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"Aao to Welcome, Jaao to Bheed Kum" (Page 13)

seema_17 IF-Rockerz
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Posted: 13 March 2006 at 9:39am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Jem4SRK

guys please ye sab bhool jao...

lets move forward not back Cry

awww Jemdi, its not just abt him saying that to Abhi, but that is directed at all the members i suppose, aao tho welcome jaao tho bheed kam. u kno how insulting and belittling that sounds, the only reason i am sticking around is cuz my friends r here.... otherwise i would have left too.... but i love u Jemdi and i am here for u Hug

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Posted: 13 March 2006 at 9:40am | IP Logged
thanks seema...Big smile but really we should move on Wink
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Posted: 13 March 2006 at 9:41am | IP Logged
Originally posted by apparaohoare

Originally posted by Swar_Raj

Ok You all agree that he used foul language and got warning, still used it and got banned...said sorry and came back..so what is the problem????

if U saw someone else doing it..then report the link or post.
If it is due to Vijay saying..then what is wrong..Welcome to stay and bye bye if you donot want to be a part of the forum. No one forces U to be a part of it and no one is forcing to go away. it is a public place..stay and obey rules, if cannot then please..there are lots of chats

The problem is with partiality.  If you ban Abhi, then ban each and every member who has ever used profanity, or any other things mentioned by Vijay.  We do not have a problem with that. Lets all get fair treatment here.

 

Sir, Mods are just doing their job by giving warnings and then ban..if a person stops using foul after geting ban and helps mods, their warning level decreasess. How can they ban anyone with no warning first. We should give them benefit of doubt. Mr AD himself has agreed that he had increased warning level..and yet he didnot listen. ..THis i am saying after reading the posts in last two days.  I donot know him but this is what his posting said. Few days back, he was attacking the Mod directly too.

So  your demand really stands no where. Inspite of warnings if anyone uses foul lang and not gets ban..then u should raise this question. And the way Mods have been working, i doubt there is a case like that.

prash123 Senior Member
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Posted: 13 March 2006 at 9:47am | IP Logged
Appa,
Is Abhi banned? can I know the reason? whats goin on. I have also noticed some kind og injustice with some members. Some members do allow to discuss some nonsence issues but not other...Whats goin on?
fm_qazi Goldie
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Posted: 13 March 2006 at 9:58am | IP Logged
This is what I had posted earlier quoting Vijay's comments. It got deleted, I accepted it with disagreement that a quoted comment should be deleted. It is fine in current atmosphere. And then I told Vijay that I would not change my comment, he told it was fine, I could post it without edit. But still I am amending one word and posting it again. It is my view on Vijay's comment, please do not make it an issue. I thought I raised valid issue, so I am posting it again. And This comment is also to make atmosphere better. It is easy to put blame on other but it is really important to look to ourselves.

Vijay,

Do you think you started that commmetn in question properly? You mentioned that you are entering that thread like late entry of a police in movie. What did you want to convey by those lines? Was not that line showing you were enjoying the sorrow situation? I am really sorry to say but I have to say that it is very kiddish behavior from you. Then in the end using unprofessional sentence like "Aao to welcome, Jao to bheed kum" was in very bad taste. We used those kind of language in our college life. There are so many better ways to say those things. I am always against using bad languages which are not good for any society. But do you think your behavior in that topic was good? I am really sad to see those kind of phrases from some one who own this big forum with 100,000 members(as mentioned by mod). Moderators I always respected you and will keep respecting you. But I do not want to be in this place where irresponsibility/anarchy has become part of daily life. You can say me to be part of the Bheed. But as a responsible citizen and senior member of this forum I can say I learned great lesson in this forum. And came to know about different kind of persons. Good bye.

FM Qazi

I am against any kind of profanity or use of F-word. But I saw the divisive forces here who had clearly disrespected our nation and our sentiments. That we can not tolerate.
Swar_Raj IF-Dazzler
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Posted: 13 March 2006 at 10:11am | IP Logged

I see Qazi and Mr Ad saying same remark..that someone used bad words against the nation. No one will tolerate that and we will alls tand to taht..but i have still not seen that and Mods have also asked about ti. If u were there then huw coem it was not getting reported?????

Pl report such postings...I do too and i am sure Mods willt ake appropriate steps.
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Posted: 13 March 2006 at 10:45am | IP Logged

Originally posted by Swar_Raj


I see Qazi and Mr Ad saying same remark..that someone used bad words against the nation. No one will tolerate that and we will alls tand to taht..but i have still not seen that and Mods have also asked about ti. If u were there then huw coem it was not getting reported?????

Pl report such postings...I do too and i am sure Mods willt ake appropriate steps.

time for a lil bit of sensitivity training:

lets assume someone says to you: you are voice of ReligionA, not voice of everyone; or you are voice of THAT RegionA, not voice of India. There are certain things that are happening here on a subtle level:

there is a connotation that your ReligionA or RegionA is bad. I do not know if someone has actually used religion, but talk which implicitly denigrades a region is also worse than any personal abuse. Look at all the things which qualify as "hate" crimes, and you'll find that region, ethnicity and nationality rank high. These are considered worse than personal abuse because they offend so many. And talk of someone being affiliated with some terrorist org, that is slander of the worst kind, worse than any personal abuse.

actually, some of the posts in reference are not even as polished as that. they are worse- aside from poor grammar and poor logic, they offend the sensibilities more directly.

tell me, if someone goes through the bother of digging out these posts, what specific action would be taken? the same as what was done when i first started reporting them?

you want personal abuse? how does "rishte mei tumhare baap lagte hain" sound to you. fine? can it then use it for u? happened right under the nose of moderators who kept giving "sheh" to certain people in the name of "winning back the peace". i disregard such things as juvenile and dont even bother reporting them- i can handle personal insults hurled at me, but find it harder to deal with attacks, subtle or otherwise, which attack my nationality or ethnicity.

the fact that you see certain people in sgmp or the lady in the audience mouthing some of these things do not make it OK. they just need a lot of training. in most other countries, they would have been shown the door. Kicked out unceremoniously. Fired. Sued.

there was a big hue-and-cry when the Harvard President, Dr Lawrence Summers quoted something from research which was failrly innocuous and actually true. That got construed as a put-down against females in general and has led to his problems.

let's start here before we go further with the issue of tactfully dealing with problematical customers even in a monopolistic setting (the setting of IF), of showing to investors that someone is mature enough to manage what is essentially a service business (the IT components of this site are very easy to replicate).

sorry, but i think it's high time we put these issues behind us but we are not doing so when we are intent on throwing things at some folks. to keep on at it one way and not expect the other side to speak up, that would be unfair.

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Posted: 13 March 2006 at 10:59am | IP Logged
Originally posted by apparaohoare

Originally posted by Swar_Raj

Ok You all agree that he used foul language and got warning, still used it and got banned...said sorry and came back..so what is the problem????

if U saw someone else doing it..then report the link or post.
If it is due to Vijay saying..then what is wrong..Welcome to stay and bye bye if you donot want to be a part of the forum. No one forces U to be a part of it and no one is forcing to go away. it is a public place..stay and obey rules, if cannot then please..there are lots of chats

The problem is with partiality.  If you ban Abhi, then ban each and every member who has ever used profanity, or any other things mentioned by Vijay.  We do not have a problem with that. Lets all get fair treatment here.



Mr. Rao, 
In fact, I agree with you that if one person is banned for use of profanity, the treatment should apply to all equaally and no one, I repeat, no one, irrespective of who they are or who they are close to, should be allowed to get away with  breaking IF rules.

Henceforth, anyone who uses profanity will be warned and if the behaviour is repeated more than once, will definitely be banned. 

We just want fair treatment too. 

If anyone sees any post which contains profanity, please report it immediately and if possible, please pm a Mod or a Global Mod who is online, Action will be taken immediately.

No more partiality.  I am with you guys there that in any forum, partiality to any one person or set of persons can only cause imbalance in the forum and will only lead to unhappiness.  We want to change that and we will. 

Regards,
Priya

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