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iw ill be happy if she is pushed out
Originally posted by: subhas123Dhuryodhan and Yudhister went around the city (or whatever it is called) in disguise and observed the people around. Later Dhuryodhan said "everyone in this place is bad" and yudhister said "all the people here are good". Just perspective difference.
Originally posted by: tinoo
The second instance is this most recent manipulation of having her give the justice decision ...when any other member of the panchayat would have sufficed to do this justice. It is more like he had some kind of proxy war going on (undercurrent, not explicit) with Bhairon so he used anandi as his proxy by telling her to take her position as sarpanch. He was the one who felt it was unfair ... and the matter could easily have been resolved by bhairon paying the one month's salary quietly. But nooo... Bhairon gave a speech on justice and truth and all that.
At its telecast, i agreed to Sumitra's caution partially. If a judicious tact was need of a day, this was the day. But not her remedy. Neither there was any need to resign as Sarpanch, (a discrete recuse cum delegation would not impede her 'advance' on the 'path' any whichway), nor would 'a silent' payment do any good. In fact, this later tactic had all signs of doing more harm...Rameshwar couple were all out for reprisal. If one branch of 'Badi Haweli were to attempt a silent payout, they were sure to flaunt it in entire village as their 'moral' victory in the brawl. Imagine the wrath of the B and G in such clandestine intrusion in their affairs! Even worse than the actual case where at least, Anandi had pulled up the errant mother publically.
As for the import that Bhairav manipulates Anandi, I disagree. If anything, theirs is a relationship of a 'guardian-ward' or 'mentor- protege' where Bhairav supports and encourages Anandi's growth.
For the second case mentioned in the post;
In first place, if any one manouvered other, it was Anandi, who had persuaded Bhairav with a somewhat coercive logic of Jagya's possible wash of Haweli's 'dirty linen' in public. Remember, he was furious and fuming, both ideologically as well over a direct personal affront to his parental respect by Jagya...
welcum back ankit!! how was ur travel??from past sum days i m rarely making any post in BV froum as i m fed up of bashing of gud & +ve ckts & i don't want 2 bang my head on the wall!!😆😆😆its really pathetic & disgusting that the gud ppl which is visible even 2 a blind prsn r being not just criticised 4their fair decisions but also labelled as schemers & "pretending 2 b great"!!😊😊😊Originally posted by: ankit111Seems bhairav is big schemer. very bad CVS u fail badly to portray a villain character, which cd be more dreadful thn Kacha of Agnipath 😆
Originally posted by: hooked
As regards what happened n why - I hope Bhairon had had the foresight to see how Basant will react to a public loss of face by a village sarpanch going against him and wish he has listened to Sumitra. Bhairon showed poor judgement.Basant wud never have liked the decision going against him THAT TOO IN PUBLIC, and wud have resented whoever did do that unless it was DS herself. And Bhairon shud have been wise enuf to see that and not insisted on quoting Geeta to Anandi.
Originally posted by: hookedDon't think Bhairon is manipulative - that seems like an extreme charge Tinoo !!
But yes - he does indulge Anandi quite a bit - at time almost like a pampered child ! He was quite right and human in wanting her to study and become a doctor too - to show J how wrong he was, and though A doesn't find that to be her calling - he has never the less, still been consistently supportive of her, as has the Tausa family.As regards what happened n why - I hope Bhairon had had the foresight to see how Basant will react to a public loss of face by a village sarpanch going against him and wish he has listened to Sumitra. Bhairon showed poor judgement.Basant wud never have liked the decision going against him THAT TOO IN PUBLIC, and wud have resented whoever did do that unless it was DS herself. And Bhairon shud have been wise enuf to see that and not insisted on quoting Geeta to Anandi.
Originally posted by: sreevask
What is the rationale behind this scheming on BHAIRON ?
When we r to face a judgement IN THE PUBLIC we shd b prepared for pro/anti result...How come basant presume & take it granted that he must get a favored result whatever b his fault ?
If Rameswar did not get justice @ panchayat he won't keep silent but get basant jailed/penalized for his crime along with getting back his salary..
BHAIRON told several times to convince basant to pay salary to Rameswar ,he was just adamant like anti BHAIRON campaigners...
Can't basant take it as a warning bell as to the judgement @ panchayat?
How many times you must be told that panchayat consists of 5 heads &Anandi just voices the collective decision? Why do you forget all these so conveniently & repeat your grammephone record against BHAIRON? Even SHREE krishna also gave a chance to brethren kauravs by alerting what is DHARMA... They had also took it just like basant & u.
Later after defeat @ the judgement can u throw blame on the judgement/judge?it is a sheer headstrong /imbecile nature...
Why shd BHAIRON warn if he is really a schemer?basant could not face truth & ESCAPED just like those who demanded recuse of Anandi.
When will you get sense?
When everything failed to convince the all time moorakh basant he advised Anandi to stick to the statutory obligations.,even though BHAIRON did not advise it is her prime duty for which she had been elected,& why shd she ESCAPE for a criminal?
Haveli & u may pamper basant ,& Jagat ,but how come u expect the PUBLIC pamper 'em?
One last thing ...Please don't change urself ... You r all poised to learn lessons practically as it is the only way suitable for ur mindset.
Originally posted by: tinoo
Hooked thanks! This is exactly my point. You see, I would not let Bhairon off the hook showing that he showed poor judgement. Because then it would be saying that he did not know what the consequences of anandi's decision would be. I am saying that he fully knew AND CHOSE TO IGNORE THE POTENTIAL CONSEQUENCES. This is why I say he manipulated anandi.It is hard to say that he had no idea what this meant... because even sumitra who has not really spent her life with any broader perspective than that of the haveli knew what the consequences would be. Quite frankly, it doesnt take a rocket scientist.Now everywhere, anandi is seen as the cause for basant leaving but I feel bhairon manipulated anandi and put her in a position where it would be seen as "ghar ki beendhni did all this".Any sensible panchayat would have told basant to pay the man's one month salary, so there was no need for anandi herself to deliver this decision. She could have recused herself.Now what is further disheartening is that anandi has herself co-opted the thought process that she is responsible for this mess, but really it is bhairon who is responsible for this mess.
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