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Posted: 14 October 2011 at 9:51am | IP Logged

Wow. Some of you don't even seem to like movies. Seems like you want moo-vies. Tongue

 

Avatar is definitely is not groundbreaking in terms of acting or storyline. What made Avatar such a big deal was its trailblazing technology. Avatar ushered in an era in filmmaking akin to George Lucas and Lucas Films with Star Wars and John Lasseter and Pixar with Toy Story – they completely redefined technology, storyboarding and the way special effects are imagined and executed. Perhaps to the ordinary audience it is no big deal and the hype around it annoying, but for a lot of techno film geeks this is it.

 

Personally for me the storyline and the message it portrayed really worked and the imagination and portrayal of Pandora really touched my utopian fantasies – that perfect blend of sci-fi and Disney princess.

 

Slumdog Millionaire would probably in most situations be ordinary, especially in India where similar themes and stories have been oft repeated. However, if you look at it from the perspective of the western world, you can see why it was so acclaimed. Firstly, for the American audience it caters to the belief that fate, chance and luck can make a difference for the lower rungs of the American dream. Secondly, there was the novelty factor. Americans and British have an affinity for stories and experiences from foreign places and cultures. There is also a curiosity factor associated with the Asian slums and the favelas of Latin America, the western world usually does not understand life in such abject poverty. Finally, there is the fact that despite a storyline revolving around difficult and trying lives, the film overall was a happy feel good film. Unlike the high browed exclusive intellectual tendency of the usual hard hitting movies, this flick had something enjoyable and relatable for the masses, the small town folk, the steel town workers, blue collar workers as well as varying minorities. Hence you have a less than ordinary film like Slumdog Millionaire that becomes an unlikely blockbuster and award winner.

 

I really believe that movies, like music, arts and books are very subjective and what is good and enjoyable really depends on the viewer. Of course there is an objective standard of acting, scripting, direction and many popular movies would actually fall under the category of 'bad' movies because the overall work is sloppy. However, they end up being 'good' and 'blockbusters' because despite the bad acting, poor story and lack of technical mastery it caters to something the audience demands. Some people crave the Mega Shark vs. Giant Octopus, some people enjoy blood sputtering, organs flying, gory zombie action and some people think brain eating zombies are actually funny. Some people want to go through two boxes of Kleenex every time they watch a movie and some people want to roll on the floor laughing. Some people like loud noises, car chases, explosions and some people like realism, simple stories about ordinary people. Critically speaking, yes an old film noir movie maybe a much better movies and superior than a lot of other movies. But that does not make Zombieland or Sucker Punch or Kick Ass any less awesome. In fact some acclaimed films are good, and just plain good, but the fact is that some bad films are not simply bad they are AWESOME BAD!!!!!!

 

I wonder if the Japanese also complain as much "Gojira! Jisatsu! Bishonen! shoshuku gouran! Gojira, Jisatsu! Bishonen! Shoshuku gouran! That same crap over and over again!!" Or if the Spanish speaking world has had it with their "Tele novellas"

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'Avatar' was awesome...'Sucker Punch' was not...LOL
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Posted: 14 October 2011 at 10:29am | IP Logged
Hahah, I love how the people that once defended Slumdog Millionaire are criticizing it and the ones who criticized it are now defending it - and here we complete another circle of life on DM today. Tongue

Slumdog Millionaire worked outside of India or the subcontinent in general because it was targeted at a foreign audience who hasn't seen something like this before. If this movie was made by Bollywood for a typical desi audience, it would not have worked because it's would have that been there-seen that feel to it.

Speaking of Hollywood in general - if you don't like movies like Slumdog Millionaire, or Avatar or whatever, you can watch movies in other genres that are completely different. In Bollywood, the only genres available are: Sallu's "blockbusters", KJo's mushy-gushy "family" movies, mindless comedies, crappy "romantic" movies that almost always flop, one Aamir Khan movie per year that will be good regardless of what genre it's in (minus Ghajini!!), and than an occasional good movie here and there that takes us by surprise. That's about it.

Having said that, I am definitely craving one of KJo's mushy gushy bollywood movies these days. LOL

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Posted: 14 October 2011 at 10:29am | IP Logged
Originally posted by blue-ice

'Avatar' was awesome...'Sucker Punch' was not...LOL


You are right. Sucker Punch was DOUBLE AWESOME! Want to see TRIPLE AWESOME, checkout Bitchslap (Yes it is a movie as well) LOL.


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Posted: 14 October 2011 at 10:34am | IP Logged

Ajnu, I hope you don't count me as one of the Slumdog critics? I just wrote a parody on it.

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Scenes of poverty and squalour may appear romantic to Westerners and to our snooty elite but for us ordinary Indians they are nothing new. They are an everyday reality. However, one wonders what sort of mind can find such images aesthetically pleasing. Party-hopping socialites (for example, Shobhaa De after all her bombast of "enough is enough" after the Mumbai attack, went and watched a pirated copy!) who are distanced from such reality may find this film an "eye-opener" but for us it is poverty-po*n. It is slum-tourism. Leaving that aside, I have other objections to the film.

1) The director seems to relish showing violence. Some of it (like the police-torture) is quite needless. And why was the boy arrested in the first place? On what charge? Was it realistic?

2) How can a boy growing up in slums speak such accented English? Even if one assumes that the language he actually uses to communicate with the game-show host and the police officer is Hindi (granting the director the creative license to use a language better suited for international audiences), there are 2 instances where it is stretched too far: 
(a) when the boy becomes a 'guide' for foreign tourists at the Taj Mahal & 
(b) when he becomes a substitute-operator at the call-centre.

3) When the boy uses his 'lifeline' during the game-show, his friend discovers that she has forgotten her mobile and has to run back for it. This is plain Bollywood masala! Did the director HAVE to make it so melodramatic?

4) How did the boy know who invented the revolver just by watching his brother use it? How does his friend know about Benjamin Franklin?

5) After winning the game-show, the boy sits on the railway platform and nobody recognizes him! Considering the popularity of the show, is that realistic?

6) Two glaring omissions: To get invited to the show one has to answer several GK questions over phone or Internet. Even after making it to the show, a contestant can reach the hot-seat only after qualifying through "fastest finger first". All this is conveniently forgotten in the film. And of course the greatest flaw in the storyline: programmes like 'Kaun Banega Crorepati' and 'Who Wants To Be A Millionaire' are not telecast live. As a result the entire structure of the film becomes unrealistic. For a film that boasts of being realistic such a flaw cannot be overlooked.

Anyone else wants to say this is a g-r-e-a-t film despite all these flaws ?


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Thanks. But, what's DM ? 


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