mittijalebi
IF-Rockerz
Joined: 08 May 2006
Posts: 5437
i've always wanted a partner by my side...someone who i could grow old with, share my innermost feelings with, have children with etc etc.
The following 2 member(s) liked the above post:
veil_of_roses, blue-ice,
U-No-Poo
IF-Sizzlerz
Joined: 15 June 2007
Posts: 23462


The following 5 member(s) liked the above post:
rabees011, Dr3viL, veil_of_roses, monar, blue-ice,
_Angie_
IF-Rockerz
Joined: 21 February 2008
Posts: 9627
A person has his duties towards wife/children/parents/family members/ colleagues/friends and also society . Sometimes the duties clash and a person opts for the larger good. Can the child always be the priority no.1?
Closer home, what about the working couples these days? When little children get kept in crches or under some relative's or a nanny's care is that child being priority one ? If the young couple is unable to lavish as much care or time as one would desire does it mean that they should decide NOT to have kids of their own ? I think one would have to strike a balance with the changing times.
The following 1 member(s) liked the above post:
my_view,
aanyakunat
IF-Rockerz
Joined: 04 April 2006
Posts: 8261
The following 2 member(s) liked the above post:
rabees011, Howlarious,
return_to_hades
IF-Veteran Member
Joined: 18 January 2006
Posts: 18267
Angie, if the point of marrying was to be well cared for then all women would marry some rich old geezer who can provide for them. There is a lot more to relationships. It's about companionship, being there for each other, spending time together and enjoying it. It's about intimacy, being able to connect with someone emotionally, physically, intellectually. To be able to talk about how the day went, have dinner as a family.
It is this very 'duty oriented' notion of marriage that has in a way eroded marriage. People would rather engage in relationships that are mutual, equal, meaningful and fulfilling rather than be bound by duty and believe that relationships are fulfilled because duties are fulfilled.
As I said earlier Buddha's time was different, marriage had a whole different notion and the husband-wife connection as not emphasized as today. Perhaps for his time he could have been the best husband a woman could ask for. But still the fact remains that he abandoned his wife and children for a good long period. He may have fulfilled his duties, but he did not fulfill the relationships.
I agree Lord Ram was a whole lot worse. The foundation of a marriage is trust. The worst thing a person can do to their partner is publicly question their chastity based on trashy gossip despite knowing that the person has been faithful. Even if Sita had been violated by Ravana, what sort of man abandons his wife after she has been through that trauma. People of faith have their explanations, but my convictions will always state that Lord Ram wronged his wife and abandoned her when she needed him most.
Coming to children, I think there is a difference between working for your family and working despite your family. The cost of living makes it necessary for both parents to work, sometimes long hours so that their family can have a good comfortable life. People also need to be able to fulfill some personal aspirations to be able to enable the aspirations of their children.
Irresponsible parents let nannies and relatives raise their kids. Responsible parents use nannies or day care when needed, but still spend time with kids as much as possible. Irresponsible parents are engrossed in work/other stuff and don't know what is going on with kids. Responsible parents talk to their children, their teachers, their friends and are involved. Irresponsible parents make commitments at work or elsewhere without thinking about family. Responsible parents always think how decisions impact their family before making them.
Balancing life is not easy and we are all bound to mess up sometime. There will be forgotten birthdays or missed ball games. There will be times when people have things weighing on their mind and completely ignore their family. There is a learning curve to parenting and sometimes people take years learning how to prioritize. The important thing is that people realize that they have kids and are willing to make sacrifices for them.
The only place where I can see a genuine conflict between being a parent and other responsibilities is for a soldier. Sometimes a soldier has to leave wife and kids, with the risk of never seeing them again. Even truck drivers, expatriates, traveling sales people have breaks to visit family, time to make skype calls and catch up – soldiers often don't even have that.
The following 4 member(s) liked the above post:
-Anarkali-, veil_of_roses, mittijalebi, Beyond_the_Veil,
Prometeus
IF-Sizzlerz
Joined: 03 December 2005
Posts: 24268
@ RTH ----Acutaly problem/matter kya hey???
I mean you support marriage system or not!!?![]()
_Angie_
IF-Rockerz
Joined: 21 February 2008
Posts: 9627
Sarina, relationship may not be the priority no 1 as far as most marriages go since there are a lot of expectations in other areas thrown in as well. Since you emphasised children if born being priority no. 1 how do you see that being fulfilled in a live in relationship. The children may be well cared for but a child also needs stability for his emotional and psychological well being. Short term or multiple relationships would deny the sort of stable family that a marriage usually ensures. Further an illegitimate child would be prone to certain disadvantages in society. If the parents are already living together and perhaps committed to each other why the hesitation or unwillingness to get married? How would it detract anything from what they have? To me it suggests a lack of commitment. If one is not sure about ones commitments is it fair to bring a child into this world? Going to the courts demanding DNA tests to prove paternity when relationships turn sour is so distasteful.
return_to_hades
IF-Veteran Member
Joined: 18 January 2006
Posts: 18267
Sarina, relationship may not be the priority no 1 as far as most marriages go since there are a lot of expectations in other areas thrown in as well. Since you emphasised children if born being priority no. 1 how do you see that being fulfilled in a live in relationship. The children may be well cared for but a child also needs stability for his emotional and psychological well being. Short term or multiple relationships would deny the sort of stable family that a marriage usually ensures. Further an illegitimate child would be prone to certain disadvantages in society. If the parents are already living together and perhaps committed to each other why the hesitation or unwillingness to get married? How would it detract anything from what they have? To me it suggests a lack of commitment. If one is not sure about ones commitments is it fair to bring a child into this world? Going to the courts demanding DNA tests to prove paternity when relationships turn sour is so distasteful.
| Topics | Topic Starter | Replies | Views | Last Post | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| what is the point of debates? | mkzara | 84 | 4079 | 15 April 2009 at 9:52pm By Mindbender |
|
| Married Heros vs Married Heroins | TheRowdiest | 17 | 962 | 06 May 2007 at 7:25am By mermaid_QT |
|
| whats the point about slam book | ent_girl | 13 | 1405 | 04 February 2007 at 11:48pm By IdeaQueen |
|
| Why do ppl point fingerz at girlz/ladies? | x.Asian~Flava.x | 5 | 254 | 29 December 2006 at 5:00am By savie |
|
| TD-Change in DK for love, turning point | samy74 | 19 | 1550 | 24 May 2005 at 7:37am By rm_apple |
Be the part of India's biggest discussion portal.
It’s easy to Join and it’s free.
Register now while it’s free!
Already a member? Close this window and log in.