Originally posted by JanakiRaghunath
I guess that all depends on which source one believes. I believe we can still learn a lot from a God's avatar who proclaims himself to be God, because the discources he gives and the rules he lays out to us are what we should follow. And even when God brings himself down to a common man's level, he is still pretty much perfect because he does not make the same mistakes a common man does or display the same feelings like unrighteous anger, jealousy, pride, etc. Even Shri Krishna was pretty much an ideal man (like Shri Ram was) for Dwapar Yuga's standards, because he was not like the common man. And for me, it's easier to emulate a Godly person than a faulted person, because I don't find it necessary to relate to God's avatars as I do other human beings. Ideal human beings are meant to teach humanity how to live, and if we consider them faulted simply for being humans, what is there to learn from them? That's why I believe even Shri Ram knew he was God. Only thing is, unlike Krishna, he never proclaimed himself to be God so that humanity believed him to be an ordinary man like them...just an ideal one.
It all depends on which source one goes by and his/her interpretation of them.
Yeah you are right. Perhaps it depends from person to person.
But Ram Avatar was in no way perfect. It was very much Human. Ram cried, Ram got angry, got emotional, he was defeated and fainted in battles, he was captured and he displayed limited knowledge and sought others help etc. And I think RS Ramayan portrayed all this very beautifully and without any hesitation.
In case of Krishna, RS tried to show Him more as Vishnu than Krishna. May be because they followed Bhagwad Puran instead of Mahabharat. Its true that Krishna displayed more Godly character than Ram, but He never actually declared Himself as God before public in Mahabharat. But the thing is if God gives us a discourse in his Primeval form, we'll obey it - some out of devotion, others out of fear. But no one will actually learn
anything from Him. You can learn something only with practical examples and reasoned criticism. Can you question God the way Arjun questioned Krishna in the battlefield? Krishna implored Arjun to be a Karma Yogi and a Karma Yogi is not a follower, he's an explorer. I don't think a devotee can bother to explore or weigh the truthfulness of God's words. He will follow his God without questioning Him. But Arjun never did that. He kept on questioning and countering Krishna's discourses till he was completely satisfied. It was only after that Krishna revealed His divinity before Arjun.
Otherwise I think the concept of Avatar itself is meaningless. Vishnu can just appear in His original Four Armed form, kill the Adharmis in a second and return to Vaikuntha. But he doesn't do that - he takes human form, behaves like an ordinary human so that others can actually 'learn' something from his practical example. So I think that serial makers should minimize the Godly traits if edutairnment is their motive.
But I also think that there is lot to learn from flawed Human beings as well. Being a Harry Potter fan how can you say that there's nothing to learn from such people?
In fact I think that if we wish to learn, there's lot to learn even from the insects.
Edited by Darklord_Rehan - 10 May 2011 at 11:12am