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Posted: 23 July 2012 at 1:31am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Rehanism

Heart, leave this debate. I think by now you should have realized that its futile. We tried our best. We gave her all possible logical explanations. But the problem is faith and reason can never co-exist. They can exist only at the expense of each other. When a person has got unreserved faith in the veracity of his/her religious texts, when a person grows up thinking that a certain book is verbatim word of God, every word of it is divine law and everything that contradicts it is Satanic, no amount of logical explanation can possibly help. When this girl posted the myths of Sodom as "evidence" against homosexuality we should have known what we are dealing with and not furthered this debate at all.

boy this is way too much fun! Just read the posts LOL But, yes I agree. :) 


Edited by Heart - 23 July 2012 at 1:39am

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Posted: 23 July 2012 at 4:17am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Heart

Haha LOL Honestly, the best darn thing I have ever read Clap You must really be proud of yourself huh? 
Okay, I am going to burst your little bubble. So sorry! Big smile
Whoever that doctor was, who found it strange is surely not a doctor. LOL 
HIV AIDS, scientists have found, are originated from chimpanzees (and not from gay people.. ROFL) 
Proof? 


It will tell about the history of HIV AIDS. There are several theory about how the virus was passed on from the primates and chimps to humans, most believed is the Africa Polio theory. 
So no, it did not originate in gay people.. ROFL. 

LMAO, gay people can not adopt children? Seriously, you are not from the 3rd century or something, are you? lol 
There are many celebs who have admitted they're gay who are open about their sexuality and some of them have even adopted children. 
Example? Neil Pattrick Harris (he's very popular. He's in the popular television show HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER and he's openly gay) 
Ellen DeGeneres (She's the host of the popular day time show The Ellen Show. Everyone knows that she has faced some of the darkest periods of her life when she admitted that she is gay, but people have accepted her and now everyone around the world loves her. Go on youtube and see her videos! You will know! She's a comedian) 
Elton John (If you don't know who that is, I do not know what to say to you :P ) 
Allan Turing (Seriously, if you don't know him, sorry :P He's considered as the father of computer science and artificial intelligence) 

Full joint adoption by same-sex couples is currently legal in the following countries:

Full joint adoption by same-sex couples is currently legal in the following jurisdictions:


Also
A 2006 poll by the Pew Research Center found a close divide on gay adoption among the United States public, while a 2007 poll by CNN and Opinion Research Corp. said 57% of respondents felt gays should have the right to adopt and 40% said they should not.[18] In the United Kingdom in 2007, 64% of people said they thought gay couples should be allowed to adopt and 32% said they should not. 55% of respondents thought that male couples should be able to adopt and 59% of people thought that lesbian couples should be able to adopt.

So next time you better speak with knowledge! Seriously, take your own advice first!   
I think so too, a wall will definitely be more understanding and less delusional then some people here! 

Oh, I'd also like to add something . Uneducated people say that a male animal mates with a male animal, & just because they do it, we should do it too ! but if that were true, wouldn't we have less animals in this world ?
LOL, which uneducated person says that? Confused Enlighten me LOL Because obviously you speak with all your "knowledge". 

 A donkey cannot mate with a horse, because they cannot produce babies . So, what on earth makes you think that a male guy can mate with a male guy ?! The world has gone crazy really !
What the hell? LOL
What does that even MEAN? 

 People these days must be stupid enough to be comparing humans to animals, right ? & if the whole world were to turn gay, then we'd have less people each day, because man is mortal ! Humans would eventually become extinct ! A donkey cannot mate with a horse, because they cannot produce babies . So, what on earth makes you think that a male guy can mate with a male guy ?! The world has gone crazy really !

@red, @purple: Guess what? You're one of those stupid people who is comparing humans to animals. ROFL ROFL 

 


http://home60515.com/4.html 
 
@pink - I guess you could say that ! I'm actually very proud of myself ! Approve
& ah oh ! he isn't a doctor ? Shocked Then what is he ?
Chimpanzees ? The funniest thing I've ever heard in my life ! ROFL
Look, I understand when you're obsessed with something, you can't hear a word against it ! It's going to take you some time . It's ok honestly, but if you use your brain, you'll be able to tell the difference between right & wrong . Sometimes the wrong feels right & the right feels wrong .
It's really funny how you're providing me links & want me to believe it, but when I've provided you links, without even mentioning religion, God, & "myths", you've denied it . You're really a Hypocrite ! Do you see that ladies & gentlemen ? 
Yes, gays cannot adopt children ! It's not healthy for the kids ! I know you're having a hard time swallowing the ugly truth . Gays have lost all MORAL STANDARDS ! Why should gays even adopt children ? They are gay for a REASON ! They don't want to produce ! Point to be noted, your Honour ! Thumbs Up
Ah oh ! someone hasn't taken biology classes ! Shocked Better make a run for your life kid ! It's never to late to learn these things ! Anyway, I've had a blast with you honestly . Truth be told, it's been proven that gays have a short lifespan . They're going to die in the future . So, it's obviously no point in debating anymore ! It seems like I'm now wasting my knowledge on uneducated people who don't want to understand a thing ! You'll just keep denying it, so there's no point . Plus, you seem to have some kind of mental condition to deny every bit of reason that comes your way . You need help asap !

Peace .


Edited by Aya. - 14 September 2012 at 10:49pm
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Posted: 23 July 2012 at 4:49am | IP Logged
If you want peace, don't you think you should remove the personal remarks and insults you have listed in your post? Like I said earlier lets make this a healthy debate and not about who has learned biology, and calling people uneducated or mental just because they do not agree with you is not done! So I think you should certainly edit your post and then we can make peace! 

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Posted: 23 July 2012 at 8:09am | IP Logged
1) Science
 
Anatomy
 
Hetero: The body structures involved in hetero interactions are desgined to compliment each other
Homo: The body structures involved in homo interactions DO NOT compliment each other.
 
Physiology:
 
Hetero: A physiologic system is there to support hetero interactions i.e. functions are oriented for this.
Homo: The physiologic system is NOT there to support homo interactions.
 
Genetics:
 
Hetero: XX, XY - possible.
Homo: XX,XX or XY,XY - not possible
 
Embryology:
 
Hetero: Possible
Homo: Not possible
 
Reporduction:
 
Hetero: End product possible
Homo: End product not possible. Adoption is possible which in turn is a product of hetero
 
Conclusion: Strictly from science point of view a homo interaction is not supported and is an abnormal action. When we study these structures and their functions they do not support such interactions both in actions and outcome. Now if your definition of science is that if it happens then its science then sure go out there and give a hug to a tree and kiss it and thats supported by science as well lol. 
 
2) History:
 
Hetero: It has a long history of being dominant practice among people of different cultures, ethnicity, race, religion, color, diet etc. It has got nothing to do with abrahamic, ceramic, balsamic.
 
Homo: A history of being an outlier type of behavior which did not get accepted over that long of period and among so many different different categories of people.  Even in religions where it was permitted (i.e. if it really was) it failed to become accepted as normal behavior. 
 
Conclusion: The collective wisdom and practice of many over long period of time just cannot be ridiculed. If homo was such a normal thing then what prevented it from getting accepted?
 
3) Legal
 
Hetero: current default and accepted i.e. marriage
Homo: attempting to be getting accepted as norm
 
4) Statistics:
 
Hetero: overwhelming and therefore normal
Homo: outlier and therefor non-normal
 
5) Romance:
 
 
 
Overall conclusion:
 
Based on science, history, law, stats BUT not romance, it is fair to conclude that homosexuality is an abnormal behavior which is not natural and not normal. This is why it failed to get accepted and this is why it is not common. 
 
The problem is that there is a finding and then there is how we respond to that finding. Here whevener we think about this abnormality (a finding) the words and thoughts (our response) that come into our minds are punishment, looking down at, unfairness, equality, rights etc and that makes us support or oppose an abnormality
 
Now we do not have to look down at people or punish them because they are abnormal. Similarly we do not have to present an abnormality as normal just Because of equality. A person whose eyesight is weak is not a normal person in context of eyesight but we dont punish them. Similarly we are abnormal in many ways but we are not looked down at for that abnormality. In case of homosexuality people look down at it and that then drives the other side crazy who then try to justify it by excuses which dont make sense.
 
I think we should accept this is an abnormal behaviior and then let these people live their life. There should not be attempts for gay marriages etc as it aint a marriage. If a religion says that this is unaccepted behavior then leave it to God and the person and dont try to judge the person.
 
Lets keep things in context as if anything the onus to prove that this is normal is on supporters of homosexuality and not the other way around. 

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Posted: 23 July 2012 at 11:10am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Heart

If you want peace, don't you think you should remove the personal remarks and insults you have listed in your post? Like I said earlier lets make this a healthy debate and not about who has learned biology, and calling people uneducated or mental just because they do not agree with you is not done! So I think you should certainly edit your post and then we can make peace! 

First, I'd like to make it clear that I'm not going to edit my post just to please you .
I didn't call you uneducated/mental because you didn't agree with me, but because when I stated FACTS, you chose to ignore them . So, what does that make you ? Educated or uneducated ?
 
Now, now matter what excuse you give just to start another session of debate with me, I will no longer reply . I've given you my final thoughts in my last post, but I wanted to leave without you thinking I called you uneducated & mental just because you didn't agree with me . Whatever thoughts I posted about you has been from my experience of debating with you over the past few days .

Once again, peace .


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Posted: 25 July 2012 at 4:46am | IP Logged
I think ..you live once ..u have the 
right whom do u want to live with ..

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