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Originally posted by bharat9

So Kshirsagar and Sagar both equals one? So it was Kshirsagar that was churned. Thank you.


Yes, Kshirsagar was churned. Kshirsagar and Sagar as in Sagar manthan mean the same. But Kshirsagar and Sagar as in King Sagar are different. 


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Notice how Shiv spelt backwards is Vish(nu) and Vish(nu) spelt backwards is Shiv... as in if you take the Hindi spelling... as "Sh" is one akshar/letter.

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Quite a few things here, so let me address it all in 1 post.  Akhl, hope you get your response on the conflict management advice.

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From what I understand, Sagar is the ocean that the Ganga empties into.  As Akhl mentioned, after Bhagiratha got Ganga down to earth and she washed away the remains of Sagar's 60k sons, she ultimately washed it all into the ocean, which from that day onwards, came to be known as Sagar.

The samudra manthan that Vishnu was involved in organizing was more likely or not in the heavens, rather than on Bhulok.  Ksheersagar is the ocean in Vaikuntha where Sesha rests, and on him, Vishnu & Lakshmi.  The very locations of these are different.

I'm not convinced that Sati was still around during the Treta Yuga.  I think the Samudra manthan did occur during the Satya Yuga, and I doubt that it happened during the reign of Bali.  Samudra manthan coincides w/ Kurma avatar, which was followed later by Varaha, Narasimha & Vamana avatars.  IIRC, Hiranyakashipu's death was when the Satya Yuga ended and the Treta Yuga began.  But I'm not aware of what was going on in Kailash @ the time.

As for Rama's yagnas, they were done in Naimisharanya, which is in Sitapur district in UP.  Sati's death happened in Daksha's abode which was not on Bhulok, even if Mahadev himself was on Kailash.  One tradition has it that Sati's remains fell in different locations in India, and are pilgrim sites for some of the followers - don't remember the exact details.

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Originally posted by .Vrish.

Samudra manthan coincides w/ Kurma avatar, which was followed later by Varaha, Narasimha & Vamana avatars.  IIRC, Hiranyakashipu's death was when the Satya Yuga ended and the Treta Yuga began.  But I'm not aware of what was going on in Kailash @ the time.



The above as you mentioned does make sense! Never thought in that way! Thanks




Originally posted by .Vrish.

Sati's death happened in Daksha's abode which was not on Bhulok, even if Mahadev himself was on Kailash.  One tradition has it that Sati's remains fell in different locations in India, and are pilgrim sites for some of the followers - don't remember the exact details.



The pilgrim sites where various parts of Sati's body fell are known as Shakti Peethas, 52 in total or so.


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shakti peeths

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakti_Peethas


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Some say there is 108 Shakti Peeths...

Sati's story happened way near the beginning of creation time, not like Shri Ram's time! Most of all the stories happened before Shri Ram's time!

This Ksheersagar and Sagar thing is confusing. Sagar means ocean doesn't it?

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Some say that  when Parvati or Sati came to test Shri Ram disguised as Sita ji  since then Lord Shiva could never fully accept Her as His wife, hence one of the reason for Sati/Parvati to incarnate. Is this right?

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Originally posted by sattvik

Some say there is 108 Shakti Peeths..


Not sure. Various sources say different number. Maybe someone else can answer this question.

Found this info though:


'The primary sacred places of the goddess are the Shakti Pithas and they are variously described in different texts as being 18, 51, 52 or 108 in number, each of these sites being associated with a particular part of Shakti's body.'

Source: http://www.sacredsites.com/asia/india/srisailam_shakti_pitha.html

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