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Posted: 07 February 2006 at 10:21pm | IP Logged
i'm very selectively superstitious-choose 2 believe only those things that will turn out 2 b gud 4 me...and even those arnd me..

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Posted: 08 February 2006 at 12:24am | IP Logged
It may be interesting to explain that the word Superstition comes from the Latin Super, above; Stare, to stand. Those who escaped in the old hand-to-hand battles were called super-stites that is, they were standing above the slain. It is therefore a very appropriate word for those primitive beliefs that still stand in the great battle that is being waged by Reason.

Just as a child is always asking why, so primitive man endeavoured to find out the meaning of all the many wonders around him. When he could not explain, he satisfied himself and his children by inventing a fairy tale, and it is these primitive attempts at education that form the Popular Superstitions of the ages, many of which are very vigorous to-day.

Some interesting origins of superstitions:

1. Walking under a ladder

If we look back a few centuries, we find that Justice was originally content with a handy tree for the purpose of removing a malefactor as in the case of many American lynchings. But trees are not found in the streets of a town, so our resourceful ancestors used a ladder. This could be erected against any convenient wall, and in any street the rope was slung over one of the rungs; the offender removed, and all trace of the summary administration of Justice was easily cleared away. As in the case of lynchings, many an innocent man was hanged before trial, and any attempt made by a passing stranger to go under the ladder was resented as an attempt at rescue. All law-abiding citizens made it a rule to keep well away from a ladder when propped against a wall

It's bad luck to walk under a ladder. This came from the early Christian belief that a leaning ladder formed a triangle with the wall and ground. You must never violate the Holy Trinity by walking through a triangle, lest you be considered in league with the devil. (And you all know what good Christians did to people they suspected of being in league with the devil.)

The most logical explanation is that one should avoid walking under something that is most likely to fall and hurt you.

2. Sneezing before a journey

As far as sneezing is concerned, the Indian superstition of considering sneezing as a bad sign before a journey originates from the ancient thug tradition. The thugs considered anyone sneezing before undrtaking an expedition as a bad omen. Maybe it grew from the feeling that perhaps, one of their members is unwell and would be a handicap in their mission.

However, sneezing has other superstitious beliefs across the world. One such is from Scotland where it has been maintained that idiots are incapable of sneezing, and the power to do so has been deemed evidence of the possession of a certain degree of intelligence.

3. Cats crossing your path

In a stroke of feline racism, cats (esecially black) in the path are considered plain unlucky.
But remember, cats are wonderfully independent creatures; they obey no one. Because they are not obedient, in some circles they have a bad reputation - similar to independent women. But what kind of world would it be without cats - or independent women?
In Druid Celtic times, the cat stood for evil. Kindly ladies who looked after these cats were detonated as witches. Black cats have been a supernatural omen since the witch-hunts of the middle ages. This anti-cat fallacy takes colour from the fact that 'black' has dark connotations even today from frantically slathering whitening creams to dyeing our hair golden or burgundy, we are an anti-black nation of a collectively wheatish complexion. Another reason could be that cats drink milk and the 'believers' have reason to suspect cats without transparent digestive tracts. Out black spot, said Lady Macbeth and we never asked Shakespeare if she had a cat called Spot.
But what does this superstition really mean in black and white? a) That the red-green traffic lights are not working and the cats are strategically positioned on roads by espionage agencies to curtail pedestrian movement. b) That there are 'catty' hurdles ahead that a strider needs to be anonymously warned about. c) That God, who granted cats nine lives, uses them as celestial signposts. d) That sinking one's footsteps into feline ones may herald limb amputation for cat or man a bit cumbersome for the latter as the former has four legs.
So the legend paws us in all its prejudiced meow-meowing a black cat bodes bad luck and means that something unfortunate is headed your way. Anything but that the poor cat is just going somewhere.

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Posted: 08 February 2006 at 2:42am | IP Logged
wedding superstition


Groom's family and close male friends rub turmeric paste on his face and chest. It leaves the skin with a golden glow and is supposed to bring good luck and keep evils away

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Posted: 08 February 2006 at 6:07am | IP Logged
Originally posted by dolly

wedding superstition


Groom's family and close male friends rub turmeric paste on his face and chest. It leaves the skin with a golden glow and is supposed to bring good luck and keep evils away


i know thats the most annoying one...other plp are soooo excited to put haldi on bride and groom that they really paint you yellow and then its so darn hard to get rid of that color...looks like dulhan pail hain. LOL

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Posted: 08 February 2006 at 7:16am | IP Logged

Originally posted by sowmyaa

Originally posted by dolly

wedding superstition


Groom's family and close male friends rub turmeric paste on his face and chest. It leaves the skin with a golden glow and is supposed to bring good luck and keep evils away


i know thats the most annoying one...other plp are soooo excited to put haldi on bride and groom that they really paint you yellow and then its so darn hard to get rid of that color...looks like dulhan pail hain. LOL

LOLLOL

I know, it is soooo irritating.I remember about my wedding, everyone stand in line and put that haldi wherever...when I saw this post it reminded me of thatBig smile

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Posted: 08 February 2006 at 9:02am | IP Logged
Originally posted by mad_cap

It may be interesting to explain that the word Superstition comes from the Latin Super, above; Stare, to stand. Those who escaped in the old hand-to-hand battles were called super-stites that is, they were standing above the slain. It is therefore a very appropriate word for those primitive beliefs that still stand in the great battle that is being waged by Reason.

Just as a child is always asking why, so primitive man endeavoured to find out the meaning of all the many wonders around him. When he could not explain, he satisfied himself and his children by inventing a fairy tale, and it is these primitive attempts at education that form the Popular Superstitions of the ages, many of which are very vigorous to-day.

Some interesting origins of superstitions:

1. Walking under a ladder

If we look back a few centuries, we find that Justice was originally content with a handy tree for the purpose of removing a malefactor as in the case of many American lynchings. But trees are not found in the streets of a town, so our resourceful ancestors used a ladder. This could be erected against any convenient wall, and in any street the rope was slung over one of the rungs; the offender removed, and all trace of the summary administration of Justice was easily cleared away. As in the case of lynchings, many an innocent man was hanged before trial, and any attempt made by a passing stranger to go under the ladder was resented as an attempt at rescue. All law-abiding citizens made it a rule to keep well away from a ladder when propped against a wall

It's bad luck to walk under a ladder. This came from the early Christian belief that a leaning ladder formed a triangle with the wall and ground. You must never violate the Holy Trinity by walking through a triangle, lest you be considered in league with the devil. (And you all know what good Christians did to people they suspected of being in league with the devil.)

The most logical explanation is that one should avoid walking under something that is most likely to fall and hurt you.

2. Sneezing before a journey

As far as sneezing is concerned, the Indian superstition of considering sneezing as a bad sign before a journey originates from the ancient thug tradition. The thugs considered anyone sneezing before undrtaking an expedition as a bad omen. Maybe it grew from the feeling that perhaps, one of their members is unwell and would be a handicap in their mission.

However, sneezing has other superstitious beliefs across the world. One such is from Scotland where it has been maintained that idiots are incapable of sneezing, and the power to do so has been deemed evidence of the possession of a certain degree of intelligence.

3. Cats crossing your path

In a stroke of feline racism, cats (esecially black) in the path are considered plain unlucky.
But remember, cats are wonderfully independent creatures; they obey no one. Because they are not obedient, in some circles they have a bad reputation - similar to independent women. But what kind of world would it be without cats - or independent women?
In Druid Celtic times, the cat stood for evil. Kindly ladies who looked after these cats were detonated as witches. Black cats have been a supernatural omen since the witch-hunts of the middle ages. This anti-cat fallacy takes colour from the fact that 'black' has dark connotations even today from frantically slathering whitening creams to dyeing our hair golden or burgundy, we are an anti-black nation of a collectively wheatish complexion. Another reason could be that cats drink milk and the 'believers' have reason to suspect cats without transparent digestive tracts. Out black spot, said Lady Macbeth and we never asked Shakespeare if she had a cat called Spot.
But what does this superstition really mean in black and white? a) That the red-green traffic lights are not working and the cats are strategically positioned on roads by espionage agencies to curtail pedestrian movement. b) That there are 'catty' hurdles ahead that a strider needs to be anonymously warned about. c) That God, who granted cats nine lives, uses them as celestial signposts. d) That sinking one's footsteps into feline ones may herald limb amputation for cat or man a bit cumbersome for the latter as the former has four legs.
So the legend paws us in all its prejudiced meow-meowing a black cat bodes bad luck and means that something unfortunate is headed your way. Anything but that the poor cat is just going somewhere.


Very interesting !!! It makes sense that not only superstitions but traditions had some sort of logic or reason that was acceptable centuries ago !! But they may not hold sense now , but we contionue following them !!Tongue

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Posted: 08 February 2006 at 2:02pm | IP Logged
interesting stuff!
i can't not be superstitious even if I tried because my mom and grandmother would never allow it! LOL

another wedding related one: has anyone heard about this one?... you should not eat straight out of a pot because, otherwise, it'll rain on your wedding day! LOL hey someone should try that in the sahara desert!

Do you guys think that sometimes its hard to tell what is tradition/culture and what is superstition?

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Posted: 08 February 2006 at 2:06pm | IP Logged

Originally posted by renu_1919

interesting stuff!
i can't not be superstitious even if I tried because my mom and grandmother would never allow it! LOL

another wedding related one: has anyone heard about this one?... you should not eat straight out of a pot because, otherwise, it'll rain on your wedding day! LOL hey someone should try that in the sahara desert!

Do you guys think that sometimes its hard to tell what is tradition/culture and what is superstition?

yaa I heard of that one.LOL

Are you punjabi by any chance.

I used to eat malaii ( u kniow after the milk has been boiled and all) from the container and mY mom used to say I should not do that.LOL

 

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