What is the point of getting married? (Page 6)

zorrro

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Originally posted by Prometeus

Originally posted by blue-ice

^^ Angie...All that u have said is true because marriage is an overrated /man made institution and it has been drilled in our mind...to give respect and acceptance to a couple who is married and to look down on the one that is not...a committed couple can give the same sense of security, stability and love to a child that a married couple would...if there is no committment..a marriage would not hold the couple together...the important part of being together is committment and not a legal contract like marriage...u can always get out of a contract...pay the penalty and be out...

Man created this instituation cos love is insecure...Marriage is a security...the registry office, the police, the court are behind it..the state, the society, the religion -- they are all behind it...cos people believe marriage is more permanent than love...!

Agreed .

But here people seem to be against that very idea of security being provided by a marriage . It is perhaps felt that a live in relationship is more convenient as it is easier to get out of it- exactly the reason why it would be more unstable

Summer3

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Marriage is basically doing things legally.

I agree that it is the spirit that counts, but still better to have it all formalised. The poor kid too does not want to feel odd in school.

zorrro

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Posted: 06 July 2011 at 1:42am | IP Logged

Originally posted by blue-ice

Originally posted by zorrro

^^ A live in couple decided to have kids .Did not get married. The couple died in a car crash. what happens to the future of the kid who does not have any legal document to support his claim to inheritance? same stability and security as a kid born of wedlock?

If there was nothing going in for legal documents or contracts why do you think the LGBTS are fighting for marriage rights?

even in an organisation people want documents or contracts before they proceed in any partnership. When one intends to go into a partnership for life whats wrong in getting a contract?

If one is committed why shun the contract

It all boils down to the fact that we have a glorified image of marriage in our heads...we made it...we made the rules...we have made it a legal contract...

Why the LGBTS is fighting for marriage rights...because they want it to be available to them like any other heterosexual couple...they are not fighting for marriage right per se but they are fighting for equality..with the heterosexual couple...in any field...right now they have equality in every other field other than marriage...so they are fighting for it..

Like I said before also...everything u are saying is technically correct because we have created all this...but all this means is that marriage is important from a legal point of view...there is no doubt about that...but if there is no committment it will not hold couples together...

what do you suggest in that case? should marriage be abolished ? Promote people to simply live together and then separate at the drop of a hat? Or perhaps remain single

Edited by zorrro - 06 July 2011 at 1:42am

blue-ice

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Originally posted by zorrro

what do you suggest in that case? should marriage be abolished ? Promote people to simply live together and then separate at the drop of a hat? Or perhaps remain single

None of that...but don't give marriage any more importance than it deserves...people should get married because they WANT to and not because they HAVE to..

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Prometeus

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Posted: 06 July 2011 at 1:57am | IP Logged

Originally posted by blue-ice

Originally posted by Prometeus

Originally posted by blue-ice

^^ Angie...All that u have said is true because marriage is an overrated /man made institution and it has been drilled in our mind...to give respect and acceptance to a couple who is married and to look down on the one that is not...a committed couple can give the same sense of security, stability and love to a child that a married couple would...if there is no committment..a marriage would not hold the couple together...the important part of being together is committment and not a legal contract like marriage...u can always get out of a contract...pay the penalty and be out...

Man created this instituation cos love is insecure...Marriage is a security...the registry office, the police, the court are behind it..the state, the society, the religion -- they are all behind it...cos people believe marriage is more permanent than love...!

Ever heard of something called 'Divorce'??--divorce, from the Latin word meaning to rip out a man's genitals through his wallet.

_Angie_

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Posted: 06 July 2011 at 2:02am | IP Logged

Originally posted by blue-ice

Originally posted by zorrro

what do you suggest in that case? should marriage be abolished ? Promote people to simply live together and then separate at the drop of a hat? Or perhaps remain single

None of that...but don't give marriage any more importance than it deserves...people should get married because they WANT to and not because they HAVE to..

couldnt agree more myself. Unfortunately not everyone has the freedom to do even that!

Prometeus

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Posted: 06 July 2011 at 2:11am | IP Logged

Originally posted by zorrro

Originally posted by Prometeus

Originally posted by blue-ice

^^ Angie...All that u have said is true because marriage is an overrated /man made institution and it has been drilled in our mind...to give respect and acceptance to a couple who is married and to look down on the one that is not...a committed couple can give the same sense of security, stability and love to a child that a married couple would...if there is no committment..a marriage would not hold the couple together...the important part of being together is committment and not a legal contract like marriage...u can always get out of a contract...pay the penalty and be out...

Man created this instituation cos love is insecure...Marriage is a security...the registry office, the police, the court are behind it..the state, the society, the religion -- they are all behind it...cos people believe marriage is more permanent than love...!

Agreed .

But here people seem to be against that very idea of security being provided by a marriage . It is perhaps felt that a live in relationship is more convenient as it is easier to get out of it- exactly the reason why it would be more unstable

Cos relationships are just rules of the game...! Those who dont take life too seriously...they can enjoy the God of small things...

_Angie_

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Originally posted by blue-ice

^^ Angie...All that u have said is true because marriage is an overrated /man made institution and it has been drilled in our mind...to give respect and acceptance to a couple who is married and to look down on the one that is not...a committed couple can give the same sense of security, stability and love to a child that a married couple would...if there is no committment..a marriage would not hold the couple together...the important part of being together is committment and not a legal contract like marriage...u can always get out of a contract...pay the penalty and be out...

There is no need to look down on anyone blue ice! As I said each to his own. we all seem to be in agreement regarding the need for commitment in making any relationship work. Formalising things has its advantages so my question was what could be the reason for staying off marriage when one has already decided to raise kids with someone. I mean does it really serve any purpose at that stage by not giving the relationship a legal approval?The only possible reason that comes to my mind is to avoid the hassles of a divorce if it is required some day. To me that seems to quite a pessimistic approach to take.

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