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Reality Check - DID1/2 both winners (Page 3)

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Posted: 22 May 2011 at 3:54am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Natkhatpari

Originally posted by akanna

Going with the Math in the OP, Jalwa gets 318 for the GF.. Havent watched the whole finale yet.. Maybe they didnt air all the acts, and might have edited out one dance each from both teams... Just a guess...

u know u may be right... as the points diff was 36-34... may be the acts were not finale worth or something sort... may be possible... Shocked


Even i am confused with the scores...before jai and amar's solo performances, the scores shown were 206 (josh) and 210 (jalwa), after their performance it became 296 (josh) and 303 (jalwa) and then the scores for final takkar were added and it became 343 and 353!!

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Posted: 22 May 2011 at 9:04am | IP Logged
You guys are right coz there was no Parvez-Vandana duet telecasted...whereas an article posted on IF said so. It even had a pic of them dancing.
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Posted: 22 May 2011 at 10:40am | IP Logged
Yeah, there calculators prolly failed and mental math is not their strongest suit...

Edited by debayon - 22 May 2011 at 10:47am
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Posted: 22 May 2011 at 11:45am | IP Logged
hmmm something def' has been edited out.

in the finale previews i've seen on sbs n reality report both the teams perform together on the song pei pei from dance pe chance 

but i did not see this in the actual finale unless i blinked and missed the whole performance???

alisha n paulson are matching, vandana n parvez duet was mentioned in a TB article also before the duet round started manish mentioned that one of the duets would be awarded duet performance of the day which they didn't show even though im 100% certain mayuresh n bhavna would've gotten that title

the difference of 30-odd points indicates that the second round of duets were quite poor/average


Edited by ShellyB - 22 May 2011 at 12:10pm
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Posted: 22 May 2011 at 4:37pm | IP Logged
Maybe they edited out two duets, one each from each team, due to time crunch for the airing slot... They might include the missed acts when they repeat the finale show later, maybe just before DID3 starts.. They had done this editing and cutting off from the finale shows before too, but then will show in the repeat airing later... I would have loved to see all the acts, esp when they were included in the scoring for each team...
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Posted: 23 May 2011 at 10:00pm | IP Logged
Considering that this was a 'team' contest, I think it is fair to say Jalwa won. They won in the finale, and their cumulative totals are also higher. I don't have a preference for either season, there are good dancers in both. But I guess season one invokes more nostalgia that tends to sway me a bit.

Either way on paper I think Josh appears stronger than Jalwa. I personally felt Jalwa had some weaker links. Also overall I felt Josh had more versatility, while Jalwa had dancers who are really mind blowing in some niches. At least thats how I perceive the teams, and I think if you study the scores Josh significantly beats Jalwa in the "individual" scores.

However, Jalwa completely trumps Josh in all "team" based categories, group, duo and trio. I think it is fair to say that Jalwa while being weaker on paper had the better "team functionality" and deserved to win. As a team I think they learned how to play their strengths and weaknesses well.

To give Dharmesh his due credit, even though he is constantly elevated to a larger than life presence - he knows to keep his ground. Even the best of people would have tried to make it all about themselves, but he still comes of as a team player. I think his long time experience teaching and in troupes gives him that sense of team effort.

Josh's weakness is in their "star" dancer. When you have a larger group of accomplished, versatile dancer that "team consensus" becomes hard to come by. Its harder to know whom to elevate, where and when. Josh also definitely suffered from the "egos" of their dancers. I definitely don't think they are bad people or are completely in the wrong, nor does it anyway diminish their dancing abilities. I think they are just too exceptionally type A about dance. Whether its their struggles, whether its their passion or whatever - there is a fragility to their sensitivities that manifests as misplaced arrogance. If you have one extreme personality, its not that hard to handle - but throw too many together you have a problem.

You see this happen a lot in sports. A coach puts together a "Dream Team" but it completely backfires because its a team of good players, theres very few happy to slip into second fiddle, be the supporting role, theres no one who feels its Ok not to shine. Thats a difference between team and individual sports. The fastest runner is not always on the relay team, the top seed tennis player is not playing doubles.

I think Jalwa is a clear winner in this team contest due to their ability to come together as a team. They knew their strengths and weaknesses and played to it. Had it been a more individual competition the results perhaps could have been different, I think the individuals in Josh have an edge to go farther ahead. Perhaps is the key operative though, we won't know for sure unless we actually have a Top Chef Masters style face off for DID as well down the line. But looking at their core competencies, I'm pretty sure that Josh might have more individuals who do better.

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Posted: 24 May 2011 at 12:43pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by return_to_hades

Considering that this was a 'team' contest, I think it is fair to say Jalwa won. They won in the finale, and their cumulative totals are also higher. I don't have a preference for either season, there are good dancers in both. But I guess season one invokes more nostalgia that tends to sway me a bit.

Either way on paper I think Josh appears stronger than Jalwa. I personally felt Jalwa had some weaker links. Also overall I felt Josh had more versatility, while Jalwa had dancers who are really mind blowing in some niches. At least thats how I perceive the teams, and I think if you study the scores Josh significantly beats Jalwa in the "individual" scores.

However, Jalwa completely trumps Josh in all "team" based categories, group, duo and trio. I think it is fair to say that Jalwa while being weaker on paper had the better "team functionality" and deserved to win. As a team I think they learned how to play their strengths and weaknesses well.

To give Dharmesh his due credit, even though he is constantly elevated to a larger than life presence - he knows to keep his ground. Even the best of people would have tried to make it all about themselves, but he still comes of as a team player. I think his long time experience teaching and in troupes gives him that sense of team effort.

Josh's weakness is in their "star" dancer. When you have a larger group of accomplished, versatile dancer that "team consensus" becomes hard to come by. Its harder to know whom to elevate, where and when. Josh also definitely suffered from the "egos" of their dancers. I definitely don't think they are bad people or are completely in the wrong, nor does it anyway diminish their dancing abilities. I think they are just too exceptionally type A about dance. Whether its their struggles, whether its their passion or whatever - there is a fragility to their sensitivities that manifests as misplaced arrogance. If you have one extreme personality, its not that hard to handle - but throw too many together you have a problem.

You see this happen a lot in sports. A coach puts together a "Dream Team" but it completely backfires because its a team of good players, theres very few happy to slip into second fiddle, be the supporting role, theres no one who feels its Ok not to shine. Thats a difference between team and individual sports. The fastest runner is not always on the relay team, the top seed tennis player is not playing doubles.

I think Jalwa is a clear winner in this team contest due to their ability to come together as a team. They knew their strengths and weaknesses and played to it. Had it been a more individual competition the results perhaps could have been different, I think the individuals in Josh have an edge to go farther ahead. Perhaps is the key operative though, we won't know for sure unless we actually have a Top Chef Masters style face off for DID as well down the line. But looking at their core competencies, I'm pretty sure that Josh might have more individuals who do better.
 
Tongue Agree with some of your points...However comparing Josh to "dream team" is totally erroneous...and here's why...Dream Team consists of people who are amongst the best at what they do in their field...No contestant is amongst the best at what he/she does in the field of dance...I mean come on...Are we to believe that Jai, Siddhesh, Prince, etc are amongst the best dancers in all of India? Tongue Really? None of them have won any seasons of DID...I mean they weren't even the best in their seasons of DID let alone being the best dancers in India...Big smile What makes them the best? the opinions of their fans? well in that instance every single contestant can be considered the best dancer in the world because their fans say so...Tongue What makes Jai, Siddhehs, Prince etc the dream team of dance? None of them have won any dance contest in years...what makes them the best? Tongue And your point about attitude, well that applies to stars because they have something to offset that attitude, unmatched talent...what do contestant have in reality shows to warrant attitudes? Any of them can be replaced by someone just as talented if not more talented then they are...Tongue Attitude normally follows success, doesn't precede it...Tongue
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Posted: 24 May 2011 at 1:31pm | IP Logged
^^ still havent left huh
ankit, u amaze me by ur "gifted" posts
 
1) u hate jai
2) u say ur gonna leave, but dont
3) u dont wanna use "abusive language" (its not abusive, its intrusive, thats all)
4) u dont like muffins?!
 
 
oh wait, i posted a cheesecake, same thing though
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