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Posted: 16 September 2011 at 6:16am | IP Logged
Originally posted by MadameX

Truthfully, I haven't been watching the episodes and only been reading the updates for several weeks now thus so far I had been only going by the general consenus of the forum. So I don't know exactly to what degree Suhana's acting seems unbearable but from the written updates that I've been reading, it seems a lot as if the script for Suhana the character has been pretty bad. I mean, she's basically told to be an enthusiastic psycho obsessed girl whenever something captures her interest greatly (ie, Khushi, Deepak, Ishaan, etc). So the CVs are butchering the characterisation of Suhana for the most part. Other than that, I wish Ragini through her own interpretation and acting can tone down the dumbness she is portraying...enthusiasm can be shown in many different ways. But I don't know...maybe the directors are happy with her portrayal of Suhana or it's exactly what they wanted...whatever it is, it's a bit hard to decide where the blame if any should be laid. So far, it seems as if it's more the fault of the script and direction of it.
 
Hope this makes sense...if not, just tell me. I'll try to reword it again. LOL
 
It does make sense. You know at 1st the wiritng was great, may be because they followed OBS pretty much to the T, but now there is no consistency in her character. Somedays you get really good scenes and lovely acting and other days she's back to being silly again! Yesterday she was good in the emotional parts but then the very last scene was spoilt by the antics. Why did the CV's do that?That's a flaw in their writing and the direction, not the performers.


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Posted: 16 September 2011 at 6:26am | IP Logged
Originally posted by mjtruelegend

Originally posted by MadameX

Truthfully, I haven't been watching the episodes and only been reading the updates for several weeks now thus so far I had been only going by the general consenus of the forum. So I don't know exactly to what degree Suhana's acting seems unbearable but from the written updates that I've been reading, it seems a lot as if the script for Suhana the character has been pretty bad. I mean, she's basically told to be an enthusiastic psycho obsessed girl whenever something captures her interest greatly (ie, Khushi, Deepak, Ishaan, etc). So the CVs are butchering the characterisation of Suhana for the most part. Other than that, I wish Ragini through her own interpretation and acting can tone down the dumbness she is portraying...enthusiasm can be shown in many different ways. But I don't know...maybe the directors are happy with her portrayal of Suhana or it's exactly what they wanted...whatever it is, it's a bit hard to decide where the blame if any should be laid. So far, it seems as if it's more the fault of the script and direction of it.
 
Hope this makes sense...if not, just tell me. I'll try to reword it again. LOL
 
It does make sense. You know at 1st the wiritng was great, may be because they followed OBS pretty much to the T, but now there is no consistency in her character. Somedays you get really good scenes and lovely acting and other days she's back to being silly again! Yesterday she was good in the emotional parts but then the very last scene was spoilt by thea antics. Why did the CV's do that?That's a flaw in their writing and the direction, not the performers.
 
It could be this or it could be as Tejesh said. Again, I don't know where the blame should be laid. LOL

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Posted: 16 September 2011 at 6:38am | IP Logged
Originally posted by abhi786

Sheemu.. For me Ragini is only one actress now who can potraying suhana character so well, no one could do that.. YES I fully agree with that!

When SGP started, the story is about Suhana journey and growth and changes in her character.. That time Ragini just lived as Suhana.. Even though suhana is not perfect.. people liked her.. It's because a lot of girls go through very similar situations of "adjusting to your new family and her character was very relatable and very normal. I know 2 gilrs who are like her.

Even in S**A track also, she was good in potraying suhana's pain. When she 1st tim know that she got tumor. that scene she is excellent with Jay.. Later in anmesia track also Ragini was good..yes she was, it's gone downhill since then!

But now it's been 1 month to 3 weeks.. kushi track started...The writing has so FLAWS.. today suhana says she bought the child hre disha, and she is the mom.. But the next day they show, suhana trying to tell kushi call her mom or trying to be kushi's mom..It doesn't make sense does it? There is no continuity!

Viwers got confused.. what really suhana has in her mind... It's directorial and writing fault.. What there now for Ragini to perform.. in kushi track, she is one among the chichura gang.. Nothing is there to perform, not a single good dialogues for her...So true, I wish she could be at her Dad's place, she's much better there as a Bajpaye.

Even though kushi track is not finished, later also BM-BP Inder has scope to perform.. but where is Suhana.. how can she perform, when there is not characterisation..I think CVS stop writing the characterisation of Sushaan.. Nothing is there for them to perform now a days.. I am so bored, as CVS wasting the leads characters Ragini and Jay..It's a shame that they have ruined 2 of them most lovable characters and they are still continuing in doing so..

I feel somewhere Ragini is feeling bad, nothing is there for her to perform, she is there one among the chichura gang and just enjoying with kushi.. Just like previous disha felt, may be ragini is also feeling the same.. But Ragini can't complain and talk about her characterisation, as till anmesia track, her character is well.. Exactly my point! Lead actors hands are tied because of whatever reasons there may be. It's easier for others leave, the lead cannot leave so easily.

I agree SGP is a family serial, but one has to agree that SGP has got popular because of sushaan track and family track.. Sushaan track is so different people loved them .. Now what CVS are giving them.. No good scenes, dialogues.. just like showpiece they are there in the show...Very TRUE

I am sad that CVS are killing that lovable suhana, which they made.. and making her caracterisation DUMB these days...
You're sad? CryIt makes me want to cry how they've killed my most beloved charcter.

I just want atleast now CVS give meaningful Sushaan track.. They can show BP-BM track as main plot, but show sushaan track as sub-plot.. So that Ragini and Jay  can potray and show their talent..Amen to that!
 
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Posted: 16 September 2011 at 7:31am | IP Logged
Originally posted by lovable_ragzfan

As far as I have undrstd... Ragini's potrayal of the character 'suhana' is according to the CV's writing..
Ragini as an actor has to just potray suhana through her expressions, other than that she doesn't have a right to say in the script/writing.Wink
 Its only Ragini who is able to potray 'suhana' upto the mark.. if not her than there's no one who can do that.Smile.
I agree on the point that my fav. character 'suhana' is changed from a very innocent somewhat sensible girl into a'dumb' who's always behind one or the other member of the family at a time..(Here I mean extraaa possesiveness)
It's absolutely Cv's fault..
 
Am sure that given a solid & meaningful track/dialogues Ragini  will have scope to prove her talent!!Smile
 
Yes that is what she needs a meaningful track which brings back the original Suhana whom I adore to bits. Maybe in today's or next week's episode will mark a new beginning for both Ishaan/Suhana's characters (due to Ishaan getting a job transfer) because of they really have not grown much since BT track and I am really looking foward to seeing some maturity in both!

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Posted: 16 September 2011 at 7:47am | IP Logged
Sheemu.. I have seen Ragini's journey as an actress.. I loved her as Ginni, Bharathi,and now Suhana ... For me she is the Best as Bharathi and Suhana ... No one can be best as Barathi and Suhana

For me no one can do better as Ragini did for Suhana ..She was excellent and  carried out very well in comedy, emotional and sad scenes..

I can't see someone replacing Supriyaji as BM or Dadaji, Ishaan, KK or Alok or Inder .. For me the actors playing these characters are Apt.. If replacement happens also, I can't feel the same ...

It's purely my personal view.. Just like the phrase " Beauty lies in the eyes of beholder " For me Ragini is the best as Suhana..


Waiting for New Sushaan track, where may be Ragini gets good scenes to perform..


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Posted: 16 September 2011 at 7:54am | IP Logged
Originally posted by abhi786


It's purely my personal view.. Just like the phrase " Beauty lies in the eyes of beholder " For me Ragini is the best as Suhana..



I respect your personal view but drawing a logical reasoning to u'r argument I would like to state that beauty definitely lies in the eyes of the beholder but this is applicable only for the things the beholder has seen. And not for the things which he is yet to see.

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Posted: 16 September 2011 at 8:10am | IP Logged
Originally posted by abhi786

Sheemu.. I have seen Ragini's journey as an actress.. I loved her as Ginni, Bharathi,and now Suhana ... For me she is the Best as Bharathi and Suhana ... No one can be best as Barathi and Suhana

For me no one can do better as Ragini did for Suhana ..She was excellent and  carried out very well in comedy, emotional and sad scenes..

I can't see someone replacing Supriyaji as BM or Dadaji, Ishaan, KK or Alok or Inder .. For me the actors playing these characters are Apt.. If replacement happens also, I can't feel the same ...

It's purely my personal view.. Just like the phrase " Beauty lies in the eyes of beholder " For me Ragini is the best as Suhana..


Waiting for New Sushaan track, where may be Ragini gets good scenes to perform..
 
Again, I agree with every point you've made...Not sure how they'll handle the new track as the past records are not so great!
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Posted: 16 September 2011 at 11:31am | IP Logged
Originally posted by tejeshec

Agree with Nets on the fault thingy. Viewers rate the performance of artists as good/bad/ugly. Some artists are good from the beginning they are masters of their craft, some are average to begin with but in course of time learn the craft and turn good but some can never become good how much ever they try. Such is art. You can't guarantee that everyone will be able to master the form. So its no one's fault. You have it in you or you don't thats it. It is God's gift.

If the foundation is self is not strong enough then no artist in the world can resurrect it.

Now coming to rating Ragini as an artist based on my interpretation of good/bad/ugly I have always tried to remove the script/direction from my judging criteria. But whenever I used to criticize the loopholes in script/direction/characterization it was always the character Suhana and not Ragini.

Glad to know that, the actors portray and try to convey what's written for them. As I have said before, transparent screenplay will allow oodles of opportunity for any artist perform well, some better than others.


Having said that now when I sitback to give my opinion on Ragini's acting abilities I would say she was good in the beginning in few sequences and currently I don't find it that good, its plain average. This doesn't mean that her acting prowess has gone down. It only means that she stood out in scenes which we can say she is good/comfortable at like scenes which were heavy on emotion, comedy etc. Also in the early phase the focus and story was completely on her.

But currently the demand and situation is different. She is no more the central figure. And according to me she needs to improve by being more of a team player and should tone down a bit.    


It's not about being a central figure or main lead, it's about the quality of characterisation. No matter how big or small the role is, the writing should remain consistent and true to the character. Writing has flaws so therefore one cannot perform as the way they used to.

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