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Posted: 18 September 2011 at 6:08pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by angie.4u

Originally posted by Darklord_Rehan


That is why, a stoic - or a person who does Karma without any fear or desire - is completely free from the effects of Karma as his Karma was done without any good or bad intention.

Ties in with the non doership mode! So would there be a re incarnation after that or no?

Once karma is all burnt or used up there is no rebirth they say. But the it is also said the thought at the point of death determines our fate. It seems that if we think of God only at point if death then there is no rebirth. But at point of death we are still praying for a brand new BMW it will be differentLOL
Young children who suddenly die without any sickness or suffering etc too have no more rebirths it is said. The thoughts determine everything.



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Posted: 18 September 2011 at 8:54pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by return_to_hades


The universe and nature seem neutral at best.  They are not interested in punishing the sinner and rewarding the virtuous - everyone is equal in the laws of the universe.

Human morality is subjective. It is dependent on human experience, culture, society and the brain of the individual. That makes every moral decision or judgment - relative and not absolute right?

But the question still bugs me - if the universe and nature is neutral - why do I have morality? Why am I not constant like gravity or consistent like mathematics? How did the neutral forces of nature produces something that is subjective, inconsistent and driven by a complex mixture of emotions and reason?
Admitting that we are unique in the universe  in that we are endowed with the ability to think, create emotions and take actions, it makes perfect sense to know that our moral intuitions were formed in the evolutionary process .. Our actions have ramifications, not just for us but others too and that obligates us to have a deeper understanding of right action in every aspect of our lives..
Interesting thing is that our sense of morality keeps us from giving in to our natural instincts, both being result of evolution..
Once we admit that fundamental moral principles are based in the well being of mankind, we can see that morality is as much scientific as it is spiritual..Having said that though, I don't think spiritual nature of morality should be applied to the rest of the universe..

Morality does not change over the years but beliefs about morality that are acquired from social norms and religious teachings changes through generations as in case of slavery.. Moral beliefs about thou shall not kill, lie, cheat, deceive has always existed in mankind and people of diverse religious and ethical persuasions represent it with great consistency..
Every person has potential to be a moral hero, to ponder what is right and take the benevolent action, but in reality it is a challenge because our actions are mostly based on emotions than thoughts.. Surprisingly and evidently, when facing moral dilemmas such as aborting baby to save mothers life, our emotions do not have much affect on our decision compared to when there is no clear cut answer and the situation demands less emotion and more reasoning.. 
Good moral reasoning is the foundation of good moral action or Karma if you will.

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Posted: 18 September 2011 at 9:05pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by K.Consciousness

Originally posted by angie.4u

Several theories abound regarding memory storage. Its moved on from local to non local.As per a theory quantum processing is supposed to take place in the microtubules. Patterns of quantum waves in the microtubules has been suggested as a sort of coding for memories. These could give rise  to electrical impulses across the synapses that are responsible for the communication  through chemical neurotransmitters.
 

Quantum is non-local. If that theory has any truth to it, that would mean our memories are non-local too but will collpase into one place when we "fetch" them.

Angie and Mr K...Nice physiological discussion going there...
I think you are on to something about "cloud based memory" ... I read an interesting article by Deepak Chopra in Newsweek magazine about collective memory and how it is stored like a hologram in brain and how we individually tap into the collection of memories..!  Intersting...   


 


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Posted: 19 September 2011 at 1:12pm | IP Logged
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I hate theories...Stern Smile
 
Originally posted by blue-ice

Originally posted by Prometeus

I hate theories...Stern Smile
especially the quantum theoryLOL...it fits into every thread...Wacko
 
[A]  to be fair ...maine toh bhooton ki story  bhi dali thi but none shared their own,    thats how it got steered on to these theories Unhappy


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Originally posted by K.Consciousness



Thanks. Not that Deepak Chopra lent any extra credence to that theory...


Agreed...At best he makes dull boring with his hocus pocus jargon...But I found that particular article readable only because he was asking questions..  

Originally posted by K.Consciousness


It's pretty straightforward actually -

1. There are what we call memories
2. The encoding and retrieval of memories happens in the brain, that part is ascertainable
3. The storage of these memories however is a black-box. That is because we don't know their representation in the brain
4. Microtubules within Neurons could hold the key
5. Theory goes that messages are carried through the microtubules by quantum wave functions
6. As you most likely know, quantum is a probabilistic function. At any given time, either the location or the momentum of the message is uncertain.

So, it's possible that the location of the memories is not in the location that we think they are in.

Could this be the reason our memory does not always serve us as expected? 

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Posted: 19 September 2011 at 2:08pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by angie.4u

Originally posted by Prometeus

I hate theories...Stern Smile
 
Originally posted by blue-ice

Originally posted by Prometeus

I hate theories...Stern Smile
especially the quantum theoryLOL...it fits into every thread...Wacko
 
[A]  to be fair ...maine toh bhooton ki story  bhi dali thi but none shared their own,    thats how it got steered on to these theories Unhappy
really...kis page per hai...actually when threads become too technical I loose interest in them...thats why I might have missed ur post...

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