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Posted: 13 March 2006 at 1:23am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Ms. Bholi Bhali

wow, thanks Soulsoup


although most of it went above my head, but still its really imformative, I will read it two times more, and then I will understand it for sure Embarrassed


LOL You are welcome!

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Posted: 13 March 2006 at 2:49am | IP Logged
Thanx for the in depth definition! What are octaves though? I've always wondered...
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Posted: 13 March 2006 at 11:02am | IP Logged
WOW! thanks you guys, you all have been a great help !!
Now I understand what they are talking about!!! Wink Big smile
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Posted: 13 March 2006 at 6:11pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Jeshwant

Can someone plz tell me what Sur and Antara means. The mentors al always talking about sur and antara ... but I really don't understand what it is!ConfusedConfused

Thanks in advance!!Wink

 

SUR = Musical note / pitch / tone. Like Sa, Re, Dha, C-sharp, B-flat etc.

In the context of your question, the judges are trying to say that the singer sang a few notes incorrectly, as compared to the original composition, meaning they were out of tune in a few places.

 

ANTARA = Any paragraph of the song, except the first / opening paragraph/stanza. The opening stanza, a.k.a. the mukhda or the refrain, is usually repeated in part or full between each antara. In some type of songs, there is a special name for the last paragraph also, but that's a different subject, for another day.

In the context of your question, when the the judges talk about the antara, they are referring to the 2nd stanza of the song.

 

Hope this helps.

 

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Posted: 13 March 2006 at 7:29pm | IP Logged
soulsoup, Clap Clap
Had always wondered about this extensive usage of block chords whenever I downloaded western sheet music. But never asked my piano teacher... Now I know...

Also Reg..the difference between Equally tempered and Just Tempered Sequence...
So Does that means our harmonium and Piano keys do not sound exactly the same?
Also, how about stringed instruments... Are the violins too tuned differently for Indian classics from the way they are tuned for Western Classics?

Originally posted by soulsoup


Indian classical music does not use what are called chords, or pressing more than one key simultaneously. Chords are a major aspect of Western music and producing harmony via chords is a natural consequence of the Equally tempered (geometric series) arrangement of the keys. <span>If keys were arranged in a Just tempered sequence, pressing more than one key at a given time might produce an unpleasant sound pattern resulting in what is called 'Besur' (in Hindustani music) or 'Abaswaram' (in Karnatic music).</span> By the way, one more advantage of Equal temperment of pianos and keyboards is that it makes it easier to 'tune' them, (they go out of tune every once in a while and need to be tuned periodically) since each key is harmonically related to the other keys. In case of Just tempered arrangement, since the key ratio between adjacent keys is not a constant, most keys will have to be tuned individually.<div><div><div><div>
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Posted: 13 March 2006 at 7:50pm | IP Logged
Thankyou Varshaji
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Posted: 13 March 2006 at 7:54pm | IP Logged
Just to add a little more info to those who might have got mislead by my earlier post that Piano is not a stringed instrument like Violin.
Technically, Piano is also a stringed instrument.
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Posted: 13 March 2006 at 8:36pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by zapman

Originally posted by Jeshwant

Can someone plz tell me what Sur and Antara means. The mentors al always talking about sur and antara ... but I really don't understand what it is!ConfusedConfused

Thanks in advance!!Wink

 

SUR = Musical note / pitch / tone. Like Sa, Re, Dha, C-sharp, B-flat etc.

In the context of your question, the judges are trying to say that the singer sang a few notes incorrectly, as compared to the original composition, meaning they were out of tune in a few places.

 

ANTARA = Any paragraph of the song, except the first / opening paragraph/stanza. The opening stanza, a.k.a. the mukhda or the refrain, is usually repeated in part or full between each antara. In some type of songs, there is a special name for the last paragraph also, but that's a different subject, for another day.

In the context of your question, when the the judges talk about the antara, they are referring to the 2nd stanza of the song.

 

Hope this helps.

 

NOW I understand. THanx!Tongue

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