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Posted: 26 March 2011 at 3:54pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by jhum_86

Originally posted by rinku4u

hii dear .... yes CGM's wife's name was  Helen rather one of the wives .. Smile & i think lovestory was famous of " helen of troy" not this helen Smile I am sorry if i am wrong Smile. but i think it isBig smile


is this helen(may be daughter of selukas) was the mother of bindusar???i dont think so.....coz this marriage happened the last period of cgm's rule....can u give me info abt it??


yes..i had read their story some years back it was among the famous love stories around the world....the name of the book was something like that.

btw. i don't remmeber i guess will hunt out the book. and let you in short . when i read it i too was surprised.


P.S- DID you know even hitler had a love story.



Edited by shinningstar - 26 March 2011 at 4:23pm

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Posted: 26 March 2011 at 10:19pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by shinningstar

Originally posted by jhum_86

Originally posted by rinku4u

hii dear .... yes CGM's wife's name was  Helen rather one of the wives .. Smile & i think lovestory was famous of " helen of troy" not this helen Smile I am sorry if i am wrong Smile. but i think it isBig smile


is this helen(may be daughter of selukas) was the mother of bindusar???i dont think so.....coz this marriage happened the last period of cgm's rule....can u give me info abt it??


yes..i had read their story some years back it was among the famous love stories around the world....the name of the book was something like that.

btw. i don't remmeber i guess will hunt out the book. and let you in short . when i read it i too was surprised.


P.S- DID you know even hitler had a love story.



yes Hitler too ahd a love story.....his Girlfrnd was Eva Brown who attempted suicide with Hitlet when they were hiding them !!! even Nepoleon too had a love story !!!!Smile

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Posted: 26 March 2011 at 10:22pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by Sinha18

Originally posted by jhum_86


i am not blaming anyone or not want to rise any controversial racial debate but its true bengal's history always has been neglected by history writers rather than any other part of india....otherwise harshvardhan never could beat shashanka of bengal...but there is a very few evidence of shashanka's bravery...he is tragic hero of history neglected and condemned by all the literary sources

I too respect bengalli's warriors ( i m from Rajasthan) and they contributed a lot in our independence too , the Arm revolution which was first started by bengalii revolutionaries with the name  Jugantar party and who can forget Bagha Jatin and revolutionaries like Surya sen, lives of these bengalii revolutionaries inspired a lot and thereby give rise of the great martyr Shri Chandrashekhar Azad and Bhagat Singh , they led the revolution in North India with the help of Bengalii revolutionaries even their party HSRA was started by them.

So Bengalii people always give a lot of contribution with their courage , there was a time when bengalii people were recognized as born patriots.....but it is true history did not give the much deserved recognition to their great contribution, don't know whyConfused



Guys i know that Bengalis are neglected not only in History but in almost every field...Anyway what i am trying to say....is Shashank that innocent???She eloped Rajyasree without her consent which is against rule...so its inevitable that harshavardhan will attack on him to save his sister !!!!! i guess he is not so tragic hero...may be i am wrong....i have very less knowledge about history ....anyone of you can tell me about the real story i guess...

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Posted: 26 March 2011 at 11:41pm | IP Logged
Originally posted by shinningstar

Originally posted by jhum_86

Originally posted by rinku4u

hii dear .... yes CGM's wife's name was  Helen rather one of the wives .. Smile & i think lovestory was famous of " helen of troy" not this helen Smile I am sorry if i am wrong Smile. but i think it isBig smile


is this helen(may be daughter of selukas) was the mother of bindusar???i dont think so.....coz this marriage happened the last period of cgm's rule....can u give me info abt it??


yes..i had read their story some years back it was among the famous love stories around the world....the name of the book was something like that.

btw. i don't remmeber i guess will hunt out the book. and let you in short . when i read it i too was surprised.


P.S- DID you know even hitler had a love story.



Smile
yes ... i guess She was His cousin ... name may be Eva
Smile

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Posted: 27 March 2011 at 2:14am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Ankita_88



Guys i know that Bengalis are neglected not only in History but in almost every field...Anyway what i am trying to say....is Shashank that innocent???She eloped Rajyasree without her consent which is against rule...so its inevitable that harshavardhan will attack on him to save his sister !!!!! i guess he is not so tragic hero...may be i am wrong....i have very less knowledge about history ....anyone of you can tell me about the real story i guess...

 I too don't know but one thing i am sure that Harshvardhan was a very very noble character , he was a true patriot and he never did any wrong deed in his life as he has devoted himself completely to the nation , and he punished shashanka for his wrong doings

This is what i found in wikipedia:

 Sasanka, king of Gauda in Eastern Bengal, entered Magadha as a friend of Rajyavardhana, but in secret alliance with the Malwa king. Accordingly, Sasanka treacherously murdered Rajyavardhana(Brother of Harshavardhana).... so he  betrayed Rajyawardhan in the name of friendship, ...his character seems like that of Mansingh of Rajasthan who was a great warrior too but betrays Maharana PratapCryCry...........this is what i conclude , i may be wrong

Edited by Sinha18 - 27 March 2011 at 3:33am

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Posted: 27 March 2011 at 2:19am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Ankita_88



Guys i know that Bengalis are neglected not only in History but in almost every field...Anyway what i am trying to say....is Shashank that innocent???She eloped Rajyasree without her consent which is against rule...so its inevitable that harshavardhan will attack on him to save his sister !!!!! i guess he is not so tragic hero...may be i am wrong....i have very less knowledge about history ....anyone of you can tell me about the real story i guess...

@pink:

But one thing is true that they rule the world of literature and they will rule forever in future
too......Art and literature is in their blood Smile


Edited by Sinha18 - 27 March 2011 at 3:32am

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Posted: 27 March 2011 at 4:16am | IP Logged
Originally posted by Sinha18

Originally posted by Ankita_88



Guys i know that Bengalis are neglected not only in History but in almost every field...Anyway what i am trying to say....is Shashank that innocent???She eloped Rajyasree without her consent which is against rule...so its inevitable that harshavardhan will attack on him to save his sister !!!!! i guess he is not so tragic hero...may be i am wrong....i have very less knowledge about history ....anyone of you can tell me about the real story i guess...

 I too don't know but one thing i am sure that Harshvardhan was a very very noble character , he was a true patriot and he never did any wrong deed in his life as he has devoted himself completely to the nation , and he punished shashanka for his wrong doings

This is what i found in wikipedia:

 Sasanka, king of Gauda in Eastern Bengal, entered Magadha as a friend of Rajyavardhana, but in secret alliance with the Malwa king. Accordingly, Sasanka treacherously murdered Rajyavardhana(Brother of Harshavardhana).... so he  betrayed Rajyawardhan in the name of friendship, ...his character seems like that of Mansingh of Rajasthan who was a great warrior too but betrays Maharana PratapCryCry...........this is what i conclude , i may be wrong


i never said shashanka was innocent and harshwardhan was wrong....yes harshwardhan's brother rajyawardhan was killed by shashanka but it was not betrayal..rajyavardhan did suicide to keep some promise in the presence of shashanka ..friends i am not saying you people are wrong but what people mostly knows abt shashanka is from banbhatta's harshcharit so banbhatta had to be bioused.as he was a poet from harsha's court ..and shashanka never eloped rajyasree..rajyasree's husband was killed by malwa king debbarma when shashanka was way to kanauj...debbarma imprisoned rajyasree....after debbarma's murder in hand of rajyabardhan shashanka freed rajyasree..he didn't have any wrong intention for her..rajyasree left kanauj as she considered shashanka murderer of her husband grahabarman..harsha found rajyasree from bindhyachal....far from shashanka's kingdom..that proves shashanka didn't elope her..harsha attacked shashanka to get revenge of rajyabardhan's death as shashanka was truely responsible for that.and shashanka had to retreat from kanauj .but friends there is no evidence of harsha defeating shashanka...harsha couldn't enter into bengal before shashanka's death...so there is no question of shashanka being punished by harsha..friends history never tells any black and white story..both shashanka and harsh wanted toget control all over north india and they were competitor to each other...harsha was a noble king that doesn't mean shashanka was mean..so friends don't be bious...history has always misinterpreted shashanka..and his bravery was neglected...i have read many books on him..and i know how wrongly he was condemned by his contemporary writer banbhatta and huen sung CryCry..he was not totally innocent but yes he was a tragic hero...he gave an identity to bengal..but bengali forgot him



Edited by jhum_86 - 27 March 2011 at 4:31am

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Posted: 27 March 2011 at 6:01am | IP Logged
Originally posted by jhum_86



i never said shashanka was innocent and harshwardhan was wrong....yes harshwardhan's brother rajyawardhan was killed by shashanka but it was not betrayal..rajyavardhan did suicide to keep some promise in the presence of shashanka ..friends i am not saying you people are wrong but what people mostly knows abt shashanka is from banbhatta's harshcharit so banbhatta had to be bioused.as he was a poet from harsha's court ..and shashanka never eloped rajyasree..rajyasree's husband was killed by malwa king debbarma when shashanka was way to kanauj...debbarma imprisoned rajyasree....after debbarma's murder in hand of rajyabardhan shashanka freed rajyasree..he didn't have any wrong intention for her..rajyasree left kanauj as she considered shashanka murderer of her husband grahabarman..harsha found rajyasree from bindhyachal....far from shashanka's kingdom..that proves shashanka didn't elope her..harsha attacked shashanka to get revenge of rajyabardhan's death as shashanka was truely responsible for that.and shashanka had to retreat from kanauj .but friends there is no evidence of harsha defeating shashanka...harsha couldn't enter into bengal before shashanka's death...so there is no question of shashanka being punished by harsha..friends history never tells any black and white story..both shashanka and harsh wanted toget control all over north india and they were competitor to each other...harsha was a noble king that doesn't mean shashanka was mean..so friends don't be bious...history has always misinterpreted shashanka..and his bravery was neglected...i have read many books on him..and i know how wrongly he was condemned by his contemporary writer banbhatta and huen sung CryCry..he was not totally innocent but yes he was a tragic hero...he gave an identity to bengal..but bengali forgot him



Thanks for the info dear , i was unaware of the true fact because even in schools books are misguiding the students , so now from where one can get knowledge CryCry thanks to internet through which we can connected by people from all over the world and thereby we can get to know about the truth as it happened today with meSmile

Thank you very very much, it will really enrich my knowledge Smile and it is very sad that even today true facts are hidden and people like me are misguided by syllabus books which i read in school time and wikipedia Confused.....so now i got a glimpse of truth about great shashankSmile


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