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I have a question - surprised that I overlooked it earlier - did Pradhyumna & Mayavati have any sons from their marriage?  Anirudha, as per SB, was born to Rukmavati.

I think it amazing that Kama & Rati wouldn't have had any sons of theirs in this avatar.  Every other divine pair had, such as Krishna & Rukmini, Rama & Sita, and so on.

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Originally posted by .Vrish.

I have a question - surprised that I overlooked it earlier - did Pradhyumna & Mayavati have any sons from their marriage?  Anirudha, as per SB, was born to Rukmavati.

I think it amazing that Kama & Rati wouldn't have had any sons of theirs in this avatar.  Every other divine pair had, such as Krishna & Rukmini, Rama & Sita, and so on.

Even HAri Vamsa does'nt seem  to mention the names of Pradyumna's children thru Mayavati. 

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thanks for sharing...

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Another question - following the mini-argument I had on the DkDM D&D thread, is there any source that has it that either Pradhyumna or Anirudha survived the Yadava fratricide?  I always knew that both were killed in it - Pradhyumna was in fact the 3rd to be killed - following Kritavarma & Satyaki.

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I have a question. Actually, this is not really related to Krishna or Mahabharat actually, but I think the answer may be in MB more than any other purana.
 
I found out the other day that in regions where cousin marriages are still done, there are restrictions on them. As per our scriptures, cousins cannot marry if they are the children of two sisters or two brothers. A boy's mother and the girl's father either have to be siblings, or the boy's father and the girl's mother have to be siblings. However, I also learned that there is a restriction within that and that cousin marriages generally do not happen between a brother's son and a sister's daughter, and that it must be a brother's daughter and sister's son marrying each other if cousin marriage is done.
 
Are there any instances in our puranas of cousin marriages being done between a brother's son and sister's daughter? I know of a few marriages between a sister's son and brother's daughter, like Subhadra and Arjun's marriage, but I've never heard of the other way (a brother's son and sister's daughter).
 
I'm just interested to know if there are such instances if anyone knows...in South India, it's called eduru menarikam and generally people look down on those, though cousin marriages between a brother's daughter and sister's son are accepted.

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Originally posted by .Vrish.

Another question - following the mini-argument I had on the DkDM D&D thread, is there any source that has it that either Pradhyumna or Anirudha survived the Yadava fratricide?  I always knew that both were killed in it - Pradhyumna was in fact the 3rd to be killed - following Kritavarma & Satyaki.
 
I don't exactly know, but I think they too perished because they are said to be amsas of Lord Krishna, so once he is gone why would they remain?
 
Who's the one who survived and Arjuna installed on Dwaraka's throne? Was it Samba?

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No, Anirudha's son Vajra.

And no, they were not 'asmas' of Krishna.  Pradhyumna was Kama-dev reborn, and Rati, who had been waiting for him, took the human form of Mayavati and raised him herself.

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Originally posted by JanakiRaghunath

I have a question. Actually, this is not really related to Krishna or Mahabharat actually, but I think the answer may be in MB more than any other purana.
 
I found out the other day that in regions where cousin marriages are still done, there are restrictions on them. As per our scriptures, cousins cannot marry if they are the children of two sisters or two brothers.

Children of two brothers cannot marry since they will belong to the same gotra and hence related to each other as brother and sister.  Childern of sisters cannot marry since, your mother's sister is like your own mother.

A boy's mother and the girl's father either have to be siblings, or the boy's father and the girl's mother have to be siblings. However, I also learned that there is a restriction within that and that cousin marriages generally do not happen between a brother's son and a sister's daughter, and that it must be a brother's daughter and sister's son marrying each other if cousin marriage is done.
 
Are there any instances in our puranas of cousin marriages being done between a brother's son and sister's daughter? I know of a few marriages between a sister's son and brother's daughter, like Subhadra and Arjun's marriage, but I've never heard of the other way (a brother's son and sister's daughter).

Bhadra and Krishna's marraige. Bhadra's mother, Shrutakirti, was Vasudeva's sister. So this is an instance of sister's daughter marrying her uncle's son
 
I'm just interested to know if there are such instances if anyone knows...in South India, it's called eduru menarikam and generally people look down on those, though cousin marriages between a brother's daughter and sister's son are accepted.

No, in fact it used to be quite popular till a few decades ago. In fact, if a opportunity was there, a mother would be quite keen that her daughter marries into her (the mother's) maternal home. 



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