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Posted: 18 April 2012 at 3:17am | IP Logged
Originally posted by shruti.nil

I have a question...when at what point of time did the Samudra Manthan take place?in Parvatis Birth or Satis Birth...?...Shiva is supposed to be married during that time because they say its Pravati/Uma who holds his throat when he drinks the poison hence resulting in him becoming Neelkanth
Narayan takes his second Avatar during the Samudra Manthan of Kurma
so when does it take place..?
im confused!

As flamingo_aries  mentioned, Satya Yuga is correct, as this happened b4 Varaha avatar.  However, it's unclear whether Sati was Shiva's wife at that time, or Parvati.  Or in between.  I wasn't aware that either Sati or Parvati held his throat to prevent the poison from entering - I thought it entered all right, but b'cos he's immortal, nothing happened to him.

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Posted: 18 April 2012 at 4:01am | IP Logged
@Vrish...many versions said that he did have a consort...ive read an actual scripture of the Samdra Manthan and that says "Uma" a term used for both Parvati and Sati...Sati existed during Satyayug...but was she there for Samudra Manthan?...Parvati had already arrived in Tretayug-where she disguised as Sita to test Ram...
hmm...thats something to ponder on!
i wanted to know since the Samudra Manthan is a a very important event in Shivas leelas...

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Posted: 18 April 2012 at 4:09am | IP Logged
Originally posted by shruti.nil

@Vrish...many versions said that he did have a consort...ive read an actual scripture of the Samdra Manthan and that says "Uma" a term used for both Parvati and Sati...Sati existed during Satyayug...but was she there for Samudra Manthan?...Parvati had already arrived in Tretayug-where she disguised as Sita to test Ram...
hmm...thats something to ponder on!
i wanted to know since the Samudra Manthan is a a very important event in Shivas leelas...

I don't know about the above story about testing Rama, but in Uttarkand, where they describe the history of Ravana, Vali and Hanuman, they mention how Ravana had lifted Kailash and Parvati was the one nervous, so Shiva pressed on the mountain and Ravan was suddenly overburdened by the weight of Mt Kailash.  So yeah, Parvati was definitely there throughout the Treta Yuga.

What is unclear is whether Parvati or Sati was the one there for the Samudra Manthan.


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Posted: 18 April 2012 at 7:23am | IP Logged
Where does Tarakasur live? He is generally shown sitting in a place without roof, is this supposed to be Patal-loka?

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^^^^ Was he a ruler of pataal?  I thought that after his boon, he went on to conquer Devalok.  If one goes by the Southern recensions that have Surapadman and Simhamukha, after they got their boons, they overran Amrapali and enslaved the Devas.

That's actually a howler in this serial.  If Tarakasura has already received Brahma's boon that only Shiva's son can kill him, then what is he still doing wherever he is?  In the original, once these demons - Ravana, Tarakasura, Hiranyakashipu, et al got their boons, they lost no time in trashing the devas and seizing their kingdoms, or subjugating them.  Here, they're showing the Devas merrily enjoying, but the Devas were a miserable lot when Tarakasura got his boons, which is why they risked Kamadeva in getting Shiva distracted towards Parvati.

I missed last few episodes - is Vritra still alive, or did Indra manage to kill him?  If he's dead, then showing Dadichi alive is a major howler.

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^^^Vritrasur is stll alive but he has lost his power to change forms, he was telling Tarakasura, now for many years he will have to do penance to get that power back. So he must be back to penance.

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