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Apr 9th: Aankhon hi Aankhon mein (Page 7)

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Posted: 09 April 2012 at 10:58pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by pigbelly4myfeet



Hmm...good point about the protectiveness. I like that insight a lot. Well, it's quite a spontaneous thing for Megha to do...I guess Mohan's spontaneity is rubbing off on her. :P We'll have to wait and see about the timing of this scene too. What they show before that scene and how much MM's equation has developed before that too. It might just feel totally natural if the flow of the scene is right. Not that it feels un-natural right now...just a little surprising. LOL But I wouldn't call it un-natural of Megha to react in this way also...I mean it kind of makes her character less typical in a sense. That she's got the spunk to do something like this. And especially if it concerns Mohan. I like how she's picking up on these Rashmi cues. 

Long term even I don't know...too sleepy and brain-dead now to think about that. I think this might just be another one of those 'secrets' that MM share. I don't think it will become a big deal, personally. It'll be interesting to see how Mohan dwells on this later on though. It's a good distraction for his thoughts too...so that he doesn't get depressed thinking about that Rashmi girl. 

I am also looking forward to the MM scene tomorrow after this Renu thing. I hope a good conversation or something happens there. And seeing Mohan open that Amar file today was somewhat relieving. I hope Mohan asks for Megha's help soon. They need to lead into that now. 

Ok now I'm going to head to bed...goo'night. Hug


@bold: WORD...that's exactly how I feel and hope this is going to go too...that it won't be made a big deal...cuz that's MOHAN...he DOESN'T make a big dealLOL...another secret would be fun...they are secret-keepers now as we discussed earlier.


Word about Megha's SPUNK as well...it's surprising yet when you think about it it's refreshing...baaki toh we will know when the scene airs.

Okies G'nite!Hug

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Posted: 09 April 2012 at 11:00pm | IP Logged
As usual I am late but my thoughts on today's episode. The things like first part of the episode are the ones that attract me to this show.  From my perspective a good subtle message was given.

In Management training on Leadership, one of things that is drummed into the head is "to establish trust you need to reinforce the beliefs". For a leader or anybody it is not only important to propagate a belief but also through visual/verbal methods convey to his friends/supporters to have faith in that belief.

The belief in this case being if you are not in the the wrong, go with head held high and face the world. On three occasions through visual indications Mohan was urging Megha to have faith.

I interpreted the expression of joy that Megha had as the fact that the belief which Mohan explained in that tea shop was vindicated. She went eyeball to eyeball with Pratik and  stared him down. As shown Pratik never expected her to be in office, but she came and came with some attitude.

The dismissal of the apology was just to get the incident over and done with and nothing more. These are subtle things but they go a long way in establishing trust. Am glad that CVs kept it realistic and did not go OTT.

Coming to Mohan and Pratik, I guess the battle lines are drawn now. It's going to be interesting, Mohan is street smart but Pratik has the position of authority. Pratik would also have realized that MM will be a bit close now after the incident and would use the Amar's wrong report as the means to drive a wedge between them. So it's all the more important that through these subtle moments Megha has enough trust built up on Mohan that when Pratik will eventually try his divisive stuff they can counter.  Let's see how this pans out

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Posted: 09 April 2012 at 11:05pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by AreYaar

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Oh true, true! The interesting bit could be Mohan's reaction, or Megha's instinctive inclusion of him in her protection circle - this is a track to watch out for! What's MOST refreshing about the track in this show - from so many others that try this ploy - is that we can be sure of NO misunderstanding between the leads on this account. There is no lowe of that kind at play here, so the oh so adolescent insecurities shouldn't kick in to render the plot cliche! Instead, a refreshing track of further established mutual comfort and trust. 

And a mopey Mohan is exactly one nuance of what I talked about in terms of his reaction. Except, you're talking of it as a direct unexpected encounter with Rashmi, and I'm talking of it as an indirect consequence of Megha's pretend story hitting him as something he doesn't have. For some reason, it feels more fair to me that his reaction should come as a consequence of Megha, than Rashmi - but I guess it would be understandable if it was about Rashmi anyway, for now. In general, mopey is not a word for Mohan though LOL Perhaps brooding?! Let's be euphemistic - mopey is just wrong for Mohan LOL




Jzee, my mind is a little slow right now...you have to tell me stuff more DIRECTLY for it penetrate through my thick brainLOL[email protected]: Ok now I get what point you were trying to make...hmmm so basically a chance for Mohan to reflect upon whether he really is happy being a carefree bachelor and if he hasn't missed out on something by not basaaoing a ghar and having a family and the works?LOL...Interesting...and I guess they will show him ULTIMATELY dwelling on that...long term I think...but initially this is going to be about Rashmi and the hurt she's caused which does run deep...I would find it sweet to see Megha being a wonderful FRIEND to him through this phase first...mutual comfort and trust as you said...that is their USP...

I'm so tempted to avi MM's eye communications today to highlight that...that is MM at their best...woh essence banaa rehna chahiye...

LOL yeah mopey toh I used generally...brooding would be better I guess...basically what I meant is that we're going to see a vulnerable and hurt Mohan in the course of this...that heartbreak that basically shattered him at some point will now come to the fore again as unpleasant memories have been revived.

Do ittt!! :D :D Approve

WORD on this being their essence. Thumbs Up

Ok final goodnight. Embarrassed :D Hug

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Posted: 09 April 2012 at 11:12pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by pigbelly4myfeet



Awww Hug 

And no ways...the maatey term is only appropriate for you. Approve I am really not half as eloquent or bang on as you are. But if you mean 'matey' in the sense of lengthy blabbering phir toh I can def. give you company in that department. :P LOL 

Yaar I'm not getting into this to and fro volley. But you can quit being modest now ! LOL Over the concern of length, LOL, let's call Fivraa to join in for the triumvirate LOL Words would feel so ignored if it wasn't for verbose people Cool


ROFL Oh this def. makes it even more hilarious! This chingum is such a backup/safety option for Mohan in these awkward times. LOL Bichara aur kare bhi toh kya...chalo chingum hi khareed leta hoon. LOL And the fact that these two always seem to stop at that specific uncle's chingum shop. LOL 

Waisse, I think I remember chingums being sold individually in India too no? Remember those individual ones that had this little joke/comic strip inside them? LOL Those are the ones Mohan buys clearly. 

Great analysis of Mohan's chingum buying habits here JZ. :D 

Acha I'm not aware of comic strips wale chingums, but if they sell those in India, I bet Mohan toh wohi khareedta hai ROFL 



Oh great point JZ. Yeah that contrast is very interesting. You can just see how these two would become a support system for one another eventually. The process has already started. That to me is what I look forward to watching in terms of love stories. When we can see two people supporting each other in this way...where you can see that relationship progression long term...and two people helping each other grow as individuals...helping each other bring out their full potentials. Really completing each other in that sense...regardless of how cliched this statement is. And it is so rare to see this kind of development/sensitivity with love stories on Indian TV. I really hope this sweetness and CARE is maintained with MM's evolution and story. 

Word to the bold. There's just something very real about balanced and equated love stories. And NBT thus far is really living up to that aspect - with all the scope to continue with it too - let's hope! I like how the strengths and weaknesses of both characters show a steady graph here. They don't either seem to suddenly sprout up extra power glands the way most TV leads do... and that's a relief. They're shown banking entirely on traits that were always hinted at, or seem very credible as part of their person. 


Oh yeah! Intuitive understanding is SO the phrase!! Really...yeh dono ki intuition hi toh hai na? I mean it's our gut feelings only that make us reach forward..trust someone. And that concept of faith again...it's on an intuitive level only na? So I think until two people can have that intuitive kind of understanding between one another, they really can't have that kind of FAITH, that kind of confidence or trust in each other. Hope that makes sense and it is not just a random/half-baked si thought in my head. 

And really great point about Megha and Mohan's fundamentals as characters. MM's story only started on that note na? The first impressions. Mohan himself had that impression about Megha after hearing Nanhi's monologue from that "Udaas TV" bit. LOL He himself had this impression that Megha was this dukhiyari widwa and all needing sympathy. It was only after his interactions that he got to admire her strength. And really that admiration has become so subconscious and acceptable to him now. That he has no hesitation regarding Megha's capabilities and his confidence in her. And similarily with Megha too...she had the exact misconception regarding Mohan as well...just like everyone else. LOLAnd now, like you said, they HAVE reached a mini milestone indeed. And I love that connection you made with this three month anniversary thing too. LOL In a way their story is about overcoming these prejudices...these first impressions and misconceptions and getting to know each other. It's because both Megha and Mohan's background is so interesting too. That it evokes these kinds of misconceptions in society. Megha being the widow and Mohan living this carefree, adventurous reporter life. Megha being so family ingrained and Mohan being a bachelor who has consciously had a disagreement with his family (mainly his dad apparently). These backgrounds themselves provide such a great premise for their story to progress upon. And both Megha and Mohan have this similar trait...of defying societal norms in a way. But they have different ways of doing this. 

So anyways...going off on random tangents here...but really SO much scope for this story to progress upon. I really hope it's handled well and all the connecting relationships too are given the required footage and care. 

So interestingly even the fact that Mohan took less time overcoming first impression of Megha, than Megha did for him, is also more justified than trite - because given Mohan's worldly wisdom, and general unbiased approach in life, he ought to have seen through sooner. Besides, he did trust "evidence" over his gut faith in her word once, and realized. 

Megha's lack of stepping into the world prior to now, so much of her own, is reflected in how she started off with some very obvious opinions about Mohan, consolidated by all those Murphy inspired situations Mohan always happens to be in the middle of, such that it's actually taken an eye opening revelation for her to see the Mohan Bhatnagar for the guy he really is! And yet, despite all her whimsical opinions of his prior to this, the fact that Megha had been able to place intuitive trust in Mohan is evidence of how it takes one to recognize one - between such simply core inside out genuine people! And the point of conversation at the dhaba where Megha told Mohan how she should have trusted him was like a circle being completed, because Mohan had chided himself for the same in the Rangreza episode. They both formed first obvious impressions - and took their respective time and events to overcome the same - but beneath it was always some level of instinctive knowing that they were made of similar fundamentals. 



ROFL JZ kya yaad dila diya! I love that Shishupal scene from Mahabharat. LOL Yep yep, I see your point about how this fits with our Mohan too. lol Ok your insight with connecting Mohan with Krishna is now really making me wonder whether this name chosen for this character was intentional. And really if they do love associating Mohan with some God...then why haven't they chosen Krishna yet? LOL Seconding Anu here...lol...perhaps this is the next God in line. :P LOL

Yaar I know! In fact Mohan is so not Shiva and Rama - in specifics of traits - he is so much Krishna! But like I said to Nur, Janamashtami is a while to go na abhi LOL
P.S. JZ...I love the text in your sig box. Day Dreaming

Oh I see. Oh haan, I do remember hearing of that book/movie of course but I've never read/watched it so I wouldn't know. But that text is totally appropriate for that MM scene. And even that Gulaal-Kesar scene...though I haven't seen it...I can understand the context of it. 

Acha - strongly recommended in that case. The movie for sure, and if you're the reading kind then start with the book as a MUST. 
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Posted: 09 April 2012 at 11:16pm | IP Logged
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As usual I am late but my thoughts on today's episode. The things like first part of the episode are the ones that attract me to this show.  From my perspective a good subtle message was given.

In Management training on Leadership, one of things that is drummed into the head is "to establish trust you need to reinforce the beliefs". For a leader or anybody it is not only important to propagate a belief but also through visual/verbal methods convey to his friends/supporters to have faith in that belief.

The belief in this case being if you are not in the the wrong, go with head held high and face the world. On three occasions through visual indications Mohan was urging Megha to have faith.

I interpreted the expression of joy that Megha had as the fact that the belief which Mohan explained in that tea shop was vindicated. She went eyeball to eyeball with Pratik and  stared him down. As shown Pratik never expected her to be in office, but she came and came with some attitude.

The dismissal of the apology was just to get the incident over and done with and nothing more. These are subtle things but they go a long way in establishing trust. Am glad that CVs kept it realistic and did not go OTT.

Coming to Mohan and Pratik, I guess the battle lines are drawn now. It's going to be interesting, Mohan is street smart but Pratik has the position of authority. Pratik would also have realized that MM will be a bit close now after the incident and would use the Amar's wrong report as the means to drive a wedge between them. So it's all the more important that through these subtle moments Megha has enough trust built up on Mohan that when Pratik will eventually try his divisive stuff they can counter.  Let's see how this pans out



Lovely points!Clap...Especially liked what you pointed out about Management training in leadership and the reinforcing of that belief in yourself.

The first 2-3 minutes with MM were basically a great example of what makes this show lovely...beautifully executed scene.

And yes the battle lines are definitely drawn now b/w Mohan and Prateek...it's Mohan's street smarts v/s Prateek's position of power...Megha trusts Mohan now so I don't think any of Prateek's tactics will work easily unless he finds something to use as leverage over either Mohan or Megha...time will tell.

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Posted: 09 April 2012 at 11:19pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by pigbelly4myfeet

Originally posted by AreYaar




Jzee, my mind is a little slow right now...you have to tell me stuff more DIRECTLY for it penetrate through my thick brainLOL[email protected]: Ok now I get what point you were trying to make...hmmm so basically a chance for Mohan to reflect upon whether he really is happy being a carefree bachelor and if he hasn't missed out on something by not basaaoing a ghar and having a family and the works?LOL...Interesting...and I guess they will show him ULTIMATELY dwelling on that...long term I think...but initially this is going to be about Rashmi and the hurt she's caused which does run deep...I would find it sweet to see Megha being a wonderful FRIEND to him through this phase first...mutual comfort and trust as you said...that is their USP...

I'm so tempted to avi MM's eye communications today to highlight that...that is MM at their best...woh essence banaa rehna chahiye...

LOL yeah mopey toh I used generally...brooding would be better I guess...basically what I meant is that we're going to see a vulnerable and hurt Mohan in the course of this...that heartbreak that basically shattered him at some point will now come to the fore again as unpleasant memories have been revived.

Do ittt!! :D :D Approve

WORD on this being their essence. Thumbs Up

Ok final goodnight. Embarrassed :D Hug


DoneeeLOL



Aakanksha can be so FANTASTIC with subtle expressions...brilliant emoting in this scene with the perfect subtlety...nothing OTT...ClapClap...and Kunal toh hai hi superb at this...when two actors can play so well off of each other without even any dialogue b/w them, they deserve solid praise...an entire conversation without any words.

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Posted: 09 April 2012 at 11:21pm | IP Logged
Nurrr!!! Hug Hug Hug

Thank god that I was checking this thread before going off...Love ya for this!! Hug

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Posted: 09 April 2012 at 11:32pm | IP Logged
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Jzee, my mind is a little slow right now...you have to tell me stuff more DIRECTLY for it penetrate through my thick brainLOL[email protected]: Ok now I get what point you were trying to make...hmmm so basically a chance for Mohan to reflect upon whether he really is happy being a carefree bachelor and if he hasn't missed out on something by not basaaoing a ghar and having a family and the works?LOL...Interesting...and I guess they will show him ULTIMATELY dwelling on that...long term I think...but initially this is going to be about Rashmi and the hurt she's caused which does run deep...I would find it sweet to see Megha being a wonderful FRIEND to him through this phase first...mutual comfort and trust as you said...that is their USP...

I'm so tempted to avi MM's eye communications today to highlight that...that is MM at their best...woh essence banaa rehna chahiye...

LOL yeah mopey toh I used generally...brooding would be better I guess...basically what I meant is that we're going to see a vulnerable and hurt Mohan in the course of this...that heartbreak that basically shattered him at some point will now come to the fore again as unpleasant memories have been revived.


@bold - well not all that long term/cliche - but more like introspect and perhaps revisit this extreme cynicism he holds onto, not letting anyone invade his inner circumference? Like find himself speculating about how and why he is so averse to the idea of actually having someone in his life? So that the encounter with Rashmi becomes a closure and a beginning the same go. Closure on Rashmi front realizing that she never was the one, like a reaffirmed fact where whatever has lingered on him so far finally and completely evaporates. And a beginning where he starts to think of the "make believe" kind of life that Megha acted out and silenced Rashmi with. Realizing how parting ways with Rashmi was right, but shutting himself was not. How the trade off in becoming an extreme cynic has involved letting go of any balancing semblance of idealism. And you know, sort of just reinvent the inception of actually having someone to share his life with. Marriage, rituals, wo sab chodo - but the loneliness he has held onto, someone to dispel it. And of course, consequently realizing how Megha is that someone... 

^^ i realize that sounded romanticized at some level of description, but I'm intending for the introspection to go along more practical lines. Of this innate need as a human to not be a loner. And to not confine himself to this sworn independence to a point where it goes beyond defining him, and starts to suffocate him instead! 

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