Mythological Masti


Mythological Masti
Mythological Masti

mythological versus historical events and stories

vedantka Groupbie

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Posted: 16 January 2012 at 3:16pm | IP Logged

Radhey Radhey!

Hi everybody,

My name is Gosia and I'm a Polish woman living in Canada.

I have the deepest respect for genuine Vedic culture and your Divine scriptures.

I've read the book by H.D.Swami Prakashanand Saraswati: "The true history and the religion of India", it is a truly fascinating book so I want to quote from it in regard to you using the terms like mythology or mythological for serials based on Ramayan, Mahabharat , Shreemad Bhagavatam or puranas. I took the quote from

You should be aware that this term(mythology) was introduced towards your religious sacred books by Britishers in order to demean and destroy your Vedic heritage so they would have easier to rule over India. Now you've got your independence but it looks like most of the people are not even aware of the damage done by British schemes.

Even if producers of these serials take some liberty in portraying or interpreting the themes from Mahabharat,etc, even if they may include some Bharat folk tales or use a bit of their own imagination, as long as the main subject stays intact, no one should ever use the word mythology here as mythology simply means fairy tales, fantasies of human mind,etc.

There is a divine ocean of difference between your scriptures and Greek, Roman or Egyptian or other mythology. You cannot compare them as they belong to 2 different dimensions: divine and a mundane human one.

Please, read the quote below and visit the website where there are very informative articles from that book, also the one regarding British politics in colonial India.



Characteristics and the origination of the myths of the world?

       We should now understand what a myth is. Myth is the imaginative fiction of the minds of the ancient natives of a country who believed that there were some kind of nature gods who were involved in the creation, maintenance and destruction of the world, and in some way they also influenced the social life of the people. Thus, they formulated imaginative stories about them and started worshiping them in their own style by offering sacrifices of such animals which they themselves used to eat.

There are thousands of mythologies. Every country in the world has a number of mythologies. Their imaginations about the shape of god also differ from country to country. For example, Greek gods are portrayed in human form, whereas the Egyptian gods are portrayed as having a human body with a human or an animal head and with a peculiar dress. There are all kinds of mythologies: cosmogony or creation myth, myth about the last judgement and death, myth of the destruction of the world, myth of human generation like of Adam and Eve, myth about the period of creation, just like the Zoroastrians of ancient Persia believed in four periods of 3,000 years (12,000 years) only, myth about the soul leaving the body after death, just like the Egyptians believed that the soul flies out from the body like a bird after death, and many more.

Characteristics: There are eight main characteristics of the myths. (1) They have no philosophy of any kind. (2) They have no exact time of the births of gods. It means they have no real history of their imagined gods. (3) They have no scientific description of any kind regarding the creation and destruction of the world, or birth of souls and their karmas etc. (4) The number of their gods and goddesses is flexible. It means that during various periods of time new gods and goddesses have been created and added to the mythology. (5) There is no definite place or dimension for their gods to live in. Just some vague imaginations like the Greek gods are supposed to live on Mount Olympus in Greece. (6) There is absolutely no description of the Divineness of gods. (7) Their gods and goddesses are filled with human weaknesses like lust, greed, jealously and anger etc., and (8) their gods and goddesses have never been visualized in actual life because they are just the fiction stories of primitive minds. These are the common characteristics that are found in all the mythologies of the world. These mythologies assume the shape of the religion of that country and people keep on worshiping these imaginative figures for their whole life, just like Alexander worshiped Heracles and his mother worshiped Dionysus.

The source of mythological imaginations.

If someone studies these mythologies carefully he will find that in spite of great descriptional differences there is some kind of basic similarity among them which makes one think that they might have come through some common source, and it is a fact that they did come from one common source.

All these mythologies describe about the creation of the world from the void or the sky. They also describe about the destruction of the world. They describe about the beginning of human civilization from some original couple like Adam and Eve. They also tell about gods and demons or evil spirits. Some mythologies (like that of Germanic people) tell about a huge 'world serpent' holding the earth, and about a certain distant land of happiness where good people go after death. Some mythologies tell about a certain region where all the dead people go, and so on. These are the general descriptions of the mythologies of the world. These descriptions are vague, bear no philosophical details and have no preciseness of the number of gods or goddesses or their living abodes etc., yet they have a general similarity. They also tell about the god of rain and thunder, god of fire, god of water, god of wisdom and god of arts etc.

The prime source from where these ideas originated was, of course, the stories of the Puranas of Bharatvarsh which traveled through the trade routes from word of mouth and reached the other countries in a broken form because they traveled from mouth to mouth. Then, from there, they traveled to other far-off countries of the world. As a general instinct, the primitive people also thought that certain invisible super forces might exist somewhere in the space which cause or control the natural happenings like disastrous rain, hail, strong thundering clouds, stormy wind or brush fire etc., which affected their daily life. When the stories of god of fire or god of rain and thunder etc. reached these people it supported their basic imaginations, and thus, all such stories of gods and goddesses that reached these places were incorporated in their folk tales with their added imaginations. In this way the mythologies started. They prevailed in the society for a long time. Later on, when the writing system started, they were written down in a book form. Thus, among the variations of the descriptions of the mythologies of different countries, there remains a similarity because the basic stories of creation, destruction and gods and goddesses came from one single source, India (Bharatvarsh).


Radhey! Radhey!

Edited by vedantka - 22 January 2012 at 11:59pm

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Posted: 18 January 2012 at 10:58pm | IP Logged
vedantka thank you for sharing this. I have not come across many westerners who have been honest enough to share information where religion and ancient stories are concerned. 
The damage the British and many other rulers have perpatrated still persists in India. It may take centuries of radical thinking to erase the nay accept the damage first and then go ahead to rectify it. But the ground realities of conversion, caste wars both hot and cold, political dramas, deforestation and nuclear reactors being built in historical areas may soon remove all the actual proofs of Ramayana, Mahabharata, Vedas and Upanishads as the historical truths of the people of India. Sad but true. After Independence, Indians themselves are destroying what the Britishers could not in a more systematic manner.

Yet somewhere, a thin but tenacious thread of belief is holding on so these oral historical accounts now in the form of books are surviving and people are practising them in actuality. But books like which you have quoted and more need to be read , understood and places visited not just for rituals but with deep respect for the place so that truth may emerge strong and life gets a deeper respectful meaning.

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...Mina... IF-Dazzler

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Posted: 19 January 2012 at 10:39am | IP Logged
hiii gosia dii, welcome to our forum !!Hug
ur are absolutely right, our hindu scriptures r not mythological stories as by the definition !! but i think the name stuck so people r using this name only, but for me these stories r all very much true and REAL !Approve ram ji and krishn bhagwan r not mythical characters but real human avatars of the lord just like historical figures like prithviraj chauhan and chandragupt maurya ! they r even more real to me than all the other historical people we believe r real !!Embarrassed
thanx for creating this topic dii, it was very interesting !

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vedantka Groupbie

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Posted: 19 January 2012 at 5:03pm | IP Logged
Hi Goldie-ji,

thank you a lot for your interestSmile

I think it is very important for Hindu community to create appropriate impression about Vedic scriptures on a worldly forum. If you use term "mythological' towards your own Divine historical figures or events, even  without really meaning it, it truly does a lot of harm as others( like many westerners or simply people of other faiths) may use it (and will use it) as an argument against Hinduism.

Sanatan Dharm is extremely complex and most people brought up in very simplistic spiritual traditions(like Christianity) will not have proper ontological base to grasp even the basic Vedic concepts so as a reflex they try to ridicule or demean Hinduism and by using a term 'mythology' you give them another argument against credibility of Hinduism.
You should be so proud of your Divine Scriptures, they are priceless.

Words can be very powerful and if used incorrectly can also be quite destructive.

The constructive approach in life means that once a mistake is realized, it is corrected.

I would suggest the use of term  "MYSTICAL" instead as many events from Ramayan, Mahabharat or puranas have very mystical character.
Actually we could even say that Shree Krishn is the Supreme Mystic.
So guys think about it :

Big smile"MYSTICAL MASTI" Big smile sounds so much better ...

Jai Shree Krishna !!!

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mallikaBalu IF-Dazzler

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Posted: 20 January 2012 at 3:31am | IP Logged
Gosia nice idea.

It would also be nice to remeber that thes etwo great so called stories are called the Great Epics.
So how about the name Epic EngagemetsSmile

I rellay appreciate a separate forum to discuss and exchange knowledge about our epics and Vedas. It is truly needed.

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