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Rehanism IF-Dazzler

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Posted: 20 February 2012 at 6:11am | IP Logged
Err...Sorry to interrupt..But in either case it won't be 'racist' for sure..Neither Muslims are a race nor Hindus and nor are atheists..Bigotry might be a more appropriate termEmbarrassed

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return_to_hades IF-Sizzlerz

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Posted: 20 February 2012 at 7:45am | IP Logged
Originally posted by God.

Originally posted by --P.K.LeLe--

,your tone was somewhat like you insulted her . i know that ignorant word is appropriate to use for who not a bit having knowledge regarding things have been asked to them..i noticed that she insulted only that entire group who don't have a bit of trust in God .. according to me there is nothing offensive in her post that hurt anybody's feeling somehow .. of course you would be considered racist just because to mention Musalman/Muslim hater in your post . let me make you aware of the fact that atheist can be any of Hindi , Muslim,Christian,Sikh but in your post you Specially mentioned only Muslim. ... As far as i know that criticizing bad things everybody has a right but criticizing good things One will have to think a lot before he/she does that...

oh wow.. just wow... so it's ok to say baghayrat bhatkay laanat towards atheists, but if you say that about muslims, christians or any other religious group, then that is "racist".. talk about double standards!

Let me educate you on what an atheist is, an atheist is someone who doesn't believe in God, so Hindus, Sikhs, Muslims, Christians are NOT atheists.  When you say that atheists are bayghairat, bhatkay hue, laanat, you have just insulted a whole group of people, you have just singled out a group who do not believe in god, it's exactly the same if someone were to single out muslims, chrisitians or anyone else.

If it's "racist" to say that about muslims, then it's also equally "racist" to say that about atheists, you don't get special priviledges just because you believe in some god.

Just another minor correction God (in addition to what Rehan said), some Hindus can be atheists if they subscribe to Nastik philosophies.

Otherwise completely agree with what you said. It is sheer double standards and hypocrisy to think that it is OK to throw derogatory terms towards one group of people but not the others. Whether it is Muslims deriding atheists, atheists deriding Christians, Christians deriding pagans or whatever, it is wrong and unbecoming. Such behavior only reflects fanaticism and an inability to discuss in civil discussions and debates about one's beliefs.

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souro Moderator

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Posted: 20 February 2012 at 11:03am | IP Logged
@ P.K.LeLe - Tanya.91 did insult a whole group of people and she was wrong in doing that. And in justifying her act and supporting her, you are continuing to insult that group of people and you are equally guilty as Tanya.91.
Beyond_the_Veil IF-Sizzlerz

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Posted: 20 February 2012 at 11:38am | IP Logged

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Summer3 IF-Stunnerz

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Posted: 20 February 2012 at 4:41pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Crixus

No I don't believe in God. I am also bhatkay, laanat, baigarait.Ermm

Yes I do not blame you.
If God hides then it is His own fault.LOL
By broad definition the Devil is also God.
God exists because men believe.
Buddha never spoke of God nor did Nisargadatta Maharaj. Ramana Maharishi only said find out "who am I". But both the latter two had deep devotion and Maharaj prayed to his Guru eventhough he was fully realized. Buddha was full of compassion and love.
Having compassion and love no other God is needed.
Buddha died eating poisoned meat offered to him, but I guess even great souls need to find an excuse to exit.

There are two at the start. The Universal Soul and the ego. Eradicating the second only the first remains but then it is more easily said then done. If the second is self disciplined the first may be ignored; if not it should at least abide by the law of the country least it get into trouble.

Edited by Summer3 - 20 February 2012 at 5:41pm

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Rehanism IF-Dazzler

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Posted: 21 February 2012 at 10:27am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Beyond_the_Veil

Originally posted by Rehanism

Oh no! Not the stammering goat again!! Last time I heard him say that wishing Merry Christmas would take you to hell and before that he suggested that 9 year old kids are fit for sex...I wonder how much he bribed to pass MBBS..I have hardly seen a more perfect combination of pseudo-intellectualism, shameless lying and sugar-coated bigotry...I would any day prefer Anjem Chaudhary..That guy might sound more menacing and fanatical, but atleast he's honest about his beliefs and intentions!

If listening to this guy didn't make my blood pressure go up, I sure as hell would try watching that video...but thanks, I will pass on it.
I know it's sheer intolerance from my side to not give opposing viewpoint - no matter how misogynist and regressive - a chance, but this guy really gives me bad creeps. I have never had such qualms with any other religious or non-religious speakers. I don't know what it is that makes my hair crawl...I do find a lot of his viewpoints regressive, misogynist, homophobic, and sometimes just plain laughable. He is very smart though.

PS. I just realized I owe King-Anu a response in this very thread. Have totally forgotten about it.

I shouldn't have called him "stammering goat". Its not right to ridicule anyone's looks, features or speaking style, whosoever it might be..I apologize. But for the rest, I stick to my statement.

PS : Subho Matri-bhasha DiboshTongue

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Summer3 IF-Stunnerz

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Posted: 21 February 2012 at 11:50am | IP Logged
You are both great guys. Keep it up.
Labib is always questioning everything and perhaps could be on the verge of a major revelation.
Rehan has his mind and soul completely fixed on the objective.
Let us see who gets there first.LOL
Summer3 IF-Stunnerz

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Posted: 22 February 2012 at 3:32am | IP Logged
Before advancing to God we can first consider what we are.
Presently most of us only feel ourselves to be the body and mind. Intellectually we believe we are pure energy and everything in creation (including the Body/MInd Complex) is animated by the same energy.
The mind conditions and limits us so the mind has to be destroyed , ie we have to go beyond it.
 We are free and think we are bound.
Mantras, prayers, philosophy, enquiry etc are all useful tools in overcoming this malady.

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