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Posted: 02 December 2011 at 10:53am | IP Logged
Originally posted by _twilight_

If homosexuality is as positive and natural as someone earlier said why is it not generally  accepted or encouraged by religion or society?
It is positive and normal, it is just that not many people are homosexual or bisexual. Generally sex for pleasure is considered a sin. But in a hetrosexual relationship, especially between husband and wife, the couple can preted to have sex only for the purpose of producing offspring. Most relegions beleive that the aim of sex is to have offspring. Since homosexual relationships were not common and did not involve any "nobel" end product such as the birth of children, it was considered a sin. And something that was considered wrong for so many years cannot suddenly become right. It will take time for people to accept such views and to accept such people.

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Posted: 02 December 2011 at 11:08am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Petrouska

Originally posted by _twilight_

If homosexuality is as positive and natural as someone earlier said why is it not generally  accepted or encouraged by religion or society?
It is positive and normal, it is just that not many people are homosexual or bisexual. Generally sex for pleasure is considered a sin. But in a hetrosexual relationship, especially between husband and wife, the couple can preted to have sex only for the purpose of producing offspring. Most relegions beleive that the aim of sex is to have offspring. Since homosexual relationships were not common and did not involve any "nobel" end product such as the birth of children, it was considered a sin. And something that was considered wrong for so many years cannot suddenly become right. It will take time for people to accept such views and to accept such people.
Sin or not, procreation was and is considered to be important . There would be social implications. The social impact was given priority  to individual cravings.

As the numbers of LGBT increase in a particular community or nation  the population growth of that region or group would decline. This could be a cause for some concern especially as the other less tolerant or accommodating groups could soon outgrow  the former. That seems to impart an evolutionary disadvantage to a community.

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Posted: 02 December 2011 at 11:14am | IP Logged
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Considering that a lot of lesbian couples do choose to have kids through artificial insemination that is not as much of a concern. Gay men also donate to sperm banks which are used by straight couples, single women and lesbians. So in modern society procreation is not as much of a concern as it was in the past.

 

As a matter of fact we have population explosion in many parts and too many orphan/abandoned children. In some parts instead of women (lesbian or straight) bearing more children, it would be better for society if all couples adopted unfortunate children.


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Posted: 02 December 2011 at 11:25am | IP Logged
Originally posted by return_to_hades

^^Considering that a lot of lesbian couples do choose to have kids through artificial insemination that is not as much of a concern. Gay men also donate to sperm banks which are used by straight couples, single women and lesbians. So in modern society procreation is not as much of a concern as it was in the past.

 As a matter of fact we have population explosion in many parts and too many orphan/abandoned children. In some parts instead of women (lesbian or straight) bearing more children, it would be better for society if all couples adopted unfortunate children.

I foresee a time when  no humans would be allowed to procreate . Its unfair to the women and they could  exert their rights not to.  With further advances in technology babies would be custom made as and when required... till then the bias is set to remain esp as people do go to great lengths to have their own biological and genetic child.
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Posted: 02 December 2011 at 11:32am | IP Logged
Originally posted by angie.4u

Originally posted by return_to_hades

^^Considering that a lot of lesbian couples do choose to have kids through artificial insemination that is not as much of a concern. Gay men also donate to sperm banks which are used by straight couples, single women and lesbians. So in modern society procreation is not as much of a concern as it was in the past.

 As a matter of fact we have population explosion in many parts and too many orphan/abandoned children. In some parts instead of women (lesbian or straight) bearing more children, it would be better for society if all couples adopted unfortunate children.

I foresee a time when  no humans would be allowed to procreate . Its unfair to the women and they could  exert their rights not to.  With further advances in technology babies would be custom made as and when required... till then the bias is set to remain esp as people do go to great lengths to have their own biological and genetic child.


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Posted: 02 December 2011 at 11:33am | IP Logged
Originally posted by return_to_hades

Originally posted by angie.4u

Originally posted by return_to_hades

^^Considering that a lot of lesbian couples do choose to have kids through artificial insemination that is not as much of a concern. Gay men also donate to sperm banks which are used by straight couples, single women and lesbians. So in modern society procreation is not as much of a concern as it was in the past.

 As a matter of fact we have population explosion in many parts and too many orphan/abandoned children. In some parts instead of women (lesbian or straight) bearing more children, it would be better for society if all couples adopted unfortunate children.

I foresee a time when  no humans would be allowed to procreate . Its unfair to the women and they could  exert their rights not to.  With further advances in technology babies would be custom made as and when required... till then the bias is set to remain esp as people do go to great lengths to have their own biological and genetic child.


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And who or what was that !!
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Posted: 02 December 2011 at 11:36am | IP Logged
A fictional person who invented cloning and baby manufacturing lines in Brave New World - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokanovsky%27s_process


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Posted: 02 December 2011 at 11:51am | IP Logged
Originally posted by return_to_hades

A fictional person who invented cloning and baby manufacturing lines in Brave New World - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokanovsky%27s_process


A highly controlled social world ! Wont be long before people start demanding freedom from such controlled systems . ..

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