Posted: 27 March 2006 at 2:49am | IP Logged
Originally posted by adwarakanath
Originally posted by juggyE
Originally posted by Bhaskar.T
One thing I must say goes to HR's credit. He has managed to get some crazy die hard fan following. Thats really a big achievement and we should give due credit for that to him
I dont know if thats quite true...
No offense intended but some of these were probably die hard fans of Anu Malik after the songs from Murder came out and became "superhit".
I still maintain that this new found love of HR (for some) is due to the infatuation for one of his protege's (who I will not name due to obvious reasons)...
Precisely my point. Thanks juggyji.
Infact, I had opened a poll where the results were quite revealing.
Maximum votes went to - 'I like HR because I like Vinit'.
That says a lot.
Okay, first of all, I must say - Angelji, where have you been all this while?
. Arey yaar, we could've had interesting logical arguments for and against our favourites
Okay, jokes apart, here's a concise review on why we do not like HR - His music and him as a person.
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1) His compositions are okay, nothing great. His recent compositions have been awful from a purely technical point of view. Most of them have been 4-chord, 4-6-8 beat tracks, composed on the computer. That does not, in anyway, show the talent of the composer. He, along with other such people like V-S, AM, Pritam etc are solely responsible for the complete westernisation of the Indian Sound. Why are we calling it Indian music then? What is our identitiy? With a 5000 year old richest tradition of music, why can't these people compose anything Indian, since they're Indians composing for Indian Movies?
2) He has stolen quite a few numbers in his short career. They number more than 15 in his short 6-7 years in the Industry. AM has about 30 stolen tunes to his credit, after being here for 25 years. ID has not a single stolen tune, after being around for much the same as HR.
3) He takes credit for things which are not his. 'Tere Naam' was a total rehash of L-P's old tunes. He accepted credit for it until Bhansali pointed out, very politely - 'aapke gaanon mein L-P' ki jhalak aati hai', to which, HR replied 'sir, unhi ke gaane hain'. Never gave Krishna credit for the alaaps in ABA remix songs.
4) He is quite an arrogant fellow regarding his music. He says he has a stock of 1000 tunes ready. Then why does he still copy? Why does he still recycle his older tunes? I'd like to know. I gave a glowing review of Benaras after just one listen. After 2-3 listens, the only original tracks in that seem to be Purab Se and Yeh Hai Banaras Ki Shaam, sung by Pt. Abhyankar, and I don't know how much credit HR should be given for that. All others are rehases of his old tunes, some from the late 80s of N-S and the folk songs are note to note copies.
5) He has dared to make statements like - 'Aajkal Rafi ko kaun sunta hai', 'Yeh gana to south ke SPB aur Yesudas bhi nahin gaa sakte', 'i am probably the first MD to be recognised for singing too'. Well, I think either he's too ignorant, or he's out and out arrogant. Hemantda was a such a respected MD with golden hits like Anupama, Sahib Biwi Aur Ghulam (man, what a classic!), etc to his credit. And he's one of the best singers we've ever had in the industry. ARR is a singer par excellence whose Vande Mataram broke quite a few records. Kishoreda composed beautiful songs and well...what a singer he was! And how can we forget the sweet croonings of Dada Burman in what could be the best picturised and immaculately composed 'Mere Sajan Hai Us Paar'.
6) He was supposed to be a Guru in SRGMP. A Guru, as per the traditional 'Gharana' system, is supposed to be like a father...equal to all his children. A Guru always corrects a student's mistakes, shows him the right path and never hypes him. HR did everything wrong. He altered songs and tracks to make it easier for Vinit (Aaja aaja, Parda Hai Parda), he hyped him to such an extent that Ujjaini and Paresh were totally neglected. Vinit's gayaki in the stages preceding the Angipariksha was awesome. But later on, it deteriorated, and he became overconfident and arrogant too. Where was the purpose of a Guru served here?
7) His comments with AS regarding Assam. The issue was blown out of proportion. A legal person can interpret those statements as treason, and HR and AS can be booked under Indian Law for treason, technically.
I can give more reason, but this much is enough for a general idea.
Please take this as constructive criticizm and not bashing. This is just my opinion and idea.
arrey abhiji i was just a bit busy with my exams
but dont worry i am definitely back in full form to have some really logical and interesting arguments
u may be right as far as the technical aspect of hr's music is concerned
but today sales are really the deciding factor for a music albums sucess
one may produce indian classical tunes which are appreciated by all critics and classical music lovers
but wht is the use of critical appreciation if the album fails to earn required profits for the music company
do u think it is fair on the part of the music company which has invested so much in that album
today the biggest form of sucess of a music album is the sales response that album gets from the audience
it is the biggest form of apprecation
so as far as hr is churning hits at regular intervals and if his albums are becoming a rage then the music company,the producer of the film as well as the common man buying the music are all satisfied
and that is what is expected of a music director today and i think hr is fulfilling all the expectations of him today