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Originally posted by: solembaum

Ok... My two cents... I really think Khushi was just doing her job of making Lavanya a sanskaari 'bahu' ... bahu being the operative word... and she actually spoke to Lavanya about the shaadi or her opinion about the dangers of 'living -in' after their equation changed ... It is true that that has caused an inconvenience to ASR... by rocking the placid waters of the useless arrangement that he was having with La... But, like someone else pointed out in another post, ASR and Lavanya are still free to make their own decisions and judgments... So if Lavanya was convinced by Khushi's explanations and now wants different things from the relationship, it is still something that ASR and La needs to discuss right? Not ASR and Khushi? While he might be angry about Khushi's opinions-  what exactly is he hoping to gain from cornering Khushi or shouting at Khushi? and if La believes in shaadi now he owes her an explanation as to why he doesn't want to marry or whether it is La as a person that he has issues with etc... He cannot hope to be a dictator in a relationship also right? So I for one do not believe that Khushi has done anything she needs to feel bad about ... Khushi is not keeping a gun to his head and saying you marry Lavanya... ASR has always been his own person and he will continue to be his own person... and no one including his Di can force him to marry against his will... so there is nothing that has really gone very wrong with his life except that may be Lavanya has realised that live-in is not what she wants and she wants the relationship to be formalised... Of course it is inconvenient to ASR... But I never felt that he set much store by that relationship except as a way of thumping his nose at Nani &co... But La's office performance was not needed especially the explanation part while the clients were around... 

Now coming to Khushi... I understand why she did what she did with the phone... she probably didn't want an awkward situation which she cannot explain to her parents... and if they feel she is not treated right or ask her to stop going and they will somehow manage etc it would become another source of tension for everyone... But she should have taken the opportunity presented by Arnav when he asked what she thought she was doing on the phone... But I still do not feel so totally horrible about her even now... While she finally does stand up and speak up and all that , her initial reactions have always been to avoid the situation especially when it comes to Arnav... In spite of the Chai fiasco she is still afraid of him... Not because she thinks she has done something wrong... But because she is scared of his anger and her foot in mouth syndrome whenever she deals with him... and may be somewhere she doesn't know how to deal with him and the momentary confusions that he creates in her... But yeah she should have learned by now that when she avoids him it blows up pretty badly at some other time... and the fainting part was a total no-no for me... although even now I wouldn't say she is so bad that she deserves to be married to Shyam or she deserves whatever ASR throws at her... I am fine with his anger as long as he doesn't again go to aukaad and haisiyat... he definitely can call her immature and he can also tell her that she should have had the guts to defend her position... But no name calling and no alluding to how she is beneath his station in life... Then I have no issues with ASR taking KKG to task... Let them have an unpleasant conversation or an argument.. let him say she didn't measure up to his standards... all that is fine... But I don't think even this warrants an aukaad and haisiyat lecture... 

Originally posted by: solembaum

Ok... My two cents... I really think Khushi was just doing her job of making Lavanya a sanskaari 'bahu' ... bahu being the operative word... and she actually spoke to Lavanya about the shaadi or her opinion about the dangers of 'living -in' after their equation changed ... It is true that that has caused an inconvenience to ASR... by rocking the placid waters of the useless arrangement that he was having with La... But, like someone else pointed out in another post, ASR and Lavanya are still free to make their own decisions and judgments... So if Lavanya was convinced by Khushi's explanations and now wants different things from the relationship, it is still something that ASR and La needs to discuss right? Not ASR and Khushi? While he might be angry about Khushi's opinions-  what exactly is he hoping to gain from cornering Khushi or shouting at Khushi? and if La believes in shaadi now he owes her an explanation as to why he doesn't want to marry or whether it is La as a person that he has issues with etc... He cannot hope to be a dictator in a relationship also right? So I for one do not believe that Khushi has done anything she needs to feel bad about ... Khushi is not keeping a gun to his head and saying you marry Lavanya... ASR has always been his own person and he will continue to be his own person... and no one including his Di can force him to marry against his will... so there is nothing that has really gone very wrong with his life except that may be Lavanya has realised that live-in is not what she wants and she wants the relationship to be formalised... Of course it is inconvenient to ASR... But I never felt that he set much store by that relationship except as a way of thumping his nose at Nani &co... But La's office performance was not needed especially the explanation part while the clients were around... 

Now coming to Khushi... I understand why she did what she did with the phone... she probably didn't want an awkward situation which she cannot explain to her parents... and if they feel she is not treated right or ask her to stop going and they will somehow manage etc it would become another source of tension for everyone... But she should have taken the opportunity presented by Arnav when he asked what she thought she was doing on the phone... But I still do not feel so totally horrible about her even now... While she finally does stand up and speak up and all that , her initial reactions have always been to avoid the situation especially when it comes to Arnav... In spite of the Chai fiasco she is still afraid of him... Not because she thinks she has done something wrong... But because she is scared of his anger and her foot in mouth syndrome whenever she deals with him... and may be somewhere she doesn't know how to deal with him and the momentary confusions that he creates in her... But yeah she should have learned by now that when she avoids him it blows up pretty badly at some other time... and the fainting part was a total no-no for me... although even now I wouldn't say she is so bad that she deserves to be married to Shyam or she deserves whatever ASR throws at her... I am fine with his anger as long as he doesn't again go to aukaad and haisiyat... he definitely can call her immature and he can also tell her that she should have had the guts to defend her position... But no name calling and no alluding to how she is beneath his station in life... Then I have no issues with ASR taking KKG to task... Let them have an unpleasant conversation or an argument.. let him say she didn't measure up to his standards... all that is fine... But I don't think even this warrants an aukaad and haisiyat lecture... 

Originally posted by: solembaum

Ok... My two cents... I really think Khushi was just doing her job of making Lavanya a sanskaari 'bahu' ... bahu being the operative word... and she actually spoke to Lavanya about the shaadi or her opinion about the dangers of 'living -in' after their equation changed ... It is true that that has caused an inconvenience to ASR... by rocking the placid waters of the useless arrangement that he was having with La... But, like someone else pointed out in another post, ASR and Lavanya are still free to make their own decisions and judgments... So if Lavanya was convinced by Khushi's explanations and now wants different things from the relationship, it is still something that ASR and La needs to discuss right? Not ASR and Khushi? While he might be angry about Khushi's opinions-  what exactly is he hoping to gain from cornering Khushi or shouting at Khushi?

First off, thanks so much for responding with your two cents, although I am sure it is worth a lot more!!  @bold - I don't think that ASR wants to discuss the relationship between he and La with Khushi, what he wants is for Khushi to stop talking about their relationship or their lack of one - just as he had mentioned in the car that night to her.  It is his life, he doesn't need her to come and plant seeds in La's mind.

and if La believes in shaadi now he owes her an explanation as to why he doesn't want to marry or whether it is La as a person that he has issues with etc... He cannot hope to be a dictator in a relationship also right? So I for one do not believe that Khushi has done anything she needs to feel bad about ... Khushi is not keeping a gun to his head and saying you marry Lavanya... ASR has always been his own person and he will continue to be his own person... and no one including his Di can force him to marry against his will... so there is nothing that has really gone very wrong with his life except that may be Lavanya has realised that live-in is not what she wants and she wants the relationship to be formalised... Of course it is inconvenient to ASR... But I never felt that he set much store by that relationship except as a way of thumping his nose at Nani &co... But La's office performance was not needed especially the explanation part while the clients were around... 

Yes, I agree.  I feel he is only doing live in to spite his Nani.

Now coming to Khushi... I understand why she did what she did with the phone... she probably didn't want an awkward situation which she cannot explain to her parents... and if they feel she is not treated right or ask her to stop going and they will somehow manage etc it would become another source of tension for everyone... But she should have taken the opportunity presented by Arnav when he asked what she thought she was doing on the phone... But I still do not feel so totally horrible about her even now... While she finally does stand up and speak up and all that , her initial reactions have always been to avoid the situation especially when it comes to Arnav... In spite of the Chai fiasco she is still afraid of him... Not because she thinks she has done something wrong... But because she is scared of his anger and her foot in mouth syndrome whenever she deals with him... and may be somewhere she doesn't know how to deal with him and the momentary confusions that he creates in her... But yeah she should have learned by now that when she avoids him it blows up pretty badly at some other time... and the fainting part was a total no-no for me... although even now I wouldn't say she is so bad that she deserves to be married to Shyam or she deserves whatever ASR throws at her... I am fine with his anger as long as he doesn't again go to aukaad and haisiyat... he definitely can call her immature and he can also tell her that she should have had the guts to defend her position... But no name calling and no alluding to how she is beneath his station in life... Then I have no issues with ASR taking KKG to task... Let them have an unpleasant conversation or an argument.. let him say she didn't measure up to his standards... all that is fine... But I don't think even this warrants an aukaad and haisiyat lecture...