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Originally posted by vik rocks

Nice topic!

Hmm, I wanted to have a say something on this topic. A lot has already been said though.Embarrassed Well, Rukmini has been shown as someone who just doesn't have faith in Krishna's abilitiesOuch There are always signs of worries on her faceShocked I wished the Sagars had shown her just like Sita in ASR had full confidence in Ram & his strength except for the track before her abduction by Ravan for which I won't blame her at all. Rukmini being the avatar of Laxmi should have been shown strong & be the one who actually never doubts Krishna's strength. The Sagars are definitely at fault for potraying her character like thisThumbs Down

Yeah, and unlike Sita, she'd not have had to do anything extraordinary to show such devotion.  There was no vanvas, no agni-praveshnas, nothing even remotely comparable.  Had she simply been gentle and confident that nothing could ever happen to Krishna, she'd have been fine.  I do blame the Sagars here more for introducing all those stupid apshakuns, although I do somewhat fault her for not knowing how husbands were addressed. 

As nothing much has been showed about Jambvanti, I won't comment on her.

Yeah, that was a pure cameo appearance, and unless they show Samba later and her appear w/ him, I think her role may be done 

I've always wanted to comment on Satyabhama & the actress, but I wanted to watch some more episodes before giving out my opinion. So here I am. I don't want to mention about her costumes as that's the costume department's jobLOL The Sagars have portrayed her character as a very childish, immature, rich & spoilt bratShocked The choice of words are so sharp at times that it becomes unbearable to listenOuch I wonder who wrote those dialogues for her...Wink LOL!LOL

Yeah, from where did that idea come that she'd be so immature and spoilt?  And showing her as being downright disrespectful towards Krishna normally, and suddenly worshipping him when she's Naraka's captive, makes her look like just an ordinary woman.  Such a character couldn't have been Krishna's favorite wife out of his 8.

Talking about the actress who's enacting the role, well I do agree that a better actress could have been taken in her place but I won't categorize her as a completely bad actressApprove Sometimes it's not possible to get experienced actors for roles that are not lengthy. Anyway, after watching her since her introduction scene till yesterday, I've arrived to the conclusion that she needs time to learn but she can do itCool Even Priya had problems with her diction though being an experienced actress so as it seems the actress playing Satyabhama is new, maybe we'll just need to be a bit more patient with herEmbarrassed But I think I've seen her somewhere or she just resembles another model or actressConfused

But hers ain't a cameo appearance, and there are a lot of idle experienced actresses who could have spent a month in Baroda for this role.  As it is, in this serial, everybody's appearance, except Krishna's, and later Arjun's appearance will be cameo.  Also, there are a lot of appropriate actresses in Sagar Arts who participate in Shani Dev who could have been used, particularly for such brief stints.

But I don't think any experienced actress is called for here - I think that actresses familiar w/ the language and mannerism of the story are who should be engaged, and amongst TV actresses, there seems to be quite a handful.  It's not like we necessarily want a major big name, such as Debina.

 

She seems to rush up her dialogue delivery speed; as a result she ends up screwing up her pronunciation & facial expressionsD'ohThis happens especially in those scenes where she is with KrishnaD'oh She talks & behaves like a kid. I strongly feel that her fast dialogue delivery is the root cause of the problem here. She needs to slow down the pace of her dialogue delivery, soften the pitch of her voice & also mellow down her facial expressions. If she considers these things then I guess it can prevent her from screwing up her diction plus it will provide some divinity in her looksApprove

The actress herself - how old is she?  19?  Previously, I never thought that those who play these roles need to be familiar w/ these stories and of a similar temparament, but after seeing Priya in this serial, I've changed my mind.  I think she has been miscast - had she been given a role like Uttara or Usha later, it would have fitted her better.  Satyabhama was a far more mature woman, despite the Tulabharam incident.

Talking about her good qualities, I feel she's great in scenes where she needs to depict anger & strengthThumbs Up Whether it was during the sword fighting scene with Agnasuri or with Mura, she had the perfect expressions of anger & brave attitude in her eyes & face which was definitely required while doing those particular scenesClap She was also very good during the confrontation with Narkasur. But for such kind of scenes she needs to make her voice a bit firm & louderSmile It will provide more authenticity.

For these scenes - when she was defiant and fighting Agnisuri and Mura, she did great, and yeah, being louder would have helped.  While these dialogs were fictitious as well, they were at least a lot more consistent w/ things either Krishna or Satyabhama would have said.  One thing I'd note about the serial - it's improved a lot.  In week one, they looked totally clueless about why Krishna fled first from Kalyavan and later Jarasandha, but in the entire Narakasura stretch has been the turning point, they've done a fantastic job. Thumbs Up

I saw some improvement in her dialogue delivery in the scene where she was motivating the other captive women to fight for themselves. Here again the actress had the correct expressions on her face & in her eyesApprove

Yeah, Satyabhama was just awesome in this role Clap 

During the scene where she is praying to Krishna to come & save her, there is some slight improvement & some softness in her voice & attitude but she needs to mellow down a bit more during such kind of scenesEmbarrassed I think she was quite good in the confrontation scene with Bhoomi DeviSmile 

The actress playing Satyabhama seems to be a very good choice for warrior kind of rolesThumbs Up as she has the correct expressions plus brave attitude & confidence in her eyes & face for such scenesApprove but she needs to work on her dialogue delivery speed & facial expressions when she's not involved in a war sceneSmile The Sagars should guide her so that she can improve her shortcomings. Replacing an actor can never be a better solution in my POVApprove I'm sure she can improve, if she works harderEmbarrassed

I think the actress is probably more well equiped than the Sagars, who seemed to be @ sea w/ this story, given their choices of costumes, dialogs, events and a whole lot more.   Honestly, I've not seen a good Sagar Pictures serial, and the fact that this one is so far the best ought to say a lot about them.

Well if after showing only 3 principle wives of Krishna, if they jump to the 16,100 wives then when will they show the other 5 wives. Is it going to be a flashbackConfused I hope the Sagars cover all the aspects of Krishna's lifeConfused

I doubt that they're going to show the other 5 - Kalindi, Satya, Bhadra, Mitravindya and Lakshmanaa - either they themselves don't know the stories, or they consciously decided to skip them.  The other 5, along w/ RJS, were Krishna's principal wives, and the other 16,100 were given this wife status, along w/ sons and daughters, so that their honor would be redeemed.  The reason those 8 were principal wives was that theirs were arranged marriages w/ Krishna, and preceded these 16,100.
 
But if they show Krishna marrying those 5 after, it negates them being principal wives, and worse, would depict Krishna having an insatiable appetite for wives similar to Narakasura, so I at this point do not want them to show that.  Also, there were 16,100 women, but in all the dialogs, the only mention made is of 16,000 women.  Anyway, if you're talking 16,000 wives, I guess 100 wives is within margin of error Evil SmileLOL
 
As a result, Sagar Pictures has reduced Krishna's total number of wives from 16,108 to 16,003 (assuming that they show him marrying them)
 
However that doesn't mean I'm not waiting to see his love life. I'm more interested in war sequencesDay Dreaming
 
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Well yes I also agree with all that has been said. Neither the Sremadbhagwad Mahapuran nor the Mahabharat talk of ant rivalry between the wives of Lord Krishna

How do you get the Lord , you get him after many lives of good conduct devotion and prayers

How can these women who have got the Lord and are so near to him behave like normal humans harboring jealousy.

I did not like the " Rukmini must be crying dialogue" Does not suite a wife of Krishna


Amd also when Satyabhama falls at his feet why did they spoil it with the gialogue that it was a bhram. Well according to the Lord everything is bhram only. But if he was showing her his divinity he should have given a proper lesson  in it

I agree that Sataybhama had a false belief that she was the most beloved. (In Lords eye all the beloved and no one is most) Thus was proudi due to it but not jealous. After the darp bhang story she was cleansed of that feeling also

I also agree with Vrish on the Kanha thing, Satyabhama is not Yashoda Mayyiya and Keishna stopped being Kanha after he left Gokul


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Well if after showing only 3 principle wives of Krishna, if they jump to the 16,100 wives then when will they show the other 5 wives. Is it going to be a flashbackConfused I hope the Sagars cover all the aspects of Krishna's lifeConfused

I doubt that they're going to show the other 5 - Kalindi, Satya, Bhadra, Mitravindya and Lakshmanaa - either they themselves don't know the stories, or they consciously decided to skip them.  The other 5, along w/ RJS, were Krishna's principal wives, and the other 16,100 were given this wife status, along w/ sons and daughters, so that their honor would be redeemed.  The reason those 8 were principal wives was that theirs were arranged marriages w/ Krishna, and preceded these 16,100.
 
But if they show Krishna marrying those 5 after, it negates them being principal wives, and worse, would depict Krishna having an insatiable appetite for wives similar to Narakasura, so I at this point do not want them to show that.  Also, there were 16,100 women, but in all the dialogs, the only mention made is of 16,000 women.  Anyway, if you're talking 16,000 wives, I guess 100 wives is within margin of error Evil SmileLOL
 
As a result, Sagar Pictures has reduced Krishna's total number of wives from 16,108 to 16,008 (assuming that they show him marrying them)
 
However that doesn't mean I'm not waiting to see his love life. I'm more interested in war sequencesDay Dreaming
 



They should show the other 5 wives. All of them had a story

Kalindi was doing Tapas on the banks of Yamuna. Mitravinda had a swamvar like Draupadi, Other two also had stories which should be told

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One more reason they should have shown the other 5 marriages, aside from completion, was the fact that Arjun actively helped Krishna in 3 of them.  That would have been a good way to phase in the Pandavas.
 
We discussed the other wives a bit in the EDT.  Mitravindya wasn't the one who had a swayamvar like Draupadi - Lakshmanaa did.  Mitravindya was abducted like Rukmini was, w/ her consent but against that of her brothers Vinda and Anuvinda, who ruled Avanti.  Where Balarama in the Rukmini case prevented Jarasandha, Sishupala, Shalva, Dantavatra, Paundra and other allies from capturing her, in this case, Arjun was the one who kept Krishna's enemies @ bay and saw to it that Krishna got to Dwarka safely w/ Mitravindya.
 
But at this point, I'm against them showing the other 5 wives.  If, after 16,003 wives (as per the serial count), Krishna is still shown marrying, it'll seem like he had an insatiable hunger for wives.  When he was just married to 8 wives, that wasn't so bad, but now, after so many wives, if he keeps taking more, it'll just look pretty awful.
 
One more comment about Priya that I forgot to mention in Vik's post.  Rukmini'll have one major chapter left - when she gives birth to Pradhyumna.  Since Pradhyumna is kidnapped and returns to her much later, they'll probably show her grieving for her lost baby.  There are a lot of things they could do here - like bring Devaki back to console & comfort her, show her having faith in Krishna's assurances that she'll get back her son, praying for her son's well being, and finally, welcoming Pradhyumna and her bahu Mayavati back home.  I hope they do this accurately, and don't spoil it like they did the Syamantaka gem - the initial episodes.


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Originally posted by _Vrish_

 
We discussed the other wives a bit in the EDT.  Mitravindya wasn't the one who had a swayamvar like Draupadi - Lakshmanaa did.  M
 
But at this point, I'm against them showing the other 5 wives.  If, after 16,003 wives (as per the serial count), Krishna is still shown marrying, it'll seem like he had an insatiable hunger for wives.  When he was just married to 8 wives, that wasn't so bad, but now, after so many wives, if he keeps taking more, it'll just look pretty awful.
 



Oh yes thanks for correcting me it was Lakshmana


What is the story if his marriage to the other two Bhadra and Satya

Krishna married these 16100 to rescue them, so we cannot say that he had an insatiable hunger for wives

Well do you know for sure that these marriages took place before the Narkasur incident or after it?


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I don't recall the story of Bhadra & Satya's marriages - maybe Vinu or vaarali can fill in - it was discussed some in the EDT. 
Lakshmanaa had a swayamvar almost identical to Draupadi's, except that in Draupadi's case, one could see the fish above as well as its reflection, but  could only shoot based on the reflection, whereas for Lakshmanaa, one could only see the reflection, but not the original fish.
 
Kalindhi was meditating in the Khandavprastha forest when Arjun found her, and she told him that she was meditating to achieve Vishnu.  Arjun took her to Krishna, who married her after returning to Dwarka.
 
Krishna married these first 8 wives before his war against Narakasura, not after.  After he married the 16,100 damsels, he never married anyone else.  The sequence in which these marriages happened is pretty important. 
 
For starters, those 8 wouldn't have been called his principle wives had any of them followed those 16,100: they'd have been junior to them, since the hierarchy of sautans was based not on their age or stature, but who married the husband first.  That was the basis on which Rukmini was chief queen.  Then, after Krishna had 16,008 (as depicted in this serial), to show him to go on and marry Kalindhi, Bhadra, Satya, Mitravindya and Lakshmanaa would send the message that for Krishna, 16,003 wives were not enough, and unlike in case of the 16,000, these 5 weren't in such dire straits that they couldn't have married anyone else.  That's different from his having 8 regular wives, and then going on to marry the other 16,100 (or 16,000 according to the Sagars) to save them from a lifetime of ignomy.
 
There are some changes to the script that don't alter the message of the story much, but this one would, if they went ahead and did it.  So if they show Krishna marrying all 16,000 of them, I'd rather they not show the next 5.

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Srimadbhagvad mahapuran chapter 83, "Draupadi Meets the Queens of Krsna."

Draupadi to the wives of Lord Krsna. She addressed them: "My dear Rukmini, Bhadra, Jambavati, Satya, Satyabhama, Kalindi, Saibya, Laksmana, Rohini and all other wives of Lord Krsna, will you please let us know how Lord Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, accepted you as His wives and married you in pursuance of the marriage ceremonies of ordinary human beings?"

To this question, the chief of the queens, Rukminidevi, replied, "My dear Draupadi, it was practically a settled fact that princes like Jarasandha and others wanted me to marry King Sisupala, and, as is usual, all the princes present during the marriage ceremony were prepared with their armor and weapons to fight with any rival who dared to stop the marriage. But the Supreme Personality of Godhead kidnapped me the way a lion takes away a lamb from the flock. This was not, however, a very wondrous act for Lord Krsna, because anyone who claims to be a very great hero or king within this world is subordinate to the lotus feet of the Lord. All the kings touched their helmets to the lotus feet of Lord Krsna. My dear Draupadi, it is my eternal desire that life after life I may be engaged in the service of Lord Krsna, who is the reservoir of all pleasure and beauty. This is my only desire and ambition in life."

After this, Satyabhama began to speak. She said, "My dear Draupadi, my father was very much afflicted on the death of his brother, Prasena, and he falsely accused Lord Krsna of killing his brother and stealing the Syamantaka jewel, which had actually been taken by Jambavan. Lord Krsna, in order to establish His pure character, fought with Jambavan and rescued the Syamantaka jewel, which was later delivered to my father. My father was very much ashamed and sorry for accusing Lord Krsna of his brother's death. After getting back the Syamantaka jewel, he thought it wise to rectify his mistake, so although he had promised others my hand in marriage, he submitted the jewel and myself at the lotus feet of Krsna, and thus I was accepted as His maidservant and wife."

After this, Jambavati replied to Draupadi's question. She said, "My dear Draupadi, when Lord Krsna attacked my father Jambavan, the king of the rksas, my father did not know that Lord Krsna was his former master, Lord Ramacandra, the husband of Sita. Not knowing the identity of Lord Krsna, my father remained continually engaged in fighting with Him for twenty-seven days. After this period, when he became very tired and fatigued, he could understand that since no one but Lord Ramacandra could defeat him, his opponent, Lord Krsna, must be the same Lord Ramacandra. He thus came to his senses and not only immediately returned the Syamantaka jewel, but in order to satisfy the Lord, he presented me to Him to become His wife. In this way I was married to the Lord, and thus my desire to remain life after life as a servitor of Krsna was fulfilled."

After this, Kalindi said, "My dear Draupadi, I was engaged in great austerities and penances in order to get Lord Krsna as my husband. When Lord Krsna became aware of this fact, He very kindly came to me along with His friend Arjuna and accepted me as His wife. Lord Krsna then took me away from the bank of Yamuna, and since then I have been engaged in the house of Lord Krsna as a sweeper. And the Lord is treating me as His wife."

After this, Mitravinda said, "My dear Draupadi, there was a great assembly of princes at my svayamvara ceremony. Lord Krsna was also present in that meeting, and He accepted me as His maidservant by defeating all the princes present there. He immediately took me away to Dvaraka, exactly as a lion takes a deer from a pack of dogs. When I was thus taken away by Lord Krsna, my brothers wanted to fight with Him, and later on they were defeated. Thus my desire to become the maidservant of Krsna life after life was fulfilled."

After this, Satya addressed Draupadi in this way: "My dear Draupadi, my father arranged for an assembly for my svayamvara,[the personal selection of a husband], and in order to test the strength and heroism of the prospective bridegrooms, my father stipulated that they each fight with his seven ferocious bulls, which had long, serpentine horns. Many heroic prospective bridegrooms tried to defeat the bulls, but unfortunately they were all severely struck, and they returned to their homes as defeated invalids. When Lord Sri Krsna came and fought with the bulls, they were just like playthings for Him. He captured the bulls and roped each one of them by their nostrils. Thus they came under His control, just like a goat's small kids come very easily under the control of children. My father became very pleased and married me with Lord Krsna in great pomp, giving as my dowry many divisions of soldiers, horses, chariots and elephants, along with hundreds of maidservants. Thus Lord Krsna brought me to His capital city, Dvaraka. On the way back, He was also assaulted by many princes, but Lord Krsna defeated all of them, and thus I have the privilege of serving His lotus feet as a maidservant."

After this, Bhadra began to speak. She said, "My dear Draupadi, Lord Krsna is the son of my maternal uncle. Fortunately, I became attracted to His lotus feet. When my father understood these feelings of mine, he personally arranged for my marriage, inviting Lord Krsna to marry me and giving Him in dowry one aksauhini, or division of armed forces, along with many maidservants and other royal paraphernalia. I do not know whether I shall be able to have the shelter of Lord Krsna life after life, but still I pray to the Lord that wherever I may take my birth I may not forget my relationship with His lotus feet."

Then Laksmana said, "My dear Queen, many times I have heard the great sage Narada glorifying the pastimes of Lord Krsna. I became attracted to the lotus feet of Krsna when I heard Narada say that the goddess of fortune, Laksmi, was also attracted to His lotus feet. Since then I have always been thinking of Him, and thus my attraction for Him has increased. My dear Queen, my father was very affectionate toward me. When he understood that I was attracted to Krsna, he devised a plan, his plan was like that devised by your father; during the svayamvara, the prospective bridegrooms had to pierce the eyes of a fish with their arrows. The difference between the competition in your svayamvara and mine was that in your case the fish was hanging openly on the ceiling, in clear view, but in my case the fish was covered with a cloth and could only be seen by the reflection of the cloth in a pot of water. That was the special feature of mysvayamvara.

"The news of this device was spread all over the world, and when the princes heard of it, they arrived at my father's capital city from all directions, fully equipped with armor and guided by their military instructors. Each one of them desired to win me as his wife, and one after another they raised the bow and arrow which was left there for piercing the fish. Many could not even join the bowstring to the two ends of the bow, and without attempting to pierce the fish, they simply left the bow as it was and went away. Some with great difficulty drew the string from one end to the other, and being unable to tie the other end, they were suddenly knocked down by the spring-like bow. My dear Queen, you will be surprised to know that at mysvayamvara meeting there were many famous kings and heroes present. Heroes like Jarasandha, Ambastha, Sisupala, Bhimasena, Duryodhana and Karna were, of course, able to string the bow, but they could not pierce the fish, because it was covered, and they could not trace it out from the reflection. The celebrated hero of the Pandavas, Arjuna, was able to see the reflection of the fish on the water, but although with great caution he traced out the location of the fish and shot an arrow, he did not pierce the fish in the right spot. His arrow at least touched the fish, and so he proved himself better than all other princes.

"All the princes who had tried to pierce the target were disappointed, being baffled in their attempts, and some candidates had even left the place without making an attempt, but when at last Lord Krsna took up the bow, He was able to tie the bowstring very easily, just as a child plays with a toy. He placed the arrow, and looking only once at the reflection of the fish in the water, He shot the arrow, and the pierced fish immediately fell down. This victory of Lord Krsna was accomplished at noon, during the moment called abhijit, which is astronomically calculated as auspicious. At that time the vibration of 'Jaya! Jaya!' was heard all over the world, and from the sky came sounds of drums beat by the denizens of heaven. Great demigods were overwhelmed with joy and began to shower flowers on the earth.

"At that time, I entered the arena of competition, and the ankle bells on my legs were sounding very melodiously as I walked. I was nicely dressed with new silken garments, flowers were decorating my hair, and because of Lord Krsna's victory, I was in ecstatic joy and smiling very pleasingly. I was carrying in my hands a golden necklace bedecked with jewels, which was glittered at intervals. My curling hair encircled my face, which was shining with a bright luster due to the reflection of my various rings. My eyes blinking, I first of all observed all the princes present, and when I reached my Lord I very slowly placed the golden necklace on His neck. As I have already informed you, from the very beginning my mind had been attracted by Lord Krsna, and thus I considered the garlanding of the Lord to be my great victory. As soon as I placed my garland on the neck of the Lord, there sounded immediately the combined vibration ofmrdangas, patahas, conchshells, drums, kettledrums and other instruments, causing a tumultuous sound, and while the music played, expert male and female dancers began to dance, and singers began to sing sweetly.

"My dear Draupadi, when I accepted Lord Krsna as my worshipable husband, and He also accepted me as His maidservant, there was a tumultuous roaring among the disappointed princes. All of them became very agitated because of their lusty desires, but without caring for them, my husband, in His form as the four-handed Narayana, immediately took me on His chariot, which was drawn by four excellent horses. Expecting opposition from the princes, He armored Himself and took up His bow named Sarnga, but our celebrated driver, Daruka, drove the beautiful chariot without a moment's delay toward the city of Dvaraka. Thus, in the presence of all the princes, I was carried away very quickly, exactly as a deer is carried away from the flock by a lion. Some of the princes, however, wanted to check our progress, and thus, equipped with proper weapons, they opposed us, just as dogs try to oppose the progressive march of a lion. At that time, due to the arrows released by the Sarnga bow of Lord Krsna, some of the princes were cut on their left hands, some of them lost their legs, and some lost their heads and their lives, and others fled from the battlefield.

"The Supreme Personality of Godhead then entered the most celebrated city of the universe, Dvaraka, and as He entered the city, He appeared like the shining sun. The whole city of Dvaraka was profusely decorated on that occasion. There were so many flags and festoons and gates all over Dvaraka that the sunshine could not even enter the city. I have already told you that my father was very much affectionate to me, so when he saw that my desire was fulfilled by getting Lord Krsna as my husband, in great happiness he began to distribute to friends and relatives various kinds of gifts, such as valuable dresses, ornaments, bedsteads and sitting carpets. Lord Krsna is always self-sufficient, yet my father, out of his own accord, offered my husband a dowry consisting of riches, soldiers, elephants, chariots, horses and many rare and valuable weapons. He presented all these to the Lord with great enthusiasm. My dear Queen, at that time I could guess that in my previous life I must have performed some wonderfully pious activity, and as a result I can in this life be one of the maidservants in the house of the Supreme Personality of Godhead."

When all the principal queens of Lord Krsna had finished their statements, Rohini, as the representative of the other sixteen thousand queens, began to narrate the incident of their becoming wives of Krsna.

"My dear Queen, when Bhaumasura was conquering all the world, he collected wherever possible all the beautiful daughters of the kings and kept us arrested within his palace. When news of our imprisonment reached Lord Krsna, He fought with Bhaumasura and released us. Lord Krsna killed Bhaumasura and all his soldiers, and although He had no need to accept even one wife, He nevertheless, by our request, married all sixteen thousand of us. My dear Queen, our only qualification was that we were always thinking of the lotus feet of Lord Krsna, which is the way to release oneself from the bondage of repeated birth and death. My dear Queen Draupadi, please take it from us that we are not after any opulence such as kingdom, empire, or a position of heavenly enjoyment. We do not want to enjoy such material opulences, nor do we desire to achieve the yogic perfections, nor the exalted post of Lord Brahma. Nor do we want any of the different kinds of liberation--salokya, sarsti, samipya or sayujya. We are not at all attracted by any of these opulences. Our only ambition is to bear on our heads life after life the dust particles attached to the lotus feet of Lord Krsna. The goddess of fortune also desires to keep that dust on her breasts, along with fragrant saffron. We simply desire this dust, which accumulates underneath the lotus feet of Krsna as He travels on the land of Vrndavana as a cowherd boy. Thegopis especially, and also the cowherd men and the aborigine tribeswomen, always desire to become the grass and straw on the street of Vrndavana, to be trampled on by the lotus feet of Krsna. My dear Queen, we wish to remain as such life after life, without any other desire."

Thus ends the Bhaktivedanta purport of the Eighty-third Chapter ofKrsna, "Draupadi Meets the Queens of Krsna."



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Thanks for the accounts.  The above account clearly shows that all those 16,000 (or 16,100) wives were preceded by the first 8.

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