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Originally posted by Summer3

Do you believe there is a God ?

I believe infinity of Self (Atman) - an impersonal state of Brahman.

Do you think perhaps it is man who made God and not the other way round ?

I think its both because Brahman and Self are related in the same way as mass and energy. However if you speak of Personal Gods, angels, messengers, self-proclaimed incarnates etc etc. then its man's perception.

Or perhaps we are all characters in a Dream and should wake up the guy who is having all these weird dreams.

That is right. The universe that we perceive in terms of time and space is relativistic. Its not absolute. Advaitas and Shramanas call it Maya. The absolute reality is conscious self or Brahman.

We have the old school of traditional beliefs and the modern way of rationalizing and understanding how things function. In Duality there is a "God" but this "God" disappears in Monoism.

Duality is in nature - as in wave particle duality. Both wave and particle are dual aspects of the same existence. So are Brahman and Atman. Brahman cloaked in Avidya is Atman and Atman removing the cloak of Avidya is Brahman. This is what the ancient Upanishads and the Buddhists said. It is the modern religions which give too much importance to Personal Gods and prophets and claim that man is a bond servant and some personal God is master.

So an "Atheist" who believes in himself is much more closer to the Truth.

Self-faith is the highest faith. Because the Self or Atman is the only thing which is Noumea. Other Gods, books, religions, dogmas etc are perceptions of the sub-conscious mind of an individual and subjected to change. He's not an atheist who doesn't believe in God or Gods. He's an atheist who doesn't believe in himself.

It is better to believe in something rather than nothing ( I don't mean the Nirvana nothingness). No matter what humanity has to be respected.

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Well said Rehan.
Although Brahman cannot be known by the mind and the senses yet He can be experienced. In personalizing God we can have some sort of a relationship with Him but we also tend to limit Him. Initially some form or symbol is useful.
The same mind that binds us also liberates us it seems, must be the buddhi which gives us greater insight.
Modern religions should emphasis on God's universal aspect but tendency for humans is to form their own sub groups and divisions.
Harmony will return to the world in time as awareness grows. Emotions and feelings are different mental states and our thinking can be corrected.

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Posted: 16 September 2011 at 6:33pm | IP Logged

you need a cushion to fall on, a persona to blame on, and savior to believe on. and god fulfills all three. So yes I believe in god!

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Originally posted by namrata1111

Originally posted by Summer3

Thanks Namrata ji.

I love the story of the Taj Mahal but I hat the King for cutting off the architect's hands.

He truly deserves punishment for that.

ppl r obssesded with the fictional love story of mumtaz n shah jahan so they r not able to see the truth..

taj mahal was bulit long before shah jahan was born..he never built taj mahal.

shah jahan just captured taj mahal forecefully from rajput king jai singh for the burial of thisfamilymembers..

he removed the idol of shiv from there n buried his family members there.

tht time it was known as tejo mahalay.it was an anceint shiv temple palace..

once u enter taj mahal, u will seeseveralhindu symbols associated with lord shiva..

I see interesting. Then why cut off the architects' hands? No wonder people hate royalties. Mosques, Churches or Temples do not matter so much as over time religions keep changing. Important for people to have a choice.

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Posted: 16 September 2011 at 11:23pm | IP Logged

Originally posted by namrata1111

cutting of hands is also fictional like the fictional love story of shah jahan mumtaz..there is not written proof of such issue in books of foreing travellrs who stayed in the mughal palace during shah jahan's era..

but there is written proof tht was a hindu temple palace...was was captured forcefully bu shah jahan for burial of this family members..

these travelers say tht taj mahal was bulit long before shah jahan was born..

taj mahal is also one of the thousands famous temples which was captured forcefully by mughals n they removed hindu idols n named it as mosques..

I don't care if Tajmahal was a temple or not...Tajmahal is the pride of India and its a FACTand it should always remain that way..

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Originally posted by blue-ice

I don't care if Tajmahal was a temple or not...Tajmahal is the pride of India and its a FACTand it should always remain that way..

Are you buying the conspiracy theories? Shocked

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