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Posted: 27 March 2006 at 3:03am | IP Logged
Originally posted by leoni

Originally posted by Bhaskar.T

Originally posted by leoni

Well can anyone update me with latest happening in this thread cause I m not getting any head or tail …..Title of post is of HR but I m reading about Salman Khan………I m totally puzzled guys help…… Confused

Sorry you have to go back many pages to go through HR---Laloo-- Gandhiji-- Nehruji and finally Salman.......

Unless you go through them all you'll remain ignorabt of all the facts Wink

 

Aaila…so HR has tuned himself now into Laloo, Ghandhiji, Nehuryji and finally Salman KhanShocked

 

LOL

Forgot to add hitler on that list..... Add that too......

I must say good combination for a discussion Clap

 

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Posted: 27 March 2006 at 3:08am | IP Logged
Originally posted by kabhi_21

Originally posted by ramdi

Originally posted by kabhi_21

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Originally posted by kabhi_21

Originally posted by guess_gallery

ya, he is not a singer by fluke but by a mistake...

 

Whichever Way.... thx for agreeing "he is a Singer

I am also singer in the bathroom...LOL

Dont worry.... we wl give u IF award for Best Bathroom Singer

already given..

some people changed the name of this award to Filmfare and Zee and already awarded the prize..

It is for u ramdi

 

now you know who got these awards this year, right?LOL

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Posted: 27 March 2006 at 3:09am | IP Logged
Originally posted by adwarakanath

Originally posted by angel1601

Originally posted by adwarakanath

Originally posted by juggyE

Originally posted by Bhaskar.T

One thing I must say goes to HR's credit. He has managed to get some crazy die hard fan following. Thats really a big achievement and we should give due credit for that to him ClapClap Wink



I dont know if thats quite true...
No offense intended but some of these were probably die hard fans of Anu Malik after the songs from Murder came out and became "superhit".

I still maintain that this new found love of HR (for some) is due to the infatuation for one of his protege's (who I will not name due to obvious reasons)...


Precisely my point. Thanks juggyji.

Infact, I had opened a poll where the results were quite revealing.

Maximum votes went to - 'I like HR because I like Vinit'.

That says a lot.


Okay, first of all, I must say - Angelji, where have you been all this while?Big smile. Arey yaar, we could've had interesting logical arguments for and against our favouritesWinkWinkWink.

Okay, jokes apart, here's a concise review on why we do not like HR - His music and him as a person.

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1) His compositions are okay, nothing great. His recent compositions have been awful from a purely technical point of view. Most of them have been 4-chord, 4-6-8 beat tracks, composed on the computer. That does not, in anyway, show the talent of the composer. He, along with other such people like V-S, AM, Pritam etc are solely responsible for the complete westernisation of the Indian Sound. Why are we calling it Indian music then? What is our identitiy? With a 5000 year old richest tradition of music, why can't these people compose anything Indian, since they're Indians composing for Indian Movies?

2) He has stolen quite a few numbers in his short career. They number more than 15 in his short 6-7 years in the Industry. AM has about 30 stolen tunes to his credit, after being here for 25 years. ID has not a single stolen tune, after being around for much the same as HR.

3) He takes credit for things which are not his. 'Tere Naam' was a total rehash of L-P's old tunes. He accepted credit for it until Bhansali pointed out, very politely - 'aapke gaanon mein L-P' ki jhalak aati hai', to which, HR replied 'sir, unhi ke gaane hain'. Never gave Krishna credit for the alaaps in ABA remix songs.

4) He is quite an arrogant fellow regarding his music. He says he has a stock of 1000 tunes ready. Then why does he still copy? Why does he still recycle his older tunes? I'd like to know. I gave a glowing review of Benaras after just one listen. After 2-3 listens, the only original tracks in that seem to be Purab Se and Yeh Hai Banaras Ki Shaam, sung by Pt. Abhyankar, and I don't know how much credit HR should be given for that. All others are rehases of his old tunes, some from the late 80s of N-S and the folk songs are note to note copies.

5) He has dared to make statements like - 'Aajkal Rafi ko kaun sunta hai', 'Yeh gana to south ke SPB aur Yesudas bhi nahin gaa sakte', 'i am probably the first MD to be recognised for singing too'. Well, I think either he's too ignorant, or he's out and out arrogant. Hemantda was a such a respected MD with golden hits like Anupama, Sahib Biwi Aur Ghulam (man, what a classic!), etc to his credit. And he's one of the best singers we've ever had in the industry. ARR is a singer par excellence whose Vande Mataram broke quite a few records. Kishoreda composed beautiful songs and well...what a singer he was! And how can we forget the sweet croonings of Dada Burman in what could be the best picturised and immaculately composed 'Mere Sajan Hai Us Paar'.

6) He was supposed to be a Guru in SRGMP. A Guru, as per the traditional 'Gharana' system, is supposed to be like a father...equal to all his children. A Guru always corrects a student's mistakes, shows him the right path and never hypes him. HR did everything wrong. He altered songs and tracks to make it easier for Vinit (Aaja aaja, Parda Hai Parda), he hyped him to such an extent that Ujjaini and Paresh were totally neglected. Vinit's gayaki in the stages preceding the Angipariksha was awesome. But later on, it deteriorated, and he became overconfident and arrogant too. Where was the purpose of a Guru served here?

7) His comments with AS regarding Assam. The issue was blown out of proportion. A legal person can interpret those statements as treason, and HR and AS can be booked under Indian Law for treason, technically.

I can give more reason, but this much is enough for a general idea.Smile.

Please take this as constructive criticizm and not bashing. This is just my opinion and idea.

arrey abhiji i was just a bit busy with my exams

but dont worry i am definitely back in full form to have some really logical and interesting arguments LOL

u may be right as far as the technical aspect of hr's music is concerned

but today sales are really the deciding factor for a music albums sucess

one may produce indian classical tunes which are appreciated by all critics and classical music lovers

but wht is the use of critical appreciation if the album fails to earn required profits for the music company

do u think it is fair on the part of the music company which has invested so much in that album

today the biggest form of sucess of a music album is the sales response that album gets from the audience

it is the biggest form of apprecation

so as far as hr is churning hits at regular intervals and if his albums are becoming a rage then the music company,the producer of the film as well as the common man buying the music are all satisfied

and that is what is expected of a music director today and i think hr is fulfilling all the expectations of him todayWink

 

 



Arey haan, aaj boards khatam hue honge na...how did they go? Best of luck for the resultsWink


Angelji, you misunderstand me when I say 'Indian Music'. Indian music is not only classical.

One more thing is, people find it hard to distinguish between 'raga based' and 'classical based'.

Ragas can be used to create ANY type of song. Absolutely. Would you believe such a western sounding song like 'Nach Baliye' was Raga based?

Or let's take the classic 'Churaliya Hai Tumne Jo Dil Ko'.

Or the hilarious 'Ek Chatur Naar' or 'Pag Ghungroo Bandh'...all raga based tracks.

Yes, not many appreciate classical based tracks, but albums like Paheli and Parineeta still sell in millions. And they're all raga based.

The point is making soulful music rooted in Indian Principles. We have so much, classical, folk, devotional...so many different sub genres too. Our 5000 years of music tradition is enough to create music for anything.

Now whent the westerners are incorporating heavy Indian influences in their soundtracks, we are doing the opposite. Why?
And almost 90% of HR's songs are like that...Aksar, ABA etc. Why?

thanx abhi

to be sucessful one needs to keep a track of the changing tastes of the audiences

if the current trend that hr is following is going well with the audience then i see no reason for him to stop that

as far as paheli and parineeta is concerned they may be much superior to aksar and aba music but it is common knowledge that its sales were nothing if compared to aksar and aba

when a producer signs a md he expects him to create music that will go well wit the theme of the film and help him recover his investment in the music album

if majority of the audience wants to hear songs like jhalak dikhlaja and aba then hr is definitely not wrong in producing them

wht say???Wink

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Posted: 27 March 2006 at 3:10am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Bhaskar.T

Originally posted by soulsoup

Originally posted by Bhaskar.T

Originally posted by leoni

Well can anyone update me with latest happening in this thread cause I m not getting any head or tail …..Title of post is of HR but I m reading about Salman Khan………I m totally puzzled guys help…… Confused

Sorry you have to go back many pages to go through HR---Laloo-- Gandhiji-- Nehruji and finally Salman.......

Unless you go through them all you'll remain ignorabt of all the facts Wink

 

 

 

My God u  guys r too much….see u all have frighten our lil Mohini away……

 



Hitler bhi cameo entry marke geya tha ekbar

Oh yes leoni Hitler ne bhi ek baar entry maari thhi..... Just a single episode....... LOL

 

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Posted: 27 March 2006 at 3:11am | IP Logged
Originally posted by ramdi

Originally posted by kabhi_21

Originally posted by ramdi

Originally posted by kabhi_21

Originally posted by ramdi

Originally posted by kabhi_21

Originally posted by guess_gallery

ya, he is not a singer by fluke but by a mistake...

 

Whichever Way.... thx for agreeing "he is a Singer

I am also singer in the bathroom...LOL

Dont worry.... we wl give u IF award for Best Bathroom Singer

already given..

some people changed the name of this award to Filmfare and Zee and already awarded the prize..

It is for u ramdi

 

now you know who got these awards this year, right?LOL

Dont compare HR with u ramdi.....U may be a singer but he is composer alsoLOLLOL

ramdi Senior Member
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Posted: 27 March 2006 at 3:12am | IP Logged
Originally posted by kabhi_21

Originally posted by ramdi

Originally posted by kabhi_21

Originally posted by ramdi

Originally posted by kabhi_21

Originally posted by ramdi

Originally posted by kabhi_21

Originally posted by guess_gallery

ya, he is not a singer by fluke but by a mistake...

 

Whichever Way.... thx for agreeing "he is a Singer

I am also singer in the bathroom...LOL

Dont worry.... we wl give u IF award for Best Bathroom Singer

already given..

some people changed the name of this award to Filmfare and Zee and already awarded the prize..

It is for u ramdi

 

now you know who got these awards this year, right?LOL

Dont compare HR with u ramdi.....U may be a singer but he is composer alsoLOLLOL

oh sorry boss..LOLLOLLOL

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Posted: 27 March 2006 at 3:13am | IP Logged

My God u guys r too much….see u all have frighten our lil Mohini away……



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Abhi yaar.... mere comments padhke bhag gaya....... com on main aur thodi der hu bas

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