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Posted: 06 April 2012 at 10:35am | IP Logged

Yesterday I read a very sensible and much needed post on whether CVs are sending the wrong message through Khushi!!!

Many more followed on what Khushi should do???? how wrong or how right she is and how helpless she is!!!!

Khushi being silent or not teling anyone about Shyam is definitely very bad...but what about the other aspects that send wrong signals to everybody

That got me wondering!!!

The contract marriage: or marriage which hold no value for the man..I fear girls may think contract marriage are in thing nowadays and guys may ...!!!!

Physical abuse of employee by employer: I fear throwing someone from balcony or sending her on death mission will now turn girls on as they will think its romantic to rescued...and will forget that no employer is supposed to do that.

Brother-Sister relationship:  I fear boys will think to protect their sister any girl in hand can be tortured!!!!

Should sister love her brother so much that her fainting may scare him...what does she  have any pregnancy or blood cancer!!! Hiding your simple illness from your loving family in the name of concern is it right!!!

I fear now the elder sister will think interfering in their younger brother life is cool thing!!!

(I have expreinced it and trust me its not cool..its arrrghhh)

I fear that the so called people like Shyam who are married in to rich homes as Ghar Jamai and have good looking, devoted girls as wives they will now wait for second chance for love in their life and will think they can get away with it,

I fear young boys may think torturing or taunting paralytic people like Shashi Gupta is ok if they obsessively in love!!

I fear the young men will think its cool to abuse your wife as its a way of showing your love and young girls may take it like Khushi does!!!! I fear young men may think shouting "i hate you" to wife is the very cool and the wife though hurt may take it!!!!!

The need to be accepted by all (esp her family) that Khushi seems to have. Her constant efforts to be be approved and loved by all including the audience. I sometimes wonder the extent she will go to satisfy her family, for her sister marriage, to make her sister smile.

Her keeping quite about Shyam is freaking me out! Does she realize the danger that the two men in her life are putting her in.she at least was capable of avoiding him in Lakshmi Nagar'but now her husband dearie has put her straight in Lions's jaws...and he is incapable of picking on Shyam.so what should she do now!!!!

If Shyam forces himself on her not only she as far as i am concerned Arnav is also to blame for presenting in RM...as far as i have noticed Shyam boldness increased only after Arnav came to know

Tell Anjali, Payal, Garima, Whom should she tell? her husband had already judged her how many others should she let judge'.How should she stop Shyam!!!!

Will young girls end up trying to be a Martyr like her...its scary!!!! I definitely don't want my sister to do any secret sacrifices for me!!!!

Anjali is she sending the right message to people????

She freaks our when her Mangl sutra breaks and is always in PDA mode with her husband...he is god for her...is being like her right!!!!

Are Aakash and Payal who we make fun sending right meassage to young men and women!!!

Are the audience misled about the importance of pool and garden when compared to bathrooms and other essentials!!!!

Most important of all is is ok go to give second chance to wavering husband without letting the wives now...isn't it her choice whether he should be given second chance!!! 

(here its assuming Shyam is just wavering man and will reform as our dumb duo Arnav and Khushi are thinking!!)

We talk a lot about what should Khushi ideally do!!!!

My doubt is what should Arnav ideally do????? What should Anjali ideally do???? What should for god sake Cvs do!!!

How is IPKKND sending message to anybody for that matter!!!!! 

Earlier it was magical and beautiful love story to be enjoyed and appreciated and now...

It just seems to have lot dysfunctional families and obsessed people!!

Should they have disclaimer like the bike adverts do????

Guys your thoughts please...


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Posted: 06 April 2012 at 10:39am | IP Logged

Phew !!!

I took a deep breath and let it out.  Sree!! I hope you have vented it all out.  I agree with you that this show like many other shows is sending so many wrong messages at all levels.
My problem is that, this or anyother show, need not be a social service show.  But what I do not like is, the glorfication of wrong messages under love.
For example a Saas tortures a Bahu.  No one says she is doing it out of love.  No one says, Saas is doing it because she does not want to lose the bahu.
For example a villain tortures a role (male or female).  No one says he is doing it out of love or the fear of losing the person he is torturing.
But when it comes to an anti-hero, who happens to be the lead, looks like all the rules change.  Here, it will be show, the female lead has a strong back bone, inlike the saas-bahu saagas, but for the serial to go on, she will be made a scape goat not by the villain, not by the anti-hero, but by herself.  She will be given irresponsible lines and situations to provide circumstantial evidence of her guilt even when innocent, and the anit-hero will be shown being kind now and then.
If a serial entertains, inspite of not being one for social causes, it is fine.  But what is not fine is a love story where the love is shown at the speed of light but nafrat is shown at the speed of a snail in slow motion. But even that would have been ok, if handled with subtlety.
Kushi not telling anyone is beyond understandable.  But it goes with what I explained above from a CVs perspective.  They cannot have a typical SP Vahu, who will keep crying and performing pooja all the time asking god to help her.  If they did that, then their anti-hero will not be loved.  So she is given a back bone which she uses all the time, except, the most important times, where both her backbone and brain go for a walk.
So in essence, IPKKND need not send positive messages.  It need not any message as long as they stick to their story arc with consistency, subtelity, and continuation, like they did the first 6-7 months.  The finesse of a script and direction can make any epsiode entertaining including villains lusting or an anti-heores arrogance or hatred.  When they lose those sensibilites when abuse looks plain revolting and we all need to vent like we are doing.
Rgds
Sudha


Edited by stafhtad - 06 April 2012 at 10:57am

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Posted: 06 April 2012 at 11:11am | IP Logged
Very sensible post dear Sree..
I highly object an elder sister interfering in younger brother's married life like Anjali does.. its extremely obnoxious, I have seen this in reality too, many a case it even led to divorce..
About Arnav's abuse its a sheer domestic violence and nothing else..
About Khushi's keeping quite about disgusting encounters with Shyam, I really dont understand why is this little girl taking such a burden to keep all useless asses happy on her very fragile shoulders, especially someone like AnJhali.. IMO she should share her fear about that creep with Payal or Buaji now.. the mistakes which Gupta family's elders did hiding a truth should be rectified now by Buaji or Garima..
Another thing is I detest idle, delusional and super-clingy characters like AnJhali who cant even bridle her lech husband..



Edited by Doc_Manaal - 06 April 2012 at 11:11am

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Posted: 06 April 2012 at 11:12am | IP Logged
Originally posted by stafhtad

Phew !!!

I took a deep breath and let it out.  Sree!! I hope you have vented it all out.  I agree with you that this show like many other shows is sending so many wrong messages at all levels.
My problem is that, this or anyother show, need not be a social service show.  But what I do not like is, the glorfication of wrong messages under love.
For example a Saas tortures a Bahu.  No one says she is doing it out of love.  No one says, Saas is doing it because she does not want to lose the bahu.
For example a villain tortures a role (male or female).  No one says he is doing it out of love or the fear of losing the person he is torturing.
But when it comes to an anti-hero, who happens to be the lead, looks like all the rules change.  Here, it will be show, the female lead has a strong back bone, inlike the saas-bahu saagas, but for the serial to go on, she will be made a scape goat not by the villain, not by the anti-hero, but by herself.  She will be given irresponsible lines and situations to provide circumstantial evidence of her guilt even when innocent, and the anit-hero will be shown being kind now and then.
If a serial entertains, inspite of not being one for social causes, it is fine.  But what is not fine is a love story where the love is shown at the speed of light but nafrat is shown at the speed of a snail in slow motion. But even that would have been ok, if handled with subtlety.
Kushi not telling anyone is beyond understandable.  But it goes with what I explained above from a CVs perspective.  They cannot have a typical SP Vahu, who will keep crying and performing pooja all the time asking god to help her.  If they did that, then their anti-hero will not be loved.  So she is given a back bone which she uses all the time, except, the most important times, where both her backbone and brain go for a walk.
So in essence, IPKKND need not send positive messages.  It need not any message as long as they stick to their story arc with consistency, subtelity, and continuation, like they did the first 6-7 months.  The finesse of a script and direction can make any epsiode entertaining including villains lusting or an anti-heores arrogance or hatred.  When they lose those sensibilites when abuse looks plain revolting and we all need to vent like we are doing.
Rgds
Sudha

lol yes Subha feel more at peace with me now!!!

and yes i totally agree with the whole this you have put esp bold...

IPKKND was an intense love story and as long as it retains its essence and the characters its enough its not social reformatory documentary so positive messages needed and definitively views needn't follow anything shown there !!!
But yes consistent characterization and fluid story line are must...sadly it seems to losing all that!!

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Posted: 06 April 2012 at 11:13am | IP Logged

Sree ClapClapClapYou have brilliantly verbalized and vocalized every single scary message this serial is now sending out to young minds.  Just a simple example of what is going on and one does not have to go too far to see the ramifications of this serials messages.

 

Nowadays I find myself feeling increasingly uneasy whenever I venture into IF and dread when I come across posts written by children as young as 12/13 and already passing judgments on how KKG should behave and how brainless she is and how intelligent and hot ASR is. They view all the adult material/posts and comments out here and have formed their own opinion on a man woman relationship. They take their cues from some of the older members here who expend a lot of energy justifying his stupidity and arrogance as part of his passion. For some inexplicable reason some seniors seem to derive a vicarious sense of pleasure from this fantasy character and lose sense of reality and perspective of what is healthy and what borders on abuse and end up defending his character and actions to death which the young ones happily devour as the solemn truth about relationships for after all if an adult says it is ok it must be ok. So yes seeing some of the children's/ maturing adult's post I know that the next generation for abusive relationship statistics is already ripe right here in IF.

 

Posts have come up extolling the virtues of how singularly lucky she must be to be loved by a man like ASR who although he mistreats her real bad but whose heart beats only for her so what a fortunate lass she must be and how it will be all worth it in the end. Silly folks don't they know that many a time it could be the end of the person itself? My heart breaks when I read how they do not want to see the harsh reality behind such stories and get into spiteful rebuttals defending him. They don't show KKG any better- the perennial sacrificial lamb scapegoat, in fact all the women characters in this show have been shown to be either incredibly shallow or unbelievably pliant or just plain dumb- for a while KKG seemed different till December happened and now she is no different.  

So yes another message has gone -get smacked blackmailed humiliated abased debased denigrated debauched even because it will be all worth it for that silly sadistic piece of love he throws whenever wherever whichever way he wishes. Children here are already being taught how wonderful it is to love the bad boy and that is who they are going to go looking for as they enter their significant hormonal years increasingly growing up with a lack of self esteem self worth and self respect as their fantasy boy turns into a nightmare Freddy and using all their energy in trying to keep this man happy and losing themselves so badly in the process. I really wish I could give a stinging tongue lash to the CV's and SP over this serial message.

What is the possibility of meeting and mating a real ASR in real life? Well in a country of over 1.3 billion I would hazard a guess say .013. The last time I heard of a fairy tale love story was in the business section of a magazine when the son of a prominent IT Honcho wed the daughter of an Industrialist Czar after they both met and fell in love at an Ivy League University. We know that these are fictitious characters from a fantasy of a soap opera conjured by the figment of some CV's imagination to garner ad revenues in a TV channel war for ratings  but do they?

 

I really thoroughly enjoy all your wonderful posts so much and it gives me a sense of peace when I see some one reflect exactly what I feel inside and know we are all in this together. Smile

 



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Posted: 06 April 2012 at 11:39am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Doc_Manaal

Very sensible post dear Sree..
I highly object an elder sister interfering in younger brother's married life like Anjali does.. its extremely obnoxious, I have seen this in reality too, many a case it even led to divorce..
About Arnav's abuse its a sheer domestic violence and nothing else..
About Khushi's keeping quite about disgusting encounters with Shyam, I really dont understand why is this little girl taking such a burden to keep all useless asses happy on her very fragile shoulders, especially someone like AnJhali.. IMO she should share her fear about that creep with Payal or Buaji now.. the mistakes which Gupta family's elders did hiding a truth should be rectified now by Buaji or Garima..
Another thing is I detest idle, delusional and super-clingy characters like AnJhali who cant even bridle her lech husband..

Yes, you are absoultely right.  Previously in some other post when I said the same, I was lectured to first learn a thing or two about joint families and learn to respect elders and that elders always have rights over younger ones.  This was with respect to Anjali and Nani.
I did not argue, because, I was new and did not want to make enemies.  I am glad I grew up, where things were taught clearly of what was right and what was wrong.  Just becuase an elder does something doesn't automatically make it right.  Every person, elder or younger needs to act within certain boundaries, expected to have compassion and realize that, love is not about suffocation but is about release.
What Anjali does to her brother is suffocating.  I truly do not believe she loves ASR.  If she did, this character would have shown some sense of individual space by now.

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Posted: 06 April 2012 at 11:52am | IP Logged

In this show, all the characters display extreme behavior - either exteme love between siblings, extreme stupidity, extreme hatred, extreme sacrfice, extreme respect, extreme goodness, extreme simplicity, extreme evil !!!

There should be some balance in the characters potrayed. Other than Shashi, who has be reduced to nothing, all the other characters display extreme behavior.
 
 
 
 

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Posted: 06 April 2012 at 12:11pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by sukri

In this show, all the characters display extreme behavior - either exteme love between siblings, extreme stupidity, extreme hatred, extreme sacrfice, extreme respect, extreme goodness, extreme simplicity, extreme evil !!!

There should be some balance in the characters potrayed. Other than Shashi, who has be reduced to nothing, all the other characters display extreme behavior.
 
 
 
 
How dare you say that Subha!!
Laxmy just bleated on bleatter that she will sue for calling here an extremanist !!
Bleat Bleat Bleat
Rgds
Bleat-y

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