvi...which world is Jeevika living?
And the weirdest part is...her shock also disappears in the blink of an eye. As soon as she came out of the doc room...it seemes as if she completely forgot what her sister said abt her bleeding gums, Virat abt her body aches on the night of her b;day...coz Jeevika was SOOO back to normal.
When Virat came out of the doc room...i expected her to rush to him...to ask abt what the doc said...but madam was busy in blushing n smiling!!

5. Sighh..my FAV couple...what have you done CVs?! 😡 I was happy to see when she called Viren. It was good that she called to inform him that they had met the doc...but the doc couldn't give proper time to them as he had to head for a surgery. BUT...i was banging my head when I heard Viren go all cheesy! Was THIS the time for all that "cute" n "aww worthy" talk? She told him that they have just come out of the doc room...he asked, how is Manvi...and THAT IS IT!! Nothing like..."what did the doc say?...don't worry Jeevika, everything will be alright.." And went straight to..."u don't miss me?? Say that u miss me..." *continuous head desk* Was it the TIME n PLACE for those "i love you's". What are the CVs trying to show JV as? Some immature, college going or teenage couple...who have nothing else except for saying these ILU's n having those sweet, mushy dialogues??
They are a SENSIBLE, MATURE, YOUNG couple...and they SHOULD have their own REALISTIC issues. No one is against these sweet n cute scenes...but are these the ONLY thing left for a married couple? Can't we see how their relationship progresses n strenghtens as life throws various challenges at them...and what could be a bigger challange than Manvi's illness? In that too...what all we get to see is the couple stuck at saying..."i miss u n i love u". Sorry...the scene may be really cute...but it didn't work for me AT ALL. If this was some late night convo b/w the couple...when they're thinking abt each other...THAT would've made sense. At this point, in the hospital...it was a complete NO-NO!

i'll just stick to these two points in ur post...

jeevika was almost officially killed yesterday...first through the timing of her lovey dovey talks with viren n second her absolute interest in shopping when the doctor specifically asked about symptoms n manvi was in a visible unease speaking about them...
even after manvi did mention about the marks...the next thing we see is jeevika blushing over "i miss u virenji"

the phone over..she cums back home...is seen relaxing...then jumping up n down over the prospect of mumbai darshan...
not so long ago she was livid about not being informed about manvi's symptoms...today she never utters a word of complaint even after virat tells about the b'day incident about which jeevs obviously had no clue

i guess the virika convo was in quest of pleasing fans so all we get is "i luv u" n "u luv me" stuff...[sorry its not about mature people who admire the couple]
n not 2 mention the doc...who has a miraculous 99% success rate😲...but doesn't even care to cross check what treatment the previous doc had been following..coz as far as i know..no one ever met dr.bakshi n the updated reports were never taken from him...in fact i've no idea what those reports,which this doc was checking,actually could be,considering these people never bothered to have a chat with either manan or dr.bakshi...n getting the details of her ongoing treatment...

i just give this track one more chance to salvage itself...after all the mumbai darshan while the doc is on break...i hope the so called tests get done n manvi actually seems lyk a terminal ill patient...
Edited by ita_04 - 11 years ago

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Aqibaa_19

@Aqibaa_19

Goldie

Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: misaki
ok ayesha...
first thing first...this whole missing links thing difinetly not goin2 stop !!!..its goin2 go on as long as the soap does...soap esp hindi one nd logic never seem 2 go hand in hand!!!
nd the wrst thng is that ppl seem 2 ignore these huge blundrs all the time..sometimes i thnk its the veiwers fault fr puttin up with such crap!!!
well addin 2 ur pnts..since i saw the entire epi...
1.virat asked the doc abt the effect her treatments goin2 have...but wen jeevika (finally madam got the time 2 thnk abt her sis)...he shrugs it off nd tells her 2 frget abt it!!...im sorry but y is he hidin such an important fat abt her treatment frm her??...i mean why is it such a big secret??..watl happen if u jst tell her?..dont knw y tr makin this huge deal abt jeevika not able 2 handle stff..wen clearly all they shud be thnkin nd doin nw shud be only fr manvi...seriously wats the POINT!!!...im rackin my brain tryin 2 thnk a reason fr it!..(dont thnk tr is one)!
2.is this the same jeevika that said she wud wn2 knw wat manvis doin evry sec..evry min...
cz i dont see that j anymre??...like u pointed out..she was the least bit concerned 2 ask wat manvis goin thru..(ya seriously isnt bein sisters all abt sharin ur biggest fears nd ur pain with each otr?)...she has no idea abt her side effects..hws that possible?..u can clearly see it!!..unless shes blind!..again shes not concerned abt wat the doc has 2 say!..its like virats mre cncrned than she is...hated the whole phone convo...ur sis is here in the cancer hospital nd u r thnkin abt romance??!..who does that?...stupid cvs..seriously change ur script writers...!!!tr gettin on my nerves..tr not small stf that u cn ignore anymre...
3.again virat ws shown bein concerned mre abt manvi..he gets her evrytn she needs..all j does is tell manvi it ws virat who had done it not her...!..i thot the show ws EHMMBH!..
...nw finally the main point..is it nly me did anyone find it wierd that jeevs slept in anotr room while manvi slept byherself..remember the n8 wn jeevs insisted on sleepin with manvi against virens wish??..nw that she finaly has the oppurtunity y dint she decide 2 do it??..manvis sufferin frm cancer she lready knws that she had trouble breathin sometime back..bein a concerned sis..mre like OTT concerned mother..wudnt u be scred if that wer 2 repeat again..??..if i was..ok if anyone wer in that position they wud definetly nevr leave manvi alone in a room..esp knwin anytn cud happen at anytime...
so that ws the main thn that kept buggin me after watchin the epi..
oh nd i 2 thot that doc was bein stupid!..maybe the actors fault!..watevr it ws...seemed like he dint care..indifference was written all over his face!...i already posted it on IF..seems like except me nd u no one lse thot he ws wierd!...
again good post!

yes i too found it weird that jevika slept in another room...back in chandigarh she wanted to sleep with manvi..but now when she should sleep with her she is jumping around for shopping n mumbai darshan..

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bluerobin

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Posted: 11 years ago

yaar , this missing links post is just great. You have written all the points that wander in my mind while watching this serial. Actually a person suffering from cancer after undergoing chemotherapy won't be able to move away from the bed because of pain. Here manvi is just running and playing, its just unbelievable to think she is a cancer patient. And manvi's dialogues like " mein cancer ko bhi haazana sikha doonghi , hum cancer se muqabla karaenghe " , after chemotherapy subjecting you to powerful radiation nobody will be having the strength to say all these dialogues. And what to say jeevika and viren , they are not bothered whatever is happening around them , their sorroundings...whenever viren jeevika are on screen viren starts teasing her Mr. Vadhera , and the so called matured couple start behaving like 9th std 10th std teenage kids . Viren showed too much concern when jeevika's leg broke, here maanvi is suffering from cancer which may even cause death . His behaviour is as if even if maanvi dies of cancer , iam not going to loose anything as long as my teenage wife jeevika is with me. The only person concerned about maanvi is virat . My only wish is that they have turned the whole story in to something else, at least keep virat's character intact .

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misaki

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: fairyland13

yes i too found it weird that jevika slept in another room...back in chandigarh she wanted to sleep with manvi..but now when she should sleep with her she is jumping around for shopping n mumbai darshan..

xactly!!!...hw can she be so happy nd joyous wn her sister..fr her her LIFE!...(blah)...is sufferin frm cancer??!!..totally unforgivable!..pls did u notice..last time virman hid stff frm her..she ws furious!!!...nw she jst go2 knw abt her bday thn frm virat!..she dint evn ask them anytn abt it!..its like she cmpletely forgot abt the fact that they r here fr manvis cancer treatment !!!...sriously..jeevs so doent make sense anymre..never really liked her.tht mch..nd yes watch it nly fr virman.yep hardcore virman fan!...but they cnt jst ruin characters like this.nd the storyline...looks like im gonna have try super hard 2 like jeevs...esp ftr all this

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Loveleen Brar

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Posted: 11 years ago

Originally posted by: ayesha_80
I'm back with my rant...on the "Missing links". After all, sequels ka zamana hai 😆...so, i thought of continuing with the post, where we had a nice, healthy discussion abt EHM's story/track and characters, which aren't making sense to some of us.

Making sense to alot of us actually and mostly you, I love your posts, there is no fighting or anything just agreement, aur sequels ka sach mein zamaana hai yaar

A word of caution before i begin! This post will be LONG...n not a very pleasant one...coz i'm hell mad at the CVs! Read it at ur own risk 😳😆

Itna waqt tere post ko reply kar kar ke risk visk sab bhool gaye hum

So...i'm literally on the verge of giving up on this show. NOTHING is making ANY logic to me..."sense" seems to have been thrown outta the window...and what all we see is utterly directionles track.

Logic kya hai balak sab iss duniya ke moh maya hai, Sab chinta upar waale par chod do aur prem baaton

I'm one of those...who was very much intrigued to know n see how the CVs proceed with the "treatment" of cancer. My own fault...i shouldn't have expected anything. Still..unless we get to see things actually happening...we have a certain amount of "hope".

Ayesha, I have realized many things about you from this forum, the biggest is that you are a very, empasis on very, logical person. And you are right we shouldn't have expected anything from the CVs but what about those people, I hope there aren't any, that watch this show to get courage to fight against cancer and win. This show probably shatters their confidence and trust in themselves.

Yesterday was the day when Manvi's treatment "officially" started. Officially in the sense...that now her illness is known to one n all...no more of that hide n seek...n finally she has been taken to another city to the specialist(s). I was really looking foward to the episode...how things would proceed...how JEEVIKA would now take charge of it all...how Virat will be the sister's strenght at such a cruicial time n so forth.

I don't really think about what is going to happen in the next epi cuz whenever I do that the complete opposite happens. Arre yaar ab aise bolo gi toh karab lage ga, Officially started. And it raises my expectations from Jeevika as well. The episode after the Jeevika found out and she stops Manvi we saw her calling Dr. Manan. Then researching on cancer and I got my hopes high that maybe this will go well.

But what we got in the epi...was nothing but sheer DISAPPOINTMENT for me...on ALL the fronts. I was sooo pissed off that i didn't feel like watching the epi after the first break. ...and i didn't watch too. So, my post is based on only the first part of the episode. I'm sure there would be some very nice behna scenes...and Manvi-Virat scenes too...but since, i haven't watched them...i won't write n analyze them.

Yeh sirf first part hai epi ka, saara epi dekh ke kya karti kitaab likti😲 Mat dekh tu baaki epi disappoint hogi, par baaki epi mein Jeevika ne ek baar Virat se poocha ki doc ne kya kaha par Virat ne nahin bataya🤢

Would love to have your feedback, comments...and especially, would like to know what u guys feel abt the way things are being shown. Sometimes i feel that i'm the only dissatisfied viewer...n maybe, become too critical...but the problem is, i CANNOT watch ANY show without infusing logic in it. Sadly...EHM, initially had this logic...but now it seems to have made a permanent exit from the show.

U are right intially this was such a logical and amazing show now logic door door tak dikhayi nahin padta

Starting wid my points...

1. The entry of Dr. Seema Kapoor...if i'm not wrong, she's the same person who guided Virat through to this cancer hospital n specialist...and Jeevika knows about this. Then WHY didn't Jeevika initiate some talk wid her? Something in general...n then be specific about Manvi? Isn't THIS the reason she has come to Mumbai, leaving her hubby n family behind? But chalo...this wasn't such a big issue for me...so, lets proceed further.

I don't really care about teh Seema chick so I am moving on

2. The meeting with the doc. I was sooo disapppointed!! I just have one request to the CVs...PLEASE, stop this cancer track, if u can't handle it properly...if u can't understand its sensitivity..n if you just have to show it as some very normal, simple disease. Otherwise too...u're not handling it logically...so, show some drastic end to it or w/e...but plzzz don't play with the patient's emotions. I really hope that NO cancer patient watches this show...coz if they do, i really don't know what effect it might have on them.

its understandable...the doc had to attend to an emergency...and hence, he couldn't devote much time to Manvi. But wait...couldn't the doc examine the girl generally? My life has revolved around docs and i don't know whether its true in every case or not...but it is said that checking even the pulse presents a complete picture for a doc. Here...couldn't the doc examine Manvi's marks, the pale color of her eyes n some other side effects that he must be knowing? The girl has had TWO chemo sessions...what abt them? She is undergoing treatment...taking medicines...the doc never bothered to ask abt them also? Chalo, prolly he read abt them in the file...but there was no need of asking abt them?? And...did he write any tests for her? Or just verbally told the trio that get these n these done?? I dunno...though the doc asked abt the marks, bleeding from nose n all...yet,.that sitting with him was so not convincing for me. Bless my doc...he seems like an angel to me today 😆

I was surprised that this was the meeting with the doctor, the meeting they had come to mumbai for, what was this? He sat there and asked Manvi about three symptoms and didn't look at her paleness or how she looked so weak now. This is the Anil Bharadwaj, kahan se genius doc hai Virat.

3. After a looong time, i'm writing about the sisters. I know that there are quite a few of u, who watch the show only coz of the Jeevika-Manvi bond...so, my apologies to them before hand.

WHAT kind of a sister's bond is this that the younger sister can't openly talk abt her disease, her pain, her suffering...ONLY coz her elder sister won't be able to take it? Yes, she had been hiding abt her cancer from Jeevika for soo long...but now, Jeevika KNOWS! Then, why is Manvi SCARED to speak abt her condition in front of her? Why did she have to HIDE it?? Ye kaisa rishta hai?

I strongly blv that the love and understanding sisters share... makes them easy to open up wid each other, they can share EVERYTHING wid each other, without hiding anything, without getting scared..without any ifs n buts. Then WHY didn't Manvi speak abt her illness..when the doc was asking her direct questions? Why was she fearing Jeevika's reaction?? Ye kaisa bond hai...that instead of making the younger sister strong...it is making her weak...and HIDE such important symptoms?? I know that in the long run this will again become a point where the sisters will be..."why did you hide this from me, Mannu n all". Haven't we seen that misunderstanding already...then why now...AGAIN??

Please don't say that since JM are like soulmates...J is like a mother to M...hence, that in some way deterred her from speaking. I'm NOT gonna buy this point. If Jeevika IS like a mom to her...she should've KNOWN all this by now...and she should've been discussing this wid the doc herself...telling him abt M getting weak wid every passing day!

This was a major put off, btw. Firstly Jeevika will only be more worried if Manvi doesn't get proper treatment. And if here everyone says that Manvi is such a great behna, no, I would as an older sister be more happy if my sister told me everything rather than hide the painful truths from me. I thought these two always said that they never hide anything from each other but I have only seen them hide stuff from each other. But this is drama, still drama and these serials are based off of real life happenings so they can't just act like it is a fairytale. Do they not realize how much this could hurt someone. In SPA Manvi got an award for being a brave girl fighting against cancer, many cancer patients must have been motivated by Manvi's badi badi baatein but then they show cancer like it is some sardi bukar. 😡 Then a couple weeks later they will show Manvi all better dancing in the rain with Virat babu. With this kind of treatment a cancer patient would not get proper treatment. The cvs really need a reality check.

4. I'm having a MAJORRR problem with the way CVs are taking Jeevika's character...and i seriously feel very bad abt it WHAT on earth is that woman doing...beats me completely. She doesn't know what her sister has been going through?? WHAT has she been reading/searching on the net?? Hasn't she read the effects of cancer on body?? Hasn't she read the effects of chemo...the most difficult therapy?? Doesn't she notice that her sister's hair aren't the same healthy anymore? Doesn't she see the obvious n clearly visible marks on her body?? Doesn't she recall how her sister fainted in Rishikesh?? Giving juice and those cucumbers...is THIS only what her resarch told her? Has she EVER talked to Manvi abt her ILLNESS----her pain, suffering, side effects, her reduced resistance level??

Shouldn't JEEVIKA have stayed back, instead of Virat? Shouldn't SHE have asked that what should be immediately done for the treatment...what the significance of those tests are (which Virat asked)...what is the stage of her cancer...and what abt the chemo sessions etc?

Just widening her eyes in dibelief n shock, as the doc asked those questions from Manvi...which world is Jeevika living?

And the weirdest part is...her shock also disappears in the blink of an eye. As soon as she came out of the doc room...it seemes as if she completely forgot what her sister said abt her bleeding gums, Virat abt her body aches on the night of her b;day...coz Jeevika was SOOO back to normal.

When Virat came out of the doc room...i expected her to rush to him...to ask abt what the doc said...but madam was busy in blushing n smiling!!

Sorry but this is not the Jeevika we had started with. She is like mein teri aatman hoon, tu mera khoon hai, tere har aahat ko pehchaan ti hoon main, rag rag se vakif hoon then why don't you see that your sister is not as healthy as she used to be. We clearly see the difference between the Manvi two months ago and today. I thought you are her mother, my mom can tell that I am hungry just by looking at my movements. A mom knows her kids really well, and if this is how she thinks moms act, I feel bad for her kids that she will have in the future.🤢 This behaviour is why Manvi never tells her anything. Not justifiying Manvi hiding stuff from the doc, but like you said widening your eyes in disbelief and shock. What did you expect her face to start glowing like a pregnant woman, she has cancer she is gonna have symptoms hello. Manan waapis aao, Jeevika ka amnesia theek karo, I am serious, the Vadhera's mixed some carelessness and forgetfulness medication in her food. She was never like this before marriage.

5. Sighh..my FAV couple...what have you done CVs?! 😡  I was happy to see when she called Viren. It was good that she called to inform him that they had met the doc...but the doc couldn't give proper time to them as he had to head for a surgery. BUT...i was banging my head when I heard Viren go all cheesy! Was THIS the time for all that "cute" n "aww worthy" talk? She told him that they have just come out of the doc room...he asked, how is Manvi...and THAT IS IT!! Nothing like..."what did the doc say?...don't worry Jeevika, everything will be alright.." And went straight to..."u don't miss me?? Say that u miss me..." *continuous head desk* Was it the TIME n PLACE for those "i love you's". What are the CVs trying to show JV as? Some immature, college going or teenage couple...who have nothing else except for saying these ILU's n having those sweet, mushy dialogues??

They are a SENSIBLE, MATURE, YOUNG couple...and they SHOULD have their own REALISTIC issues. No one is against these sweet n cute scenes...but are these the ONLY thing left for a married couple? Can't we see how their relationship progresses n strenghtens as life throws various challenges at them...and what could be a bigger challange than Manvi's illness? In that too...what all we get to see is the couple stuck at saying..."i miss u n i love u". Sorry...the scene may be really cute...but it didn't work for me AT ALL. If this was some late night convo b/w the couple...when they're thinking abt each other...THAT would've made sense. At this point, in the hospital...it was a complete NO-NO!

Exactly, it was really unacceptable.They were the sensible, mature couple, most of the time Virman behave more mature than these two. This is not why I wanted them to get married, well partly cuz of this. But mostly cuz after a couple starts living together they are more aware of each others habits and characteristics. Their relationship grows stronger with every passing day. And why does she still blush like a newly-wed bride. These two have had misunderstandings but then they go back to square one, gushy mushy all over again🤢Give me a break. Viren babu jaao apna case dekho. Sorry if someone looks at Viren now they will definately not say that he is the sulja hua lawyer. Wait wasn't Viren's case today, cuz the witness would be lost again. That is why he stayed back.😕 They are not a college couple cvs! They have, according to you, been married for about a year now. Stop these ILU scenes and give more mature ones please. Kabhi Kabhi Virika are so mature they talk about period cycles and kabhi kabhi so kiddish that they forget Manvi has cancer.

6. And the mystery remains...WHO is bearing the expenses of Manvi's treatment? Dadaji?? Or Viren can afford it on his own?? Or...the entire Vadhera family will put in their contributions?? Kuch toh bata logo...i'm going mad thinking abt this 😆😆

Arre kitni baar to kaha hai, gold mine, family gold mine. Pakka wahin se karcha poora hota hai.

My rant over! I guess...this was what all we got in the first part. Thankfully, for you guy...i didn't watch the full epi...otherwise, this post would've become a never ending one. 😳😆😆 Sorry for torturing u guys with this super long post...which seems more like a questionnaire as i went through it now 😳😆

Most of your posts are questionnares, courtesy the cvs. Sach mein if you would have seen the whole epi phir pata nahin kya hota.

It was good to see Dadaji n Inder back (RAFL...CVs do stalk us, girls 😉😆). Dadaji knows abt Manvi's cancer. Interesting!! Why is he back now...has to be some new twist?!

Then toh phir, hume toh phir aur complaints likni chahiye Virika aur Jeevika ke baare mein, ho sakta hai amnesia theek ho jaye🤣Welcome back Dadaji aur Chachu, seriously Dadaji had the only cool dialogue as he always does.

And oh...i read the update...what happened to that dinner? Wasn't it supposed to be on the same day as the doc's appointment was? Bhool gaye kya CVs? I tell u...CVs amnesia is getting very severe...they better bring back Dr. Mannan for at least getting this one disease treated properlyt! 😉😆

That is what I was going to post on our adda, and I had written a long post already but then I accidentally exited out of the page. So I didn't want to write another long post, but sadly you made me.

Uff kitna lamba post tha

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-Aswathy-

@-Aswathy-

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Posted: 11 years ago

Looking at thw way cv's are going on with the cancer track,I think the 'missing links posts' will have to be changed to 'Missing links AT!!!'
About the hospital scene..When I saw Maanvi hesitating to say about the symptoms,all the previous 'cancer hide n seek scenes' came to my mind and I prepared my mind that she wont tell it..But surprise!!!She told it..I was like thank God,atleast she said it!!..Then the next Jeevika's worried expression reminded me of previous why-dont-u-tell-me-earlier drama of Jeevika..But again surprise!!!She didnt utter a word(Look what cv's had done to a poor ehmmbh fan 😕 )...Now I seriously thanked God that Virat enquired the doctor about the treatment..Now outside the cabin..I would have loved that Virika phone-convo + VirMan teasing Jeevika IF that scene was shown at night in the house!!Seema calling the trio from a cance institute to party..Actually its not important bcoz she is not our concern..
Finally on a positive note,I hope they show some serious treatment related scenes in next doctor's appointment!!

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