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Posted: 15 September 2011 at 10:28am | IP Logged
Originally posted by namrata1111

i have spent 20 yrs of my life in research of ancient history of world..i have lived in diff parts of this world fro research

History repeats itself, but here we have historians repeat themselves. Tongue LOL

I'm curious what your profession is are you a researcher, archaeologist, professor or a recreational historian. Where and how did you study history and what ancient civilizations have you studied, which parts of the world?

Originally posted by namrata1111

the world have accepted tht sanskrit is the mother of all languages..including the european lang also


Sanskrit is indeed important in the Indo-European language tree. But other world languages do come from other proto-languages. Even within the Indo-European family - Latin and the Baltic languages are significant.

Originally posted by namrata1111

worlds first language , Sanskrit did not originate in Mesopotamia ..


Mesopotamian language was Sumerian. It started phasing out 1800 BC. Proto-Sanskrit originated around 1200 BC.

That is a tall claim to name the world's first language. As far as I know we have organic language trees and histories, but no conclusive evidence on what was the first.

Originally posted by namrata1111

sanskrit was given to the world by vedic civilization, which existed much before Indus valley n Mesopotamia..it is as old as the human existance in this world..


Actually Sanskrit as a language evolved concurrently with the Indus Valley civilization. Since a lot of classical civilizations evolved around the same period, there were multiple language evolutions. There were other proto or language isolates as well. Sanskrit is just one that was more prominent, documented and long lasting.

Moreover, how does an evolved language exist in entirety before civilization exists. Don't language and civilization go hand in hand. Confused


Originally posted by namrata1111

aryan invasion was a concept created by Britishers..


And the whole world got in on the conspiracy? Technically it was not an invasion, but a migration. So if that is a conspiracy theory what explains the Indo-Aryan language trees and the Indo-Aryan cultural and ethnic similarities that stretch from East India to Germania?

Originally posted by namrata1111

to make Indians feel that , their ancestors(Aryans) were also foreigner like the Britishers,


The human species originated in Africa. Technically we all are foreigners and immigrants. There exists no such thing as native human. Historically there have been several periods of human migrations and interchange. Even the British ancestry was from ancient Celts, Norse and the Western migrations form the Caucasus.

Originally posted by namrata1111

so they started teaching this crap for yrs in indian schools, n than Indians also started beleving this..

n thus Britisher succeded in their game of molding the history..


Big Brother did change history.

I'm sorry I'm going to need scholastic citation that states that the human migrations of history are a myth.

Originally posted by namrata1111

n thus Indians were cut off form thier glorious past..


How does accepting human migrations, evolution of language and culture cut us off from a glorious past. The Indus Valley was one of the most prominent ancient civilizations. India was the seat of great civilizations and Empires. The princely states of India were prosperous, educated and wealthy for long periods of time. That is fact and we dont need to believe that our entire history was confined within the boundaries of the Himalayas to accept our history. Migrations play a role in shaping cultures, they always have, still do and always will.

Originally posted by namrata1111

the Britishers ruled over about so many countries n they tried thier best to teach history according to their wish , so tht they would b benefited from this nonsense..

wht ppl read today as history is a crap created by britishers..

m very happy to discuss all this with u all..thank u guys for the discussion..


I guess all I can say is enlighten me.




Edited by return_to_hades - 15 September 2011 at 10:28am

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Posted: 15 September 2011 at 12:00pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by namrata1111

dear angie..

dear u misunderstud something...

a civilization n language develops gradually.. it cant develop in  a single day.LOLLOL
Exactly what I was pointing to!  LOL 

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Posted: 15 September 2011 at 4:47pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by monika.

@SUMMER..
have u read the book written by prof P N OAK..taj mahal the true story..
it has some pages from badshanama..n original copies of some hand written letters written by mughal emperor..it was originally called tejo mahalay.
this issue is also relatedtogod , so discussing it here..

I see. I have not read it. Taj Mahal sounds nicer to me.

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Posted: 15 September 2011 at 5:21pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Savage

I've switched loyalties from various Gods for every day of the week, to being plainly confused and maintaining a neutral, agnostic basic and have finally evolved into an atheist, all in two years.I don't believe in the existence of any God, personally and I never did. Most don't, they are propelled to, given the atmosphere they hail in. That's that, I still find it convenient to equate, like get me this, God and I'd visit you. It is just convenient, ask me. Helps you shed your baggage, and shift the blame of your failure.I am still stumbling, given my confusion regarding the existence of luck, because it is spiritual and everything, again. Karma is another interesting subject, but just like convenience, luck and karma are put together superficially and made into several kinds of God. Rubbish, in my opinion.

I strongly believe the idea of God being meant up, and I don't want to be rude or anything, this is debating right, so here's what gets the better of me.Approve

The soul moves in circles and the nature of the mind is to hop from one idea to another and distrust. But whether we believe in God or not, within us we have a feeling of immortality.
Anyway "Matro Devo Bhava and Pitru Devo Bhava" should be sufficient.
My problem in seeing the Truth is my own mental prejudices and misconceptions. Seems that the defect is in my blurred vision that fails to see the omnipresence. At times a leap of faith is needed but fear creeps in. How many a time when problems loomed large they disappeared at the dawn of the first light.
Does not God wear a mask and roam around freely? and we too need to dance to the same tune ?
When all efforts fail a prayer may be the only solution. The situation will not get any worse.LOL

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Posted: 15 September 2011 at 9:04pm | IP Logged
 
Initially when the body consciousness is very strong we tend to think of God as another person or entitiy. Later we may view it as a state of realization or a state of perfection and equilibrium.
Knowing:
 
"Sarvam kalvidam Brahman"
 
Hatred and prejudices all melt away then.
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Posted: 15 September 2011 at 10:39pm | IP Logged
Not for I love Caesar less, but for I love Rome more.


Edited by return_to_hades - 15 September 2011 at 10:40pm
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Posted: 16 September 2011 at 1:06am | IP Logged
Thanks Namrata ji.
I love the story of the Taj Mahal but I hat the King for cutting off the architect's hands.
He truly deserves punishment for that.
 
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Posted: 16 September 2011 at 1:08am | IP Logged
Originally posted by return_to_hades

Not for I love Caesar less, but for I love Rome more.
Where would Rome be without Caeser.
Generally the Italians are quite a lazy bunch but I love their food and their religion. They seem to have thousands of saints.LOL
 

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