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swordfishh

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Posted: 21 January 2012 at 12:42pm | IP Logged
They show people worshipping Shiva/Mahadev in the form of a Shivling which is chronologically incorrect because the Shivling symbolises the congujal union of Shiv and Parvati (or according to some sources Shiv Sati) ... Parvati does not exist yet because the story is still at the Shiv Sati stage... and Shiv and Sati are not yet married or even united...  so a Shivling cannot exist right now... 


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Posted: 21 January 2012 at 4:51pm | IP Logged
It was my exact point while I saw one of the episode!! I did some research too...yeap

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Posted: 21 January 2012 at 10:41pm | IP Logged
I do not think you have the meaning right- the linga means symbol - and it is said that Shiva appeared before Vishnu and Brhama as a scared light- and in the form of a symbol   or linga of light ( jyotirlinga). hence, it was before Shiva sati, Siva Parvati, and therefore it was not a blooper.  if in doubt do a search on hindu websites and you will find a detailed explanation

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Posted: 22 January 2012 at 1:53am | IP Logged
totally agree with the TM!!!

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Posted: 22 January 2012 at 2:15am | IP Logged
as far asi know the Shiv Linga is supposed to be interpreted as a form of the union between Shiva and Shakti(Sati is supposed to be a rebirth of shakti),and is supposed to exist from the formation of the universe
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Posted: 22 January 2012 at 2:22am | IP Logged
Originally posted by shruti.nil

as far asi know the Shiv Linga is supposed to be interpreted as a form of the union between Shiva and Shakti(Sati is supposed to be a rebirth of shakti),and is supposed to exist from the formation of the universe
check this link for youre answers
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Yes Shakti, Durga, Kali are incarnations of Parvati who was the reborn form of Sati... Hence, unless there is a Shiva Sati union, there can be no linga.. 

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Posted: 22 January 2012 at 2:45am | IP Logged
This is actually jyotirling, since everyone can not have a jyotirling, they were worshipping the symbolic replica of Jyotirling
 
(PROPOSITION & MEANS) OR ATTAINABLE

Sutji continued with his narration:-
"During the initial period of 'Svet Varah Kalp'. Six prominent sages collected near Triveni and started debating as to who was the greatest deity, among Brahma Vishnu and Mahesh. Their debate remained inconclusive, so they went to lord Brahma to seek the answer.

Lord Brahma told them:-

"O revered Sages! The source of Vishnu, Rudra all the deities including myself and all the other creations is none other Mahadeo. Union with the Shiva should be the objective of a man to attain that objective. Listening to the qualities of Lord Shiva, singing devotional songs in his praise and contemplating on him are the greatest means, which help to unite with Shiva."

(LISTENING-KIRTAN-CONTEMPLATION)


SHRAVAN KIRTAN MANAN

Purification of the mind by the help of doing worship and chanting the name of God is called contemplation. Singing devotional songs in the form of stotra, or hymns of the vedas or even in one's own language is called Kirtan.

The above mentioned three activities are the supreme means to attain liberation

(GREATNESS OF SHIVALINGA)

According to Sutji, if a person is incapable of following the above mentioned three activities i.e. Shravan, Kirtan and Manan then he should worship the Shivalinga. Even by doing this he can attain liberation from all the bondages of the world.

Describing about the majesty of Shivalinga, Sutji says: "Lord Shiva is the manifestation of Almighty God (Brahma) himself and for this very reason he is known as NISHKAL. Because of his divine beauty, Shiva is called SAGUNA (God with form). The term SAGUNA is also expressed in another way, that is SAKAL. Shivalinga is worshipped since it symbolizes the form of Shiva. Lord Shiva is also considered to be NIRGUNA (without any qualities.)"

"In the first Kalpa of Swetvarah, a battle was fought between Lord Brahma and Lord Vishnu to prove their superiority. Lord Shiva manifested before arrogance. After that he also showed them his form in the shape of Shivalinga. From that day onwards the Shivalinga became famous."

(THE DEITIES GO TO KAILASH MOUNTAIN)

Nandikeshwarji narrates the tale of battle between Lord Brahma and Lord Vishnu.

"Once while travelling lord Brahma reached the abode of Lord Vishnu. He saw Lord Vishnu. He saw lord Vishnu resting on Shesh-Nag and being attended by Garuda and other attendants. When Brahmaji saw that Vishnu did not get up to receive him, he became very angry. Very soon, Verbal dual erupted between them. It became so severe that a battle was fought between them, which continued for very long time. All the deities arrived from the heaven to watch the battle. They became very worried when they saw no sign of battle coming to an end. They decided to go to lord Shiva, to seek his help.

(ANALSTAMBH - THE PILLAR OF FIRE)

"Though Lord Shiva knew everything, but still feigning ignorance, he asked about the well beings of the world. The deities told him about the battle, fought between Brahmaji and Vishnuji."

"Lord Shiva then sent his one hundred Ganas to pacify both of them. He too went there accompanied by mother Parvati, boarded on a chariot. When Lord Shiva reached there, he saw that Brahmaji and Vishnuji were about to use their deadly weapons- Maheshwar and Pashupat respectively. Fearing the destruction, which these deadly weapons might have caused, Lord Shiva manifested himself in the form of 'Analstamba' (pillar of fire) between them. Brahmaji and Vishnuji had already released their weapons- Maheshwar and Pashupat. Both the weapons fell into that pillar of fire and got destroyed.

"Brahmaji and Vishnuji were very surprised to see the pillar of fire, which was so enormous in size that it reached the sky and penetrated down the earth. Vishnuji transformed himself into a boar and went to the 'Patal' (nether world) to find the base of that 'Pillar of fire'. But he was unsuccessful in his attempt and came back.

Similarly Brahmaji transformed himself into a swan and flew up in the sky to find its limit. While going through the aerial route he met a withered 'Ketaki' flowers, which had still some freshness and fragrance left in it."

"Lord Shiva smiled at the futile attempts of Shri Brahmaji and Vishnuji. As a result of his smile the Ketaki flower fell down from the branch. Ketaki flower told Brahmaji that he had been present there since the beginning of the creation, but was unable to know about the origin of that 'Pillar of fine'. The flower also advised Brahmaji against making any effort in that direction, as it would be of no use."

"Brahmaji then sought the help of Ketaki flower to give a false witness before lord Vishnu, that he (Brahmaji) had been successful in seeing the limit of that pillar of fire. Ketaki flower agreed. Both of them went to Vishnuji and Brahmaji told him that he had seen the limit of that Pillar of fire. Ketaki flower gave a witness. Vishnuji accepted the superiority of Brahmaji."

"Lord Shiva became very angry with Brahmaji. He proceeded to punish Brahmaji for his falsehood. Lord Vishnu requested Lord Shiva to spare the life of Brahmaji. Lord Shiva became pleased with Vishnuji and accorded him the same status as Hat of his own."

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Edited by mnx12 - 22 January 2012 at 2:51am

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Posted: 22 January 2012 at 2:46am | IP Logged
in a way you are right...
some scriptures say its the union of Shiva Sati or Shiva Parvati
but there are some scripts i have read where it is supposed to symbolise Shiv and Shakti,but there are essentially the same
as per the Skanda Purana its supposed to be the union of Parvati and Shiva
however according to the Shiva Purana(i supposed the refrences made are from this book)-the Shakti is supposed to be the female counterpart of Shiva,hence they are supposed to be united at the time of creation of the universe,as Ardhanarishwar(which has been mentioned in the show),but on Brahmas behest Shiva parts with Shakti for the formation of the world.This Shakti is reborn as Sati and then Parvati.
so the show isnt entirely wrong i suppose,if they are refering to this version of Ardhanarishwar,then the Shivling does exist in the story at this point of time...Smile
if it is the "pillar of Fire",then the Shiv Ling has already been created,the reason being that Bramha has already lost one of his heads due to Shivas rage,and the Pillar of Fire is supposed to formed at that time!-as per the show
i guess well go crazy trying to figure this out,there are so many versions of the story!


Edited by shruti.nil - 22 January 2012 at 2:52am

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